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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:23 am
Post subject: I need to know about sailing
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In December my wife and me are moving to Bermuda and I would like to
learn to sail. I have looked on the net and think a 28-30 foot used
sailboat would be nice to own. Is this a good size to learn on? Also to
buy a boat in Bermuda is much more costly than in the US so I thought
about buyin US and have someone sail it to Bermuda. Is this a large
enough craft for the trip and are there good sailors than can be hired
to do this for me. I had heard that the duties in Bermuda are over 30%
but if the vessel arrives under its own power it is taxed less or not
at all.
Thanks for any help you might provide
Gary |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:34 am
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garyw wrote:
> In December my wife and me are moving to Bermuda
Sounds like a good idea
> ... and I would like to
> learn to sail.
Another good idea.
> ... I have looked on the net and think a 28-30 foot used
> sailboat would be nice to own.
Yep, some are nicer than others though.
> ... Is this a good size to learn on?
Not really. The best size boat to learn on is a small, responsive boat
that is guaranteed to tip over when you make a mistake. Not dignified,
you'll learn to be a *good* sailor.
> .... Also to
> buy a boat in Bermuda is much more costly than in the US so I thought
> about buyin US and have someone sail it to Bermuda. Is this a large
> enough craft for the trip and are there good sailors than can be hired
> to do this for me.
Yes and yes. Look under 'delivery captains.'
One bit of serious advice I have for a prospective sailboat buyer is to
take the amount you can spend on buying a boat, put no more than 75% of
that toward the purchase of the boat, and reserve the rest for repairs &
upgrades after purchase. Budget for the delivery, and for insurance &
moorage too.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:35 am
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:55 pm
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"garyw" <gary.DeleteThis@thewallacenet.com> wrote in message
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> In December my wife and me are moving to Bermuda and I would like to
> learn to sail. I have looked on the net and think a 28-30 foot used
> sailboat would be nice to own. Is this a good size to learn on? Also to
> buy a boat in Bermuda is much more costly than in the US so I thought
> about buyin US and have someone sail it to Bermuda. Is this a large
> enough craft for the trip and are there good sailors than can be hired
> to do this for me. I had heard that the duties in Bermuda are over 30%
> but if the vessel arrives under its own power it is taxed less or not
> at all.
>
> Thanks for any help you might provide
>
> Gary
>
A lot depends on how you plan to use it once you are there. day sailing /
overnighting / blue water or coastal. That will also determine what
features you need to look for in a boat. >> Stay informed about: I need to know about sailing |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:37 pm
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No need to add to what others have said so far, except: ***Have the boat
inspected by a qualified surveyor*** before you complete the deal. This
newsgroup regularly has horror stories about people who didn't do that. Even
if he finds nothing seriously wrong, it's good to have another pair of eyes
look things over for small things you might not notice. People sometimes get
wrapped up in the emotions surrounding a boat, house or car, and totally
overlook features or conditions that will be major annoyances later.
For instance, there's an iron pipe in my basement, the trap for the bathroom
drains. It's exactly 6'1" from the floor. I'm 6'2". Not funny. >> Stay informed about: I need to know about sailing |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:47 pm
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On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 17:37:28 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
<ancientangler RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>No need to add to what others have said so far, except: ***Have the boat
>inspected by a qualified surveyor*** before you complete the deal. This
>newsgroup regularly has horror stories about people who didn't do that. Even
>if he finds nothing seriously wrong, it's good to have another pair of eyes
>look things over for small things you might not notice. People sometimes get
>wrapped up in the emotions surrounding a boat, house or car, and totally
>overlook features or conditions that will be major annoyances later.
>
>For instance, there's an iron pipe in my basement, the trap for the bathroom
>drains. It's exactly 6'1" from the floor. I'm 6'2". Not funny.
Yes it is. >> Stay informed about: I need to know about sailing |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:47 pm
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> Doug Kanter wrote:
>>No need to add to what others have said so far, except: ***Have the boat
>>inspected by a qualified surveyor*** before you complete the deal.
Very good point.
The surveyor adds to the expense of making the deal, but pays for itself
many times over. In fact a good survey can literally save your life.
>> ... This
>>newsgroup regularly has horror stories about people who didn't do that. Even
>>if he finds nothing seriously wrong, it's good to have another pair of eyes
>>look things over for small things you might not notice. People sometimes get
>>wrapped up in the emotions surrounding a boat, house or car, and totally
>>overlook features or conditions that will be major annoyances later.
>>
>>For instance, there's an iron pipe in my basement, the trap for the bathroom
>>drains. It's exactly 6'1" from the floor. I'm 6'2". Not funny.
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
> Yes it is.
You're cruel.
But you're right, it *is* funny!
DSK >> Stay informed about: I need to know about sailing |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:10 pm
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" <emaildisguised.TakeThisOut@askme.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 17:37:28 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
> <ancientangler.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>No need to add to what others have said so far, except: ***Have the boat
>>inspected by a qualified surveyor*** before you complete the deal. This
>>newsgroup regularly has horror stories about people who didn't do that.
>>Even
>>if he finds nothing seriously wrong, it's good to have another pair of
>>eyes
>>look things over for small things you might not notice. People sometimes
>>get
>>wrapped up in the emotions surrounding a boat, house or car, and totally
>>overlook features or conditions that will be major annoyances later.
>>
>>For instance, there's an iron pipe in my basement, the trap for the
>>bathroom
>>drains. It's exactly 6'1" from the floor. I'm 6'2". Not funny.
>
> Yes it is.
Well...in a Funniest Home Videos sort of way.  >> Stay informed about: I need to know about sailing |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:33 am
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:34 am
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:35 am
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:24 am
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"DSK" <dsk.DeleteThis@dontbotherme.com> wrote in message
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>> Doug Kanter wrote:
>>>No need to add to what others have said so far, except: ***Have the boat
>>>inspected by a qualified surveyor*** before you complete the deal.
>
> Very good point.
>
> The surveyor adds to the expense of making the deal, but pays for itself
> many times over. In fact a good survey can literally save your life.
It's funny, though: In places where lenders REQUIRE an inspection for a
house purchase, nobody really questions the idea. In the excitement of
making the deal, buyers easily miss things that they KNOW about from
reading, talking to friends, or even from experience with their previous
home. I looked at my house 4 times before making an offer. Didn't notice
that the dryer vent hose was totally convoluted - a definite fire hazard,
and something I obsessed over in my previous house. The inspector said "Put
this at the top of your list as soon as you move in". That sort of
thing..... >> Stay informed about: I need to know about sailing |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:54 pm
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"garyw" <gary DeleteThis @thewallacenet.com> wrote in message
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> Thank you
>
You're welcome. Start searching for marine surveyors well ahead of time so
you can get recommendations from various people and pick someone decent.
Otherwise, when you find the boat that steals your heart, you'll be rushed &
excited and you could end up with someone less than excellent. >> Stay informed about: I need to know about sailing |
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