Why all the political talk on boating board

They won't do it because if they went to a real political group, they would
get eaten alive. I think 95% of them are trolls and know it and the other 5%
are trolls and don't know it.

--
Bill
Chesapeake, Va


"about time" <fxfoley.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
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 > There is so much political talk on this board you almost can't find
 > the threads related to boats.
 >
 > Why don't you guys take the political stuff to a different place so
 > people here can enjoy what they are looking for; great info and advice
 > on boats.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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o This is a Usenet newsgroup, not a "board."

o I don't know why others post about politics here. But from all
the responses and banter it seems there are many interested in
the discussion.

o I try to post mostly about boats and only sometimes about
politics. One of the reasons I post about politics is because it
interests me. One of the reasons I post here is because after
reading this newsgroup for five years I have some knowledge
of the people posting. That makes the political discussion more
relevant and interesting to me than in other groups.

o The idea is often floated that if people posted their thoughts to
political boards or groups they would get "eaten alive." Most
of the political groups I've checked in on don't have any
higher standards of argument or knowledge than this one.

o Political groups pose another problem. Most of them seem
to me to be 100's of single posts and very little discussion.
Sometimes there are one or two or five replies but not
often. Here one gets lively discussion.

o As the oft used analogy goes: It's like talking politics at
your local marina bar.

o Most groups I frequent have political discussion even though
the groups are not political groups. It's something that touches
all walks of life and people with all interests.

o If you don't like the politics it is VERY easy to ignore them. You
can filter on a few words, block posts from a few people, and you
hardly see the politics. (Or so I've heard.)

o Lastly and most importantly, this newsgroup is GREAT for
boating. Almost any question or post you make about boating
gets many knowledgeable and interesting responses.

So what is the problem?
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It is a well established tradition and is going to be maintained whether
you, I or anyone else likes it. Ignore it, join it, or find another list.
It is also one of the best places known for a boating question or
discussion.

(And the political discussion is pretty high quality in my opinion...better
than most usenet or other lists. We should charge money to read Harry and
his trollees.)

Jim
"about time" <fxfoley.DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
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 > There is so much political talk on this board you almost can't find
 > the threads related to boats.
 >
 > Why don't you guys take the political stuff to a different place so
 > people here can enjoy what they are looking for; great info and advice
 > on boats.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Why all the political talk on boating board 

Damn, talk about rationalizing.

--
Bill
Chesapeake, Va


"Gary Warner" <jabadoodle.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > o This is a Usenet newsgroup, not a "board."
 >
 > o I don't know why others post about politics here. But from all
 > the responses and banter it seems there are many interested in
 > the discussion.
 >
 > o I try to post mostly about boats and only sometimes about
 > politics. One of the reasons I post about politics is because it
 > interests me. One of the reasons I post here is because after
 > reading this newsgroup for five years I have some knowledge
 > of the people posting. That makes the political discussion more
 > relevant and interesting to me than in other groups.
 >
 > o The idea is often floated that if people posted their thoughts to
 > political boards or groups they would get "eaten alive." Most
 > of the political groups I've checked in on don't have any
 > higher standards of argument or knowledge than this one.
 >
 > o Political groups pose another problem. Most of them seem
 > to me to be 100's of single posts and very little discussion.
 > Sometimes there are one or two or five replies but not
 > often. Here one gets lively discussion.
 >
 > o As the oft used analogy goes: It's like talking politics at
 > your local marina bar.
 >
 > o Most groups I frequent have political discussion even though
 > the groups are not political groups. It's something that touches
 > all walks of life and people with all interests.
 >
 > o If you don't like the politics it is VERY easy to ignore them. You
 > can filter on a few words, block posts from a few people, and you
 > hardly see the politics. (Or so I've heard.)
 >
 > o Lastly and most importantly, this newsgroup is GREAT for
 > boating. Almost any question or post you make about boating
 > gets many knowledgeable and interesting responses.
 >
 > So what is the problem?
 >
 >
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"Gary Warner" <jabadoodle.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > o As the oft used analogy goes: It's like talking politics at
 > your local marina bar.

That's MY analogy, but I'll let you mention it this time without hearing
from my lawyers.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"IBNFSHN" <Bhile RemoveThis @cox.net> wrote in message
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 > Damn, talk about rationalizing.
 >
 > --
 > Bill
 > Chesapeake, Va
 >

You have something against explicitly knowing
the reasons for which you do something?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On 18 May 2004 09:13:19 -0700, fxfoley.TakeThisOut@verizon.net (about time) wrote:

 >There is so much political talk on this board you almost can't find
 >the threads related to boats.
 >
 >Why don't you guys take the political stuff to a different place so
 >people here can enjoy what they are looking for; great info and advice
 >on boats.

First off, this is not a "board," it is a newsgroup and as such, is
unmoderated. Originally, people posting to USENET were mature enough
to self police and restricted themselves to on-topic posts. It didn't
take long for those with an axe to grind to find out that USENET was a
way to force others to read their viewpoint or somehow ignore it.

I'll brush issues of censorship aside, now, since I don't think it
really applies. There is a time and place for everything, including
your political position.... it just doesn't belong here. That isn't
what this small space of the Internet is set aside to promote.... but
then there are those that will rudely intrude anywhere.....

My advice to you (and all posters not using software specifically
written to hand newsgroups) is to use a newsreader that employs
filters (such as Agent) and delete these OT fiends before they ruin
you online boating experience.

I've found that those politely posting with "OT" in the subject and
about eight other boors can be excluded such that there is only a
small amount of OT posting. In other words, a few can spoil it for
the many. There is a way to regain the newsgroup for boating, but
you'll have to be proactive..... those OT boors that demand to be
heard will not yield to reason or courtesy.

--



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 >> Stay informed about: Why all the political talk on boating board 

Also Sprach Gary Warner <jabadoodle RemoveThis @yahoo.com>:

 > o As the oft used analogy goes: It's like talking politics at
 > your local marina bar.

It's more like a few drunken morons in the corner talking politics at your
local marina bar, then one of them breaks the bottom off a bottle of
scotch and runs around the room jabbing glass shards into the gut of
someone discussing whether an anchor rode is a rope or a line.

 > o Lastly and most importantly, this newsgroup is GREAT for
 > boating. Almost any question or post you make about boating
 > gets many knowledgeable and interesting responses.

And eventually, some asshat will steer ANY actual on-topic thread into a
back stabbing political free for all.

Dan



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is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe and not
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"Gary Warner" <jabadoodle.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > "IBNFSHN" <Bhile.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote in message
 > news:hhvqc.168509$f_5.53490@lakeread01...
  > > Damn, talk about rationalizing.
  > >
  > > --
  > > Bill
  > > Chesapeake, Va
  > >
 >
 > You have something against explicitly knowing
 > the reasons for which you do something?
 >
 >
 >

Like voting a certain way? <!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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In article <Zkrqc.168486$f_5.160359@lakeread01>, Bhile DeleteThis @cox.net says...
 > They won't do it because if they went to a real political group, they would
 > get eaten alive. I think 95% of them are trolls and know it and the other 5%
 > are trolls and don't know it.

Clearly you've never spent any time on the political groups, or were you
just trolling?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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