small RIB registering

I'm fairly new to boating type stuff, messed about with inflatable canoes
for a few years, starting with a cheapo one made of recycles supermarket
carrier bags (or so it seemed when we went over a submerged branch) to our
current re-inforced bottom, fabric upper, seperate air chamber design kyak.

But i want to do more exploring without so much physical effort (have a tiny
electric motor for the kyak, but it's so low powered that the slightest
current sends us backwards)

So i'm looking into getting a small RIB, not sure of exact size yet,
something the size people use for tenders, enough room for 2 adults and a
dog.

The outboard i will prolly go for about a 3 or 4 hp motor, we're not
interested in roaring around annoying everyone, we just want enough power to
handle mild currents, and propel us at a leisurley pace,

Now i understand that any motor boat needs to be registered, what's involved
in this, who do you register it with, how much etc,

And is there a nationwide registration thing for 'portable' boats, we have a
motorhome, and will be de-flating the boat for storage, but we alsmot alway
seek out a camping spot near a river, canal or lake, hence why we got the
kyak in the first place.

Or do you need to get some temporary registration thing for each water way
you visit? even if it's only for a couple of hour pootle about to see what's
around the next bend,

I think places like lake windermere, the norfolk borads etc charge a 'toll'
for going on their waters, is that applicable everywhere?

All we want to do is park up near a bit of water, and if the weathers
decent, blow the boat up, attatch the outboard, and go for a little pootle
about.

Now.. to make matters more complicated, we do a lot of traveling around
europe, whats the situation for using an english registered small motor boat
there? france, germany, switzerland and belgium mainly,

On our 2006 euro tour, we were told off by the lake luzern (Switzerland)
water police for using our kyak with it's electric motor on the lake, they
never said we needed to register it or anything like that, just said we
couldent use the motor on that boat on that lake, and paddeling of boats
isnt allowed outside the swimming area!!!

Cheers for any help,

Gazz

Lets stick to the UK.

Each organisation named below has a website for more info.

You do not nee any form of permit or registration simply to own it,but as
soon as you put it on the water some form of license or permit is almost
certainly required. You may also have to provide proof of adequate
insurance and possibly compliance with the Boat Safety Scheme, although it
may not be applicable to small open boats. Requirements vary from place to
place, but are consistent across British Waterways and the Environment
Agency. I would think organisations like the Lake District National Park
Authority would have similar, if not the same, requirements.

I suppose you could put it on the Small Ships Register, but I doubt it would
be worth it just for UK use, The paperwork might help when abroad with
things like VAT paid etc, but I do not know.

Licenses or permits are required for most waters.

Estuaries - probably the local harbourmaster, launching off a beach may
require a fee to the beaches owner or the Local Authority.

Reservoirs (if you are allowed on them) - probably the local water
authority - notices usually posted on site.

Lakes (unless under British Waterways) - the owner or Local authority -
notices should be posted

Most canals and some rivers (Trent, Severn) - A British Waterways license
and they are for periods of up to a year.

Other major rivers (Thames, Gt. Ouse, Nene) - Environments Agency license,.
Issued for individual waterways and for varying periods of up to a year.

The Lake District - I think the National Parks Authority, but I am sure they
will be able to tell you.

Broads - The Broads Authority.

Basingstoke Canal - Again the Basingstoke Canal Authority.

And so it goes on. I fear you will have to do a lot more research about each
area you want to boat in before travelling there to start boating.

--
Tony Brooks
www.TB-Training.co.uk

Maintenance & Electrical training for ordinary boaters








"Gazz" <nosp.DeleteThis@m.ta> wrote in message
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> I'm fairly new to boating type stuff, messed about with inflatable canoes
> for a few years, starting with a cheapo one made of recycles supermarket
> carrier bags (or so it seemed when we went over a submerged branch) to our
> current re-inforced bottom, fabric upper, seperate air chamber design
> kyak.
>
> But i want to do more exploring without so much physical effort (have a
> tiny electric motor for the kyak, but it's so low powered that the
> slightest current sends us backwards)
>
> So i'm looking into getting a small RIB, not sure of exact size yet,
> something the size people use for tenders, enough room for 2 adults and a
> dog.
>
> The outboard i will prolly go for about a 3 or 4 hp motor, we're not
> interested in roaring around annoying everyone, we just want enough power
> to handle mild currents, and propel us at a leisurley pace,
>
> Now i understand that any motor boat needs to be registered, what's
> involved in this, who do you register it with, how much etc,
>
> And is there a nationwide registration thing for 'portable' boats, we have
> a motorhome, and will be de-flating the boat for storage, but we alsmot
> alway seek out a camping spot near a river, canal or lake, hence why we
> got the kyak in the first place.
>
> Or do you need to get some temporary registration thing for each water way
> you visit? even if it's only for a couple of hour pootle about to see
> what's around the next bend,
>
> I think places like lake windermere, the norfolk borads etc charge a
> 'toll' for going on their waters, is that applicable everywhere?
>
> All we want to do is park up near a bit of water, and if the weathers
> decent, blow the boat up, attatch the outboard, and go for a little pootle
> about.
>
> Now.. to make matters more complicated, we do a lot of traveling around
> europe, whats the situation for using an english registered small motor
> boat there? france, germany, switzerland and belgium mainly,
>
> On our 2006 euro tour, we were told off by the lake luzern (Switzerland)
> water police for using our kyak with it's electric motor on the lake, they
> never said we needed to register it or anything like that, just said we
> couldent use the motor on that boat on that lake, and paddeling of boats
> isnt allowed outside the swimming area!!!
>
> Cheers for any help,
>
> Gazz
>
>