tarp repair glue?

Nope.

"Gregg Germain" wrote in message

 > Hi all!
 >
 > Is there a glue that will work on polyethylene tarp material? Often
 > I'd like to make patches to secure rips so that they don't get larger,
 > but no glue I've tried seems to "melt" the tarp material to
 > form a good bond.
 >
 > Is there a glue that will work?
 >
 > thanks!
 >
 > --- Gregg
 > "Improvise, adapt, overcome."

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Many years I experimented with junk sails made from polytarp, the blue
stuff, and contact cement worked fine.

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"Gregg Germain" wrote in message

 > Hi all!
 >
 > Is there a glue that will work on polyethylene tarp material? Often
 > I'd like to make patches to secure rips so that they don't get larger,
 > but no glue I've tried seems to "melt" the tarp material to
 > form a good bond.
 >
 > Is there a glue that will work?
 >
 > thanks!
 >
 > --- Gregg
 > "Improvise, adapt, overcome."

 > Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
 > Phone: (617) 496-1558
 >
 >> Stay informed about: tarp repair glue? 

Jacques Mertens wrote:
: Many years I experimented with junk sails made from polytarp, the blue
: stuff, and contact cement worked fine.

Hi Jacques!

Contact cement - good idea. I'll give it a try.

thanks



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"Jacques Mertens" (jojo@aol.com) writes:
 > Many years I experimented with junk sails made from polytarp, the blue
 > stuff, and contact cement worked fine.

"contact" cement is also called "rubber" cement

people who make polytarp sails also bond by heating with a hot iron.
never tried it myself.

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NO, contact cement is NOT rubber cement. Contact adhesive is contact
adhesive.

In article , William R. Watt wrote:

  >> Many years I experimented with junk sails made from polytarp, the blue
  >> stuff, and contact cement worked fine.
 >
 > "contact" cement is also called "rubber" cement
 >
 > people who make polytarp sails also bond by heating with a hot iron.
 > never tried it myself.
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.... and will pull apart with very little stress. Polyethylene is notorious
for having a surface that nothing will stick to. You can heat weld it, but
it's beyond most non-commercial applications. It takes specific heat,
pressure and dwell times, done either by bar sealers or "doughboy"
continuous band sealers. You can try any glue you want, but I can tell you
from years in R&D in the plastics industry, there is nothing that will work
well with PE. Best bet are those tapes mentioned earlier, used on both
sides. Duct tape will for for a few weeks, but weather and UV will tear it
up pretty fast. Really... those blue poly tarps cost what... $5-15? Replace
it if it's gone!


"Dave Cannell" wrote in message

 > NO, contact cement is NOT rubber cement. Contact adhesive is contact
 > adhesive.
 >


   > >> Many years I experimented with junk sails made from polytarp, the blue
   > >> stuff, and contact cement worked fine.
  > >
  > > "contact" cement is also called "rubber" cement
  > >
  > > people who make polytarp sails also bond by heating with a hot iron.
  > > never tried it myself.
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Gregg Germain wrote:

 >Hi all!
 >
 >Is there a glue that will work on polyethylene tarp material? Often
 >I'd like to make patches to secure rips so that they don't get larger,
 >but no glue I've tried seems to "melt" the tarp material to
 >form a good bond.
 >
 > Is there a glue that will work?
 >
 >
Nothing that's not a lot more expensive than the tarp. However, there's
always duct tape.

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I can't remember the brand name. That happened in Haiti 25 years ago and I
used some german contact cement that I had on the boat.
It worked relatively well but I remember that we had to press the glue line
down under a 2x4 then hit with a hammer . . . all fine sailmaking skills . .
..


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"Keith" wrote in message

 > ... and will pull apart with very little stress. Polyethylene is notorious
 > for having a surface that nothing will stick to. You can heat weld it, but
 > it's beyond most non-commercial applications. It takes specific heat,
 > pressure and dwell times, done either by bar sealers or "doughboy"
 > continuous band sealers. You can try any glue you want, but I can tell you
 > from years in R&D in the plastics industry, there is nothing that will
work
 > well with PE. Best bet are those tapes mentioned earlier, used on both
 > sides. Duct tape will for for a few weeks, but weather and UV will tear it
 > up pretty fast. Really... those blue poly tarps cost what... $5-15?
Replace
 > it if it's gone!
 >
 >


  > > NO, contact cement is NOT rubber cement. Contact adhesive is contact
  > > adhesive.
  > >


   > > >> Many years I experimented with junk sails made from polytarp, the
blue
   > > >> stuff, and contact cement worked fine.
   > > >
   > > > "contact" cement is also called "rubber" cement
   > > >
   > > > people who make polytarp sails also bond by heating with a hot iron.
   > > > never tried it myself.
   > > >
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double sided carpet tape is also used in making cheap tyvek and polytarp
sails. I haven't used it myself but from what I've read on the Internet
its reinforced with glass fibre and is very strong. It might be ideal for
applying patches where tape alone won't do.

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Well no need to worry about repairing rips inthe tarp - this weekend's
Nor'easter took car of the cover.

So now I have to get more plastic. There's the Greenhouse film, but
that seem slimited to 6 mil. I was wondering if there was another
source of clear poly plastic that's thicker than 6 mil.

Jamestown also sells clear ploy with a weave in it to resist tears. I
might try that.



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Black will last a lot longer, if the heat isn't a problem. That clear woven
stuff will be OK for a few months, but will still degrade in the sunlight.

"Gregg Germain" wrote in message

 > Well no need to worry about repairing rips inthe tarp - this weekend's
 > Nor'easter took car of the cover.
 >
 > So now I have to get more plastic. There's the Greenhouse film, but
 > that seem slimited to 6 mil. I was wondering if there was another
 > source of clear poly plastic that's thicker than 6 mil.
 >
 > Jamestown also sells clear ploy with a weave in it to resist tears. I
 > might try that.
 >
 >
 >
 > --
 >
 >
 > --- Gregg
 > "Improvise, adapt, overcome."

 > Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
 > Phone: (617) 496-1558
 >
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Keith wrote:
: Black will last a lot longer, if the heat isn't a problem.

Black isn't optimal because it doesn't let the light in. Makes the
interior of the boat shelter very dark even on the sunniest of
days. And that's year around.

In the summer, the black tarp would make it unbearably hot.


 >That clear woven
: stuff will be OK for a few months, but will still degrade in the
sunlight.

I manage to extend it's lifetime by putting a white tarp over the
clear in teh summer. This wards off UV degradation and also reflects
sunlight enough to keep the interior of the shelter much cooler than
in sunlight.

In winter the clear plastic is exposed to the sun - what little we
get of it. And the angle of the rays of the sun is much less in the
winter.

I've had clear, non-UV protected, poly last several years - so long as
snow loads don't destroy it.



: "Gregg Germain" wrote in message
:
:> Well no need to worry about repairing rips inthe tarp - this weekend's
:> Nor'easter took car of the cover.
:>
:> So now I have to get more plastic. There's the Greenhouse film, but
:> that seem slimited to 6 mil. I was wondering if there was another
:> source of clear poly plastic that's thicker than 6 mil.
:>
:> Jamestown also sells clear ploy with a weave in it to resist tears. I
:> might try that.
:>
:>
:>
:> --
:>
:>
:> --- Gregg
:> "Improvise, adapt, overcome."
:> gregg RemoveThis @head-cfa.harvard.edu
:> Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
:> Phone: (617) 496-1558
:>



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On 9 Dec 2003 11:00:35 -0400, Gregg Germain
wrote something
.......and in reply I say!:


Being in a decimal country, the idea of 6 mil tarsp had me going for a
second or two <G>

 > So now I have to get more plastic. There's the Greenhouse film, but
 > that seem slimited to 6 mil. I was wondering if there was another
 > source of clear poly plastic that's thicker than 6 mil.

 >Jamestown also sells clear ploy with a weave in it to resist tears. I
 >might try that.

Wasn't it _Jones_town that sold a ploy?
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