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Since: Sep 11, 2004 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 8:13 am
Post subject: Getting two section paddles apart- saltwater corrosion -Hel Archived from groups: rec>boats>paddle (more info?)
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I borrowed my daughter's kayak which has paddles that come apart that I
didn't take apart and rinse after going into salt water. Now I can't get one
apart. Some corrosion inside. They are aluminum tubes that slide into each
other that are corroded.
Any ideas on some type of spray lubricant or other type of spray that I
could spray inside to see if that would help?
Also, I can't use much heat because paddles covered with plastic type
coating, but I am wondering if a hair dryer my help. >> Stay informed about: Getting two section paddles apart- saltwater corrosion -H.. |
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Since: Sep 02, 2003 Posts: 281
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 11:23 am
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"Rick and Frances Cansler" <rcans2.RemoveThis@kalama.com> wrote in message
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> I borrowed my daughter's kayak which has paddles that come apart that I
> didn't take apart and rinse after going into salt water. Now I can't get
one
> apart. Some corrosion inside. They are aluminum tubes that slide into
each
> other that are corroded.
>
> Any ideas on some type of spray lubricant or other type of spray that I
> could spray inside to see if that would help?
>
>
>
> Also, I can't use much heat because paddles covered with plastic type
> coating, but I am wondering if a hair dryer my help.
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>
Hmmm, a hair dryer cant hurt, but I think Aluminum doesn't expand much in
heat, so I wouldn't hope for much. If you DO use the hairdryer, first try to
cool off the tubes by packing ice around them, then quickly heat it so the
inside one stays cool, the outside one heats.
Or try using some WD40 right in the seam, then get a friend and each of you
pull apart. Not from separate sides: each of you hold a hand on each side of
the paddle (as if you were pulling alone) and pull. That works much better.
Even three people can pull.
Before you use the WD40, though, try leaving it in the bathtub for 10
minutes. There might just be salt condensed in the seam, which freshwater
will dissolve out.
good luck
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Since: Jul 15, 2003 Posts: 21
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 7:22 pm
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 15:56:19 +0100, "riverman" <nospam RemoveThis @sorry.com>
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>"Rick and Frances Cansler" <rcans2 RemoveThis @kalama.com> wrote in message
>news:67KdnRWB6ctymt7cRVn-vw@scnresearch.com...
>> I borrowed my daughter's kayak which has paddles that come apart that I
>> didn't take apart and rinse after going into salt water. Now I can't get
>one
>> apart. Some corrosion inside. They are aluminum tubes that slide into
>each
>> other that are corroded.
>>
>> Any ideas on some type of spray lubricant or other type of spray that I
>> could spray inside to see if that would help?
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, I can't use much heat because paddles covered with plastic type
>> coating, but I am wondering if a hair dryer my help.
>>
>>
>
>Hmmm, a hair dryer cant hurt, but I think Aluminum doesn't expand much in
>heat, so I wouldn't hope for much. If you DO use the hairdryer, first try to
>cool off the tubes by packing ice around them, then quickly heat it so the
>inside one stays cool, the outside one heats.
>
>Or try using some WD40 right in the seam, then get a friend and each of you
>pull apart. Not from separate sides: each of you hold a hand on each side of
>the paddle (as if you were pulling alone) and pull. That works much better.
>Even three people can pull.
>
>Before you use the WD40, though, try leaving it in the bathtub for 10
>minutes. There might just be salt condensed in the seam, which freshwater
>will dissolve out.
>
>good luck
We had a good thread on this about 6 months or more ago. I can't
remember the outcome, but there were several good ideas. I believe
soaked it in water fist, used WD-40 and then hung weights on it.
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Since: Jul 05, 2003 Posts: 5
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:23 am
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Since: Sep 04, 2003 Posts: 27
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 1:22 pm
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Since: Jun 25, 2003 Posts: 835
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:25 pm
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KAYAKFAN (kayakfan@aol.com) writes:
> WD40
>
> Soak ... Soak ... Soak ... Soak ...
tap, tap, tap
for rusty bolts on the car I use 2 applications of WD40 per day with some
gentle tapping an twisting - takes about 3 days
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> Two people twist ... in about a week ...
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> That's my guess ... Had this happen to me.
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> Mike Goodman
> High Point, NC
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Since: Jun 24, 2003 Posts: 40
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:25 pm
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On 12 Sep 2004 20:40:01 GMT, ag384 RemoveThis @FreeNet.Carleton.CA (William R. Watt)
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>KAYAKFAN (kayakfan@aol.com) writes:
>> WD40
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>> Soak ... Soak ... Soak ... Soak ...
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>tap, tap, tap
I heartily agree with the tap, tap, tapping. NOT pound, pound, pound.
Lots of gentle tapping, maybe even for hours. Oh yeah, wiggle, wiggle,
wiggle, too. Rinse. Repeat.
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Since: Sep 11, 2004 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:25 pm
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Thanks for great suggestions. I know that this will take time and patience!
"William R. Watt" <ag384 DeleteThis @FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
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> KAYAKFAN (kayakfan@aol.com) writes:
> > WD40
> >
> > Soak ... Soak ... Soak ... Soak ...
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> tap, tap, tap
>
> for rusty bolts on the car I use 2 applications of WD40 per day with some
> gentle tapping an twisting - takes about 3 days
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> > Two people twist ... in about a week ...
> >
> > That's my guess ... Had this happen to me.
> >
> > Mike Goodman
> > High Point, NC
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Since: Jun 26, 2003 Posts: 289
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:18 pm
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Since: Aug 14, 2004 Posts: 5
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:22 pm
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tip of the week...... stand on end....the blade connected to the female side
towards the ground. Smear petrolium jelly of choice around the joined
pieces. Use a heat gun, as hair dryer is not quite hot enough, the jelly
melts and while still hot, 2 person twist should do it.
"Galen Hekhuis" <ghekhuis DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On 12 Sep 2004 20:40:01 GMT, ag384 DeleteThis @FreeNet.Carleton.CA (William R. Watt)
> wrote:
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> >KAYAKFAN (kayakfan@aol.com) writes:
> >> WD40
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> >> Soak ... Soak ... Soak ... Soak ...
> >
> >tap, tap, tap
>
> I heartily agree with the tap, tap, tapping. NOT pound, pound, pound.
> Lots of gentle tapping, maybe even for hours. Oh yeah, wiggle, wiggle,
> wiggle, too. Rinse. Repeat.
>
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Since: Jun 24, 2003 Posts: 40
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:22 pm
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On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 23:00:11 -0400, "Mike B" <mbetts.DeleteThis@suscom.net> wrote:
>tip of the week...... stand on end....the blade connected to the female side
>towards the ground. Smear petrolium jelly of choice around the joined
>pieces. Use a heat gun, as hair dryer is not quite hot enough, the jelly
>melts and while still hot, 2 person twist should do it.
Either that, or you could just convince yourself that you really wanted a
one-piece paddle in the first place, put some duct tape on the joint, and
marvel at how well it holds.
>"Galen Hekhuis" <ghekhuis.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:j8e9k0l6bg5dimr8qu9obhrv1pmatmr4t9@4ax.com...
>> On 12 Sep 2004 20:40:01 GMT, ag384.DeleteThis@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (William R. Watt)
>> wrote:
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>> >KAYAKFAN (kayakfan@aol.com) writes:
>> >> WD40
>> >>
>> >> Soak ... Soak ... Soak ... Soak ...
>> >
>> >tap, tap, tap
>>
>> I heartily agree with the tap, tap, tapping. NOT pound, pound, pound.
>> Lots of gentle tapping, maybe even for hours. Oh yeah, wiggle, wiggle,
>> wiggle, too. Rinse. Repeat.
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Since: Jul 15, 2003 Posts: 21
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:24 am
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On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 23:00:11 -0400, "Mike B" <mbetts DeleteThis @suscom.net>
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>> I heartily agree with the tap, tap, tapping. NOT pound, pound, pound.
>> Lots of gentle tapping, maybe even for hours. Oh yeah, wiggle, wiggle,
>> wiggle, too. Rinse. Repeat.
Are we still talking boat paddles?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Getting two section paddles apart- saltwater corrosion -H.. |
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Since: Sep 02, 2003 Posts: 281
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:21 am
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"Mike B" <mbetts.RemoveThis@suscom.net> wrote in message
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> tip of the week...... stand on end....the blade connected to the female
side
> towards the ground. Smear petrolium jelly of choice around the joined
> pieces. Use a heat gun, as hair dryer is not quite hot enough, the jelly
> melts and while still hot, 2 person twist should do it.
Why not use some technical skills? Connect one end to a tree by tossing a
clove hitch around the shaft down by the blade, then tie a loop with another
clove hitch on the other side of the paddle, rig the running end up with a
3-to-1 or 9-to-1 Z Drag, squirt some penetrating oil in there, and just haul
on the rope until it comes apart. I've seen rafts full-on postage-stamped
under waterfalls get dragged free with a 9-to-1, so I couldn't image some
little wimpy aluminum ions standing a chance. Once its under tension, I bet
a mild rap with a hammer would launch those two ends APART!
--riverman
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Since: Aug 21, 2003 Posts: 5
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:17 pm
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One of the few "brute force" success I ever had was when i removed a
broken wooden blade from a carbon fiber oar shaft where the blade had
been GLUED into the shaft. Obviously no amount of WD-40 or twisting
was going to get that off, so I connected some spectra to the blade
and tied that to a tree. Tied another piece of spectra to the oar
shaft (needed to use a clove hitch) and connected it to the front tow
hook of my SUV. I made sure that the force I was about to put on the
blade/oars was aligned with how I wanted the blade to exit, put the
SUV in 4wd low lock (excessive, any car would do) and eased back on
the clutch. it worked surprisingly well, though I though for sure
something would break and lurch into the bumper of my car.
"riverman" <nospam.TakeThisOut@sorry.com> wrote in message news:<2qo0meF126rkjU1.TakeThisOut@uni-berlin.de>...
> "Mike B" <mbetts.TakeThisOut@suscom.net> wrote in message
> news:8LGdnZQWpMQgw9vcRVn-tw@suscom.com...
> > tip of the week...... stand on end....the blade connected to the female
> side
> > towards the ground. Smear petrolium jelly of choice around the joined
> > pieces. Use a heat gun, as hair dryer is not quite hot enough, the jelly
> > melts and while still hot, 2 person twist should do it.
>
>
> Why not use some technical skills? Connect one end to a tree by tossing a
> clove hitch around the shaft down by the blade, then tie a loop with another
> clove hitch on the other side of the paddle, rig the running end up with a
> 3-to-1 or 9-to-1 Z Drag, squirt some penetrating oil in there, and just haul
> on the rope until it comes apart. I've seen rafts full-on postage-stamped
> under waterfalls get dragged free with a 9-to-1, so I couldn't image some
> little wimpy aluminum ions standing a chance. Once its under tension, I bet
> a mild rap with a hammer would launch those two ends APART!
>
> --riverman
> who loves it when we talk this way.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Getting two section paddles apart- saltwater corrosion -H.. |
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