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Short Wave Sportfishing

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:06 am
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had my brand new F-150 Lariat Special Edition towed back from
Greenville RI to the dealer in Webster, MA because...

The brakes failed - as in F A I L E D - causing me to avoid a massive
collision by jumping a curb and heading into the pucker brush.

Then, to add insult to injury, when I restarted the engine after it
stalled out, a horrendous noise and oil smoke started to pour out from
under the hood. Brand new engine to boot.

In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. This is the sixth
major failure in 20 thousand miles.

No, I'm not buying a Toyota so don't even suggest it.

I am looking at GMC though.

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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:06:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
<email.RemoveThis@swsports.org> wrote:

>had my brand new F-150 Lariat Special Edition towed back from
>Greenville RI to the dealer in Webster, MA because...
>
>The brakes failed - as in F A I L E D - causing me to avoid a massive
>collision by jumping a curb and heading into the pucker brush.
>
>Then, to add insult to injury, when I restarted the engine after it
>stalled out, a horrendous noise and oil smoke started to pour out from
>under the hood. Brand new engine to boot.
>
>In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. This is the sixth
>major failure in 20 thousand miles.
>
>No, I'm not buying a Toyota so don't even suggest it.
>
>I am looking at GMC though.

I liked mine and have already told the nephew I've got first dibs when he
gets ready to sell or trade it. He agrees.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:06 am
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email RemoveThis @swsports.org> wrote in message
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> had my brand new F-150 Lariat Special Edition towed back from
> Greenville RI to the dealer in Webster, MA because...
>
> The brakes failed - as in F A I L E D - causing me to avoid a massive
> collision by jumping a curb and heading into the pucker brush.
>
> Then, to add insult to injury, when I restarted the engine after it
> stalled out, a horrendous noise and oil smoke started to pour out from
> under the hood. Brand new engine to boot.
>
> In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. This is the sixth
> major failure in 20 thousand miles.

Sounds like operator error to me.

Ever consider a bicycle? Wink
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:06 am
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On Dec 27, 4:06�pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em....DeleteThis@swsports.org>
wrote:
> had my brand new F-150 Lariat Special Edition towed back from
> Greenville RI to the dealer in Webster, MA because...
>
> The brakes failed - as in F A I L E D - causing me to avoid a massive
> collision by jumping a curb and heading into the pucker brush.
>
> Then, to add insult to injury, when I restarted the engine after it
> stalled out, a horrendous noise and oil smoke started to pour out from
> under the hood. �Brand new engine to boot.
>
> In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. �This is the sixth
> major failure in 20 thousand miles.
>
> No, I'm not buying a Toyota so don't even suggest it.
>
> I am looking at GMC though.

How to pick your next truck, (boat, car, RV, etc).

Visit the dealership, but *don't* head into the showroom. Instead, go
around back and see what's going on in the repair shop. Odds are that
regardless of brand name, you'll find one or two major engine
overhauls in progress, some tranny work, and no need to mention
brakes, steering, ignition tunes, emissions work etc. The owners of
the vehicles undergoing the most total and complete repairs will be
quick to tell you that their Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Toyota, or what-not
is a giant POS (!).
So, begin by identifying the brand that doesn't require any repairs
after sale.

Should you be unsuccessful in finding any brand of vehicle or vessel
that is exempt from breakdown and repair, then it's down to choosing
the one you like the most and figuring out how to get a good deal. Smile
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email.RemoveThis@swsports.org> wrote in message
news:09f8n354tm1npk6fgmg1qfn5m41fi43nsm@4ax.com...
> had my brand new F-150 Lariat Special Edition towed back from
> Greenville RI to the dealer in Webster, MA because...
>
> The brakes failed - as in F A I L E D - causing me to avoid a massive
> collision by jumping a curb and heading into the pucker brush.
>
> Then, to add insult to injury, when I restarted the engine after it
> stalled out, a horrendous noise and oil smoke started to pour out from
> under the hood. Brand new engine to boot.
>
> In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. This is the sixth
> major failure in 20 thousand miles.
>
> No, I'm not buying a Toyota so don't even suggest it.
>
> I am looking at GMC though.

*Courtesy of Consumer Reports...*
Ratings Full-sized pickups

The Ratings rank vehicles on how well they scored in our tests,
regardless of price or reliability. Recommended models () tested well, have
shown average or better reliability, and performed adequately if
crash-tested or included in a government rollover test.


indicates Quick Pick.
Excellent Very good Good Fair Poor


Quick Picks Make & model In this issue Overall road-test score Price
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73. $46,560 new
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. 69. 34,738
Chevrolet Silverado 1500 LT2 (5.3)
. 65. 37,235 new
Nissan Titan SE (5.6)
62. 36,520
Ford F-150 XLT (5.4)
. 52. 36,705
Dodge Ram 1500 SLT (5.7)
. 48. 38,370
HEAVY-DUTY DIESEL PICKUPS

Chevrolet Silverado 2500 LTZ (6.6)
. 57. 50,149 new
Dodge Ram 2500 Laramie (6.7)
. 38. 50,070
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:06 am
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Get a Dodge Ram... you won't be sorry.

--Mike

"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email RemoveThis @swsports.org> wrote in message
news:09f8n354tm1npk6fgmg1qfn5m41fi43nsm@4ax.com...
> had my brand new F-150 Lariat Special Edition towed back from
> Greenville RI to the dealer in Webster, MA because...
>
> The brakes failed - as in F A I L E D - causing me to avoid a massive
> collision by jumping a curb and heading into the pucker brush.
>
> Then, to add insult to injury, when I restarted the engine after it
> stalled out, a horrendous noise and oil smoke started to pour out from
> under the hood. Brand new engine to boot.
>
> In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. This is the sixth
> major failure in 20 thousand miles.
>
> No, I'm not buying a Toyota so don't even suggest it.
>
> I am looking at GMC though.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:06 am
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On Dec 27, 7:06 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em... DeleteThis @swsports.org>
wrote:
> had my brand new F-150 Lariat Special Edition towed back from
> Greenville RI to the dealer in Webster, MA because...
>
> The brakes failed - as in F A I L E D - causing me to avoid a massive
> collision by jumping a curb and heading into the pucker brush.
>
> Then, to add insult to injury, when I restarted the engine after it
> stalled out, a horrendous noise and oil smoke started to pour out from
> under the hood.  Brand new engine to boot.
>
> In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t.  This is the sixth
> major failure in 20 thousand miles.
>
> No, I'm not buying a Toyota so don't even suggest it.
>
> I am looking at GMC though.

I load cars for a living on trucks, and we've had 1 Expedition almost
go off over the front due to brake failure.
Something is going wrong with the Ford brakes. I, personally have had
the brakes feel REAL spongy in the Fords, and almost lost one myself.
We have to make sure the dam things work before we can load em'
now.Fords DO have the best frames...IMO
GMCs have the flimsiest frames I've ever seen. Stronach makes em right
here in the town Im in, and they (Stronach) also own the Temp Service
that staffs the plant. Talk about the rich "double-dipping". I have
distorted the tie-down holes on several units just from cranking the
chain tight.
Wanna know whats good and bad...ask me. We dont haul them all (the
real high end stuff) but handle all the domestics.You should see the
shitty undercoating jobs on the YJ Jeeps. I'd never buy one.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:06 am
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email.TakeThisOut@swsports.org> wrote in message
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> had my brand new F-150 Lariat Special Edition towed back from
> Greenville RI to the dealer in Webster, MA because...
>
> The brakes failed - as in F A I L E D - causing me to avoid a massive
> collision by jumping a curb and heading into the pucker brush.
>
> Then, to add insult to injury, when I restarted the engine after it
> stalled out, a horrendous noise and oil smoke started to pour out from
> under the hood. Brand new engine to boot.
>
> In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. This is the sixth
> major failure in 20 thousand miles.
>


That sucks big time. Ford owes you a brand new truck or a full refund ....
your choice.

Eisboch
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:06 am
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote
> The brakes failed - as in F A I L E D - causing me to avoid a massive
> collision by jumping a curb and heading into the pucker brush.
>
> Then, to add insult to injury, when I restarted the engine after it
> stalled out, a horrendous noise and oil smoke started to pour out from
> under the hood.

Some sort of fault in the vacuum operated brake-booster?
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
> had my brand new F-150 Lariat Special Edition towed back from
> Greenville RI to the dealer in Webster, MA because...
>
> The brakes failed - as in F A I L E D - causing me to avoid a massive
> collision by jumping a curb and heading into the pucker brush.
>
> Then, to add insult to injury, when I restarted the engine after it
> stalled out, a horrendous noise and oil smoke started to pour out from
> under the hood. Brand new engine to boot.
>
> In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. This is the sixth
> major failure in 20 thousand miles.
>
> No, I'm not buying a Toyota so don't even suggest it.
>
> I am looking at GMC though.

I just got finished taking the 2001 F-150 SuperCrew 5.4L V8 on a 1200
mile round trip to Louisville, KY. Up the mountains, down the mountains,
in the vallies and on the plains. Not a grunt, groan or screech from the
trusty old engine or the rest of the vehicle.
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:06:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
<email.RemoveThis@swsports.org> wrote:

>In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. This is the sixth
>major failure in 20 thousand miles.
>
>No, I'm not buying a Toyota so don't even suggest it.

Who me?

Frankly I think you'd like it after you got one. Just my 2 cents
worth.
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JimH wrote:
> "Short Wave Sportfishing" <email RemoveThis @swsports.org> wrote in message
> news:09f8n354tm1npk6fgmg1qfn5m41fi43nsm@4ax.com...
>> had my brand new F-150 Lariat Special Edition towed back from
>> Greenville RI to the dealer in Webster, MA because...
>>
>> The brakes failed - as in F A I L E D - causing me to avoid a massive
>> collision by jumping a curb and heading into the pucker brush.
>>
>> Then, to add insult to injury, when I restarted the engine after it
>> stalled out, a horrendous noise and oil smoke started to pour out from
>> under the hood. Brand new engine to boot.
>>
>> In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. This is the sixth
>> major failure in 20 thousand miles.
>
> Sounds like operator error to me.
>
> Ever consider a bicycle? Wink
>
>
That requires balance.
Tricycle...

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> How long have you been here *Sunk*?

Long enough to see you're an ignorant cunt.
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Eisboch wrote:
> "Short Wave Sportfishing" <email.DeleteThis@swsports.org> wrote in message
> news:09f8n354tm1npk6fgmg1qfn5m41fi43nsm@4ax.com...
>
>> had my brand new F-150 Lariat Special Edition towed back from
>> Greenville RI to the dealer in Webster, MA because...
>>
>> The brakes failed - as in F A I L E D - causing me to avoid a massive
>> collision by jumping a curb and heading into the pucker brush.
>>
>> Then, to add insult to injury, when I restarted the engine after it
>> stalled out, a horrendous noise and oil smoke started to pour out from
>> under the hood. Brand new engine to boot.
>>
>> In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. This is the sixth
>> major failure in 20 thousand miles.
>>
>
>
> That sucks big time. Ford owes you a brand new truck or a full refund ....
> your choice.
>
> Eisboch
>
>
>

I would definitely check the lemon laws in your state.
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"Don White" <whited.DeleteThis@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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>
> "Short Wave Sportfishing" <email.DeleteThis@swsports.org> wrote in message
> news:09f8n354tm1npk6fgmg1qfn5m41fi43nsm@4ax.com...
>> had my brand new F-150 Lariat Special Edition towed back from
>> Greenville RI to the dealer in Webster, MA because...
>>
>> The brakes failed - as in F A I L E D - causing me to avoid a massive
>> collision by jumping a curb and heading into the pucker brush.
>>
>> Then, to add insult to injury, when I restarted the engine after it
>> stalled out, a horrendous noise and oil smoke started to pour out from
>> under the hood. Brand new engine to boot.
>>
>> In a nut shell, this truck is a piece of s##t. This is the sixth
>> major failure in 20 thousand miles.
>>
>> No, I'm not buying a Toyota so don't even suggest it.
>>
>> I am looking at GMC though.
>
> *Courtesy of Consumer Reports...*
> Ratings Full-sized pickups
>
> The Ratings rank vehicles on how well they scored in our tests,
> regardless of price or reliability. Recommended models () tested well,
> have shown average or better reliability, and performed adequately if
> crash-tested or included in a government rollover test.
>
>
> indicates Quick Pick.
> Excellent Very good Good Fair Poor
>
>
> Quick Picks Make & model In this issue Overall road-test score
> Price as tested Predicted reliability
>
>
>
> FULL-SIZED CREW-CAB PICKUPS
>

What the $%$^%..
This chart looked good when I sent it.
Bottom line... the Tundra scored very well.
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