See you all in the spring....

With Christmas Season and all it's hard to get excited about shootin' &
killin'
Maybe a little later on when cabin fever sets in.
Here you have to wear 'hunter orange' so the other gun nuts have a better
target.


Butch Ammon <ammonc.TakeThisOut@aol.com123> wrote in message
news:20031211151420.12223.00000755@mb-m05.aol.com...
 > Well, I have been lurking in the shadows for some time now and see the
group is
 > still fighting amongst the ranks. I wanted to wish you all a Merry
Christmas
 > and I'll be back on here in the spring.
 >
 > FWIW... since my boat is wrapped up and winterized, I have been enjoying
my
 > free time going hunting. A few members of this group (you know who you
are)
 > could use a good dose of the outdoors. Get yourself some camoflage, grab
a
 > lever-action 30-30 rifle, or 12GA shotgun, and head out into the woods or
the
 > edge of a farmers field. It's a true challenge and is rich in tradition.
 >
 > Butch Ammon<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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 >Off-topic posting is a bit like farting in a house of worship.
 >Only children, the arrogant, or the ignorant, can truly enjoy it.
 >Only the arrogant and the ignorant insist on it.
 >
 >To email me, remove the "OT-" from OT-wrecked.boats.noah.
 >...as you were. )


Bitching and criticizing is pretty easy.

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On 11 Dec 2003 22:16:47 GMT, gould0738.RemoveThis@aol.com (Gould 0738) wrote:

  >>Off-topic posting is a bit like farting in a house of worship.
  >>Only children, the arrogant, or the ignorant, can truly enjoy it.
  >>Only the arrogant and the ignorant insist on it.
  >>
  >>To email me, remove the "OT-" from OT-wrecked.boats.noah.
  >>...as you were. )
 >
 >
 >Bitching and criticizing is pretty easy.
 >
 >How long since you last started an on-topic thread?


Do you see what you're doing Chuck? "Bitching and criticising" about
my signature? I've had a lot of respect for you in the past, but your
"snipe" was unnecessary. My sig is MY opinion, and I stand by it.

This place is operated like a private boys club. A relatively small
number of reg's see it as their personal playground, and to hell with
anyone that is concerned about trivialities such as simple Usenet
etiquette. Those who dare to mention the fact that most of this shit
is totally off-topic are bullied or insulted until they shut up, or go
away. Well, screw that....!

I started an on-topic thread two days ago (see STELLAMARE), and I've
posted to a few more.

What's your beef? Did I hit a nerve?
Regards,
noah

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Off-topic posting is a bit like farting in a house of worship.
Only children, the arrogant, or the ignorant, can truly enjoy it.
Only the arrogant and the ignorant insist on it.

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On 11 Dec 2003 22:16:47 GMT, gould0738 DeleteThis @aol.com (Gould 0738) wrote:

P.S.- To quote every off-topic spammer that ever posted here, "If
you don't like it," (my sig) "...then don't read it."


Regards,
noah

********************
Off-topic posting is a bit like farting in a house of worship.
Only children, the arrogant, or the ignorant, can truly enjoy it.
Only the arrogant and the ignorant insist on it.

To email me, remove the "OT-" from OT-wrecked.boats.noah.
....as you were. )
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 >From: gould0738.DeleteThis@aol.com

 >Bitching and criticizing is pretty easy.
 >
 >How long since you last started an on-topic thread?

Tell me, in the last year just how many ON topic posts have stayed on topic and
have not been hijacked or taken off topic.

Not very many I would guess.

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Gould 0738 wrote:
 >
  > >Off-topic posting is a bit like farting in a house of worship.
  > >Only children, the arrogant, or the ignorant, can truly enjoy it.
  > >Only the arrogant and the ignorant insist on it.
  > >
  > >To email me, remove the "OT-" from OT-wrecked.boats.noah.
  > >...as you were. )
 >
 > Bitching and criticizing is pretty easy.
 >
 > How long since you last started an on-topic thread?



Throw a rock in a pack of dogs. The one that yelps is the one that got hit.

woof woof gould.

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Butch Ammon wrote:
 >
 > Well, I have been lurking in the shadows for some time now and see the group is
 > still fighting amongst the ranks. I wanted to wish you all a Merry Christmas
 > and I'll be back on here in the spring.
 >
 > FWIW... since my boat is wrapped up and winterized, I have been enjoying my
 > free time going hunting. A few members of this group (you know who you are)
 > could use a good dose of the outdoors. Get yourself some camoflage, grab a
 > lever-action 30-30 rifle, or 12GA shotgun, and head out into the woods or the
 > edge of a farmers field. It's a true challenge and is rich in tradition.
 >

Just watch out for those protesters who don't share your view of hunting
as a "rich" tradition. In their eyes, you're an "evil" person......


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 >Just watch out for those protesters who don't share your view of hunting
 >as a "rich" tradition. In their eyes, you're an "evil" person......
 >

I know what you are saying. I dealt with that here at work. One of the ladies
in the admin dept came over to my cubicle one time to talk to me. She saw a
bunch of old Field & Stream magazines on file cabinet, and saw the photo of me
decked out in camoflage, standing in front of a duck boat, holding a pair of
ducks. She darn near wigged out on me: "Is that YOU? Oh my God... I didn't
know you got into that stuff! You don't seem like the type".

"The TYPE"?!?! What "type" is she referring to? Hmmm.... Maybe it's because
I'm a mild mannered white collared computer geek, but on weekends I don the
camoflage and go hunting.

Anyway, take care everyone and have a wonderful Christmas holiday!

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"Butch Ammon" <ammonc RemoveThis @aol.com123> wrote in message
news:20031212102634.15459.00000709@mb-m03.aol.com...
  > >Just watch out for those protesters who don't share your view of hunting
  > >as a "rich" tradition. In their eyes, you're an "evil" person......
  > >
 >
 > I know what you are saying. I dealt with that here at work. One of the
ladies
 > in the admin dept came over to my cubicle one time to talk to me. She saw
a
 > bunch of old Field & Stream magazines on file cabinet, and saw the photo
of me
 > decked out in camoflage, standing in front of a duck boat, holding a pair
of
 > ducks. She darn near wigged out on me: "Is that YOU? Oh my God... I
didn't
 > know you got into that stuff! You don't seem like the type".
 >
 > "The TYPE"?!?! What "type" is she referring to? Hmmm.... Maybe it's
because
 > I'm a mild mannered white collared computer geek, but on weekends I don
the
 > camoflage and go hunting.

Perhaps she is referring to the type that does'nt outsource 'upleasant'
tasks. If she is a meat eater ask her if she believes that the meat she eats
has all died of natural causes. Suggest she take a field trip to a meat
slaughter/processing plant. If she does so she will learn that annimals are
neither willingly nor painlessly transformed to shrink wrapped packages. She
will also learn that most hunted annimals are more humanely killed than the
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 >Perhaps she is referring to the type that does'nt outsource 'upleasant'
 >tasks. If she is a meat eater ask her if she believes that the meat she eats
 >has all died of natural causes. Suggest she take a field trip to a meat
 >slaughter/processing plant. If she does so she will learn that annimals are
 >neither willingly nor painlessly transformed to shrink wrapped packages. She
 >will also learn that most hunted annimals are more humanely killed than the
 >shrink wrapped ones.


I'd rather run free in the forest and take my chances with hunters and
predators than spend my life in a "secure" 16 sq ft cage.

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Nim wrote:


 > She
 > will also learn that most hunted annimals are more humanely killed than the
 > shrink wrapped ones.

Humanely killed? What the hell does that mean in hunting? A couple of
years ago, Arnold, one of our pet cats was dying, with several major
organs giving up the ghost. We medicated him for as long as we could, to
keep him alive, but, in the end, when it was obvious he was suffering,
we held him while the vet put him to sleep. He was humanely killed.

In hunting or fishing, there is no such thing as "humanely" killing your
catch.


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Harry wrote:

 >In hunting or fishing, there is no such thing as "humanely" killing your
 >catch.

If you were a deer, which would you prefer:

1. Dying of starvation or disease as the population grows out of control and
the land can no longer support the herd. This happens quite often when hunting
is severely curtailed.

2. Ending up as a hood ormament on the front of a speeding car. Also a major
problem in some areas where the heards are too large.

3. A quick shot to the heart.

Nature doesn't provide animals or fish with many humane choices for death. Most
don't die of old age like humans.


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F330 GT wrote:

 > Harry wrote:
 >
  >>In hunting or fishing, there is no such thing as "humanely" killing your
  >>catch.
 >
 > If you were a deer, which would you prefer:
 >
 > 1. Dying of starvation or disease as the population grows out of control and
 > the land can no longer support the herd. This happens quite often when hunting
 > is severely curtailed.
 >
 > 2. Ending up as a hood ormament on the front of a speeding car. Also a major
 > problem in some areas where the heards are too large.
 >
 > 3. A quick shot to the heart.
 >
 > Nature doesn't provide animals or fish with many humane choices for death. Most
 > don't die of old age like humans.
 >
 >
 > Barry


If I were a deer, I'd prefer NOT to be shot. Period. There is no such
thing as "humane" hunting or fishing if, in the end, you kill the
critter. I understand how we humans like to use softer language to make
our slaughter of the animals we hunt or fish sound better but killing is
killing is killing.

In most cases, the land can no longer support the critters because we
have encroached upon the land, or have killed off all the "natural"
predators. In other words, if there are too many deer in an area, it
isn't because the deer just copulate all day. It is because we have
destroyed their habitat and the room they used to have for free roam
isn't there anymore.

We have deer wandering through our property all the time, and the
property of our neighbors. We're in a "hunter free" zone, and so far, we
are not overpopulated with deer. Once or twice a month, a deer and a car
have an unfortunate encounter out on the county roads, and the deer
almost always loses. Wish we could establish a "deer crossing" that
really was.

If you want to hunt "humanely," then use a camera.



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