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Short Wave Sportfishing

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:00 pm
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Why Democrats just don't get it.

"I don't regard it as a tax increase. It's only a tax increase to the
person who is paying it," he said.

Well, DUH...

http://www.nysun.com/article/66465?page_no=1

By the way, no relation. :>)

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:00 pm
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On Nov 15, 12:00�pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em....RemoveThis@swsports.org>
wrote:
> Why Democrats just don't get it.
>
> "I don't regard it as a tax increase. It's only a tax increase to the
> person who is paying it," he said.
>
> Well, DUH...
>
> http://www.nysun.com/article/66465?page_no=1
>
> By the way, no relation. �:>)

Many, many states require on-line retailers to charge the sales tax on
any purchases shipped to their particular state.

It's more of a closure of a loophole than a tax increase. Why should
the hard working Mom and Pop small businesses, part of the local
community and possibly providing employment and paying other taxes, be
at a 4-9% disadvantage vs. the soulless mega-outlet or internet
retailer?
There's no question that most folks will give lip service to
"supporting local business" while they
almost break their mousing fingers ordering stuff off the internet for
a couple of percent less......most folks mean that *somebody else*
should support local businesses. Smile

Try ordering some boat stuff on line. Many suppliers will charge you
your local sales tax as part of the transaction.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:00 pm
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On Nov 15, 3:49�pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em....TakeThisOut@swsports.org>
wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:43:04 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
>
> <chuckgould.ch....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Try ordering some boat stuff on line. Many suppliers will charge you
> >your local sales tax as part of the transaction.
>
> I buy a lot online and haven't paid state or local tax yet.
>
> Ever.

May be a CT law, or lack of one.
Laws in NY and elsewhere may differ from those in your home state.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:00 pm
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On Nov 15, 4:32�pm, "BillP" <Bi....RemoveThis@nopetospam.com> wrote:
> "Short Wave Sportfishing" <em....RemoveThis@swsports.org> wrote in messagenews:inmpj3dh56dkht4tpabvc0k3m4ofofhreb@4ax.com...
>
> > On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:43:04 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
> > <chuckgould.ch....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>Try ordering some boat stuff on line. Many suppliers will charge you
> >>your local sales tax as part of the transaction.
>
> > I buy a lot online and haven't paid state or local tax yet.
>
> > Ever.
>
> As long as your not buying from a store with a presence in your state you'll
> never pay any sales tax, it's illegal.


Somebody better tell Amazon.com. They don't operate a single retail
store anywhere, yet there are four states that require Amazon to
collect sales tax on shipments.

Details:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=468512
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:32 pm
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email RemoveThis @swsports.org> wrote in message
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> Why Democrats just don't get it.
>
> "I don't regard it as a tax increase. It's only a tax increase to the
> person who is paying it," he said.
>
> Well, DUH...
>
> http://www.nysun.com/article/66465?page_no=1
>
> By the way, no relation. :>)
>

¿Qué?

He really should've kept his previous job.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:49 pm
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:43:04 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
<chuckgould.chuck.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>Try ordering some boat stuff on line. Many suppliers will charge you
>your local sales tax as part of the transaction.

I buy a lot online and haven't paid state or local tax yet.

Ever.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:49 pm
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email.DeleteThis@swsports.org> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:43:04 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
> <chuckgould.chuck.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Try ordering some boat stuff on line. Many suppliers will charge you
>>your local sales tax as part of the transaction.
>
> I buy a lot online and haven't paid state or local tax yet.
>
> Ever.

If you order merchandise from a company on the internet with retail stores
in your State you definitely will pay sales tax.......period.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:49 pm
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email.RemoveThis@swsports.org> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:43:04 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
> <chuckgould.chuck.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Try ordering some boat stuff on line. Many suppliers will charge you
>>your local sales tax as part of the transaction.
>
> I buy a lot online and haven't paid state or local tax yet.
>
> Ever.


We always have to pay the 14% HST (combined federal GST of 6% + PST of 8%)
when ordering out of province. The seller is obligated to charge this tax
and remit it to the governments. I don't buy from small time sellers so
there may be a louphole there.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:49 pm
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:49:39 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
<email.DeleteThis@swsports.org> wrote:

>I buy a lot online and haven't paid state or local tax yet.
>
>Ever.

Ditto, unless they are in the same state.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:49 pm
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"Wayne.B" <waynebatrecdotboats.DeleteThis@hothail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:49:39 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
> <email.DeleteThis@swsports.org> wrote:
>
>>I buy a lot online and haven't paid state or local tax yet.
>>
>>Ever.
>
> Ditto, unless they are in the same state.

I would not brag about it.........your taxation agencies ask you about out
of State purchases where no sales tax was paid. Wink
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:19 am
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"Chuck Gould" <chuckgould.chuck.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Try ordering some boat stuff on line. Many suppliers will charge you
your local sales tax as part of the transaction.

Only if the store has a presence in your state, interstate commerce is
exempt from local and state tax.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:32 am
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email.DeleteThis@swsports.org> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:43:04 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
> <chuckgould.chuck.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Try ordering some boat stuff on line. Many suppliers will charge you
>>your local sales tax as part of the transaction.
>
> I buy a lot online and haven't paid state or local tax yet.
>
> Ever.

As long as your not buying from a store with a presence in your state you'll
never pay any sales tax, it's illegal.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:32 am
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"Gene Kearns" <gene.boating.TakeThisOut@myworkshop.idleplay.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:32:38 GMT, BillP penned the following well
> considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
>
>>
>>"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email.TakeThisOut@swsports.org> wrote in message
>>news:inmpj3dh56dkht4tpabvc0k3m4ofofhreb@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:43:04 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
>>> <chuckgould.chuck.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Try ordering some boat stuff on line. Many suppliers will charge you
>>>>your local sales tax as part of the transaction.
>>>
>>> I buy a lot online and haven't paid state or local tax yet.
>>>
>>> Ever.
>>
>>As long as your not buying from a store with a presence in your state
>>you'll
>>never pay any sales tax, it's illegal.
>>
>
> You don't have any better grasp on this than you do global warming!
> Please research the term "use tax."
>
> Also see(for example):
> http://www.maine.gov/revenue/salesuse/usetax.pdf
> http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/64i-2.htm
> http://www.arkansas.gov/dfa/rules/et2006_9.pdf
>


BillP is wrong again?? We'd better start keeping score.
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