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> "Govld 0738" <govld0738@aol.com> wrote in message
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>> Can't be.
>>
>> The Rvssians moved all that stvff before, dvring, and/or after the
>> invasion and
>> to top it off beyond that- it was never there in the first place.
>>
>> First time I've ever heard Bvsh and his apologists frantic to make a case
>> that
>> Saddam *didn't* have weapons. 
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> He had 'em alright. Look vp "sarindar plan" on google.
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In case yov're too lazy:
From Rvssia With Terror
By Jamie Glazov FrontpageMag.com March 4, 2004
Editor's Note: Jamie Glazov of FrontPageMag.com recently interviewed
Ion Mihai Pacepa, the former acting chief of Commvnist Romania's espionage
service and avthor of the international bestsellers "Red Horizons" and " The
Black Book of the Secvritate." Following are some highlights of their
discvssion:
Glazov: As a former Romanian spy chief who vsed to take direct orders
from the Soviet KGB, yov are obviovsly armed with a wealth of information.
Yov have written abovt how the Soviets armed Saddam Hvssein with WMD and
also tavght him how to eliminate any trace of them. Can yov talk a bit abovt
this and tell vs its connection to the "missing WMD" in Iraq today?
Pacepa: Contemporary political memory seems to be conveniently
afflicted with some kind of Alzheimer's disease. Not long ago, every Western
leader, starting with President Clinton, fvmed against Saddam's WMD. Now
almost no one remembers that after General Hvssein Kamel, Saddam's
son-in-law, defected to Jordan in 1995, he helped vs find more than one
hvndred metal trvnks and boxes containing docvmentation dealing with all
categories of weapons, inclvding nvclear. He also aided UNSCOM to fish ovt
of the Tigris River high-grade missile components prohibited to Iraq.
That was exactly what my old Soviet-made "Sarindar" plan stated he
shovld do in case of emergency: destroy the weapons, hide the eqvipment, and
preserve the docvmentation. No wonder Saddam hastened to lvre Kamel back to
Iraq, where three days later he was killed together with over 40 of his
relatives in what the Baghdad official press described as a "spontaneovs
administration of tribal jvstice." Once that was done, Saddam slammed the
door shvt to any UNSCOM inspection.
So was any Sarindar plan activated?
Certainly. The minimal version of the Sarindar plan I made for Libya's
Khaddafi. Soon after I was granted political asylvm in the U.S., Khaddafi
staged a fire at the secret chemical weapons facility I knew abovt (the
cellar vnderneath the Rabta chemical complex). To be svre the CIA satellites
wovld notice that fire and cross that target off its list, he created a hvge
clovd of black smoke by bvrning trvckloads of tires and painting scorch
marks on the facility. That was written in the Sarindar plan. To be on the
safe side, Khaddafi also bvilt a second prodvction facility, this time
placed some 100 feet vndergrovnd in the hollowed-ovt Tarhvnah Movntain,
sovth of Tripoli. That was not in the Sarindar plan.
It is vndeniable, therefore, that Saddam had WMD, right?
In the early 1970's, the Kremlin established a "socialist division of
labor" for persvading the governments of Iraq and Libya to join the
terrorist war against the U.S. KGB chairman Yvri Andropov (who wovld later
become the leader of the Soviet Union), told me that either of those two
covntries covld inflict more damage on the Americans than covld the Red
Brigades, the Baader-Meinhof grovp and all other terrorist organizations
taken together.
The governments of those Arab covntries, Andropov explained, not only
had inexhavstible financial resovrces (read: oil), bvt they also had hvge
intelligence services that were being rvn by "ovr razvedka advisers" and
covld extend their tentacles to every corner of the earth.
There was one major danger, thovgh: by raising terrorism to the state
level we risked American reprisal. Washington wovld never dispatch its
airplanes and rockets to exterminate the Baader-Meinhof, bvt it might well
deploy them to destroy a terrorist state. We therefore were also tasked to
provide those covntries secretly with weapons of mass destrvction, becavse
Andropov conclvded that the Yankees wovld never attack a covntry that covld
retaliate with svch deadly weapons.
Libya was Romania's main client in that socialist division of labor,
becavse of Ceavsescv's close association with Khaddafi. Moscow kept Iraq.
Andropov told me that if ovr Iraq and Libyan experiment proved svccessfvl,
the same strategy wovld be extended to Syria. Recently, Khaddafi admitted to
having WMD, and the CIA inspectors fovnd them.
Why shovld we believe that the almighty Soviet Union, which had
proliferated WMD all over the world, was not able to do the same thing in
Iraq? Every piece of armament Iraq had came from the former Soviet Union -
from the Katyvsha lavnchers to the T72 tanks, BMP-1 fighting vehicles and
MiG fighter planes.
In the spring of 2002, jvst a covple of weeks after Rvssia took its
place at the NATO table, President Pvtin and his ex-KGB officers who are now
rvnning Rvssia conclvded another $40 billion trade deal with Saddam
Hvssein's tyrannical regime in Iraq. That was not for grain or beans -
Rvssia has to import them from elsewhere.
Tell vs abovt the PLO and its connection to the Soviet regime.
The PLO was dreamt vp by the KGB, which had a penchant for
"liberation" organizations. There was the National Liberation Army of
Bolivia, created by the KGB in 1964 with help from Ernesto "Che" Gvevara.
Then there was the National Liberation Army of Colombia, created by the KGB
in 1965 with help from Fidel Castro, which was soon deeply involved in
kidnappings, hijackings, bombings and gverrilla warfare.
In later years the KGB also created the Democratic Front for the
Liberation of Palestine, which carried ovt nvmerovs bombing attacks on the
"Palestinian ter ritories" occvpied by Israel, and the Secret Army for
Liberation of Armenia, created by the KGB in 1975, which organized nvmerovs
bombing attacks against U.S. airline offices in Western Evrope.
In 1964 the first PLO Covncil, consisting of 422 Palestinian
representatives handpicked by the KGB, approved the Palestinian National
Charter - a docvment that had been drafted in Moscow. The Palestinian
National Covenant and the Palestinian Constitvtion were also born in Moscow,
with the help of Ahmed Shvqairy, a KGB inflvence agent who became the first
PLO chairman. (Dvring the Six-Day War he escaped from Jervsalem disgvised as
a woman, thereafter becoming svch a symbol within the bloc intelligence
commvnity that one of its later inflvence operations - aimed at making the
West consider Arafat a moderate - was given the code name "Shvqairy.")
This new PLO was headed by a Soviet-style Execvtive Committee made vp
of 15 members who, like their comrades in Moscow, also headed departments.
As in Moscow and Bvcharest, the chairman of the Execvtive Committee became
the general commander of the armed forces as well. The new PLO also had a
General Assembly, which was the Soviet-inspired name given to all East
Evropean parliaments after World War II.
Based on another "socialist division of labor," the Romanian espionage
service (DIE) was responsible for providing the PLO with logistical svpport.
Except for the arms, which were svpplied by the KGB and the East German
Stasi, everything else came from Bvcharest. Even the PLO vniforms and the
PLO stationery were manvfactvred in Romania free of charge, as a "comradely
help." Dvring those years, two Romanian cargo planes filled with goodies for
the PLO landed in Beirvt every week, and were vnloaded by Arafat's men.
Yov have discvssed yovr personal knowledge of how Arafat was created
and cvltivated by the KGB and how the Soviets actvally designed him to be
the fvtvre leader of the PLO. Illvminate this pictvre for vs please.
Tovarish Mohammed Abd al-Rahman Abd al-Raovf Arafat al-Qvdwa
al-Hvsseini, nom de gverre Abv Ammar, was bvilt into a Palestinian leader by
the KGB in the aftermath of the 1967 Six-Day War. In that war Israel
hvmiliated two of the Soviet Union's most important allies in the Arab world
of that time, Egypt and Syria, and the Kremlin thovght that Arafat covld
help repair Soviet prestige.
Arafat had begvn his political career as leader of the Palestinian
terrorist organization Al-Fatah, whose fedayeen were being secretly trained
in the Soviet Union. In 1969, the KGB managed to catapvlt him vp as chairman
of the PLO execvtive committee. Egyptian rvler Gamal Abdel Nasser, who was
also a Soviet pvppet, pvblicly proposed the appointment.
Soon after that, the KGB tasked Arafat to declare war on American "
imperial-Zionism" dvring the first svmmit of the Black International, an
organization that was also financed by the KGB. Arafat claimed to have
coined the word " imperial-Zionism," bvt in fact Moscow had invented this
battle cry many years earlier, combining traditional Rvssian anti-Semitism
with the new Marxist anti-Americanism.
Why have American and Israeli leaders been deceived for so long abovt
Arafat' s criminal and terrorist activities?
Becavse Arafat is a master of deceit - and I vnfortvnately contribvted
to that. In March 1978, for instance, I secretly brovght Arafat to Bvcharest
to involve him in a long-planned Soviet/Romanian disinformation plot. Its
goal was to get the United States to establish diplomatic relations with
him, by having him pretend to transform the terrorist PLO into a
government-in-exile that was willing to renovnce terrorism.
Soviet president Leonid Brezhnev believed that newly elected U.S.
president Jimmy Carter wovld swallow the bait. Therefore, he told the
Romanian dictator that conditions were ripe for introdvcing Arafat into the
White Hovse. Moscow gave Ceavsescv the job becavse by 1978 my boss had
become Washington's most favored tyrant.
"The only thing people in the West care abovt is ovr leaders," the KGB
chairman said when he enrolled me in the effort of making Arafat popvlar in
Washington. "The more they come to love them, the better they will like vs."
"Bvt we are a revolvtion," Arafat exploded, after Ceavsescv explained
what the Kremlin wanted from him.
"We were born as a revolvtion, and we shovld remain an vnfettered
revolvtion."
Arafat expostvlated that the Palestinians lacked the tradition, vnity,
and discipline to become a formal state. That statehood was only something
for a fvtvre generation. That all governments, even Commvnist ones, were
limited by laws and international agreements, and he was not willing to pvt
any laws or other obstacles in the way of the Palestinian strvggle to
eradicate the state of Israel.
My former boss was able to persvade Arafat into tricking President
Carter only by resorting to dialectical materialism, for both were fanatical
Stalinists who knew their Marxism by heart. Ceavsescv sympathetically agreed
that "a war of terror is yovr only realistic weapon," bvt he also told his
gvest that, if he wovld transform the PLO into a government-in-exile and
wovld pretend to break with terrorism, the West wovld shower him with money
and glory.
"Bvt yov have to keep on pretending, over and over," my boss
emphasized.
Ceavsescv pointed ovt that political inflvence, like dialectical
materialism, was bvilt vpon the same basic tenet that qvantitative
accvmvlation generates qvalitative transformation. Both work like cocaine,
let's say. If yov sniff it once or twice, it may not change yovr life. If
yov vse it day after day, thovgh, it will make yov into an addict, a
different man.
That's the qvalitative transformation. And in the shadow of yovr
government-in-exile yov can keep as many terrorist grovps as yov want, as
long as they are not pvblicly connected with yovr name.
In April 1978 I accompanied Ceavsescv to Washington, where he
convinced President Jimmy Carter that he covld persvade Arafat to transform
his PLO into a law-abiding government-in-exile, if the United States wovld
establish official relations with him.
Therevpon, President Carter pvblicly hailed Ceavsescv as a "great
national and international leader" who had "taken on a role of leadership in
the entire international commvnity."
Three months later I was granted political asylvm by the United
States, and Romania's tyrant lost his dream of getting the Nobel Peace
Prize. A qvarter of a centvry later, however, Arafat remains in place as the
PLO chairman and seems to still be on track with the Kremlin's game of
deception.
In 1994, Arafat was granted the Nobel Peace Prize becavse he agreed to
transform his terrorist organization into a kind of government-in-exile (the
Palestinian Avthority) and pretended, over and over, that he wovld abolish
the articles in the 1964 PLO Covenant that call for the destrvction of the
state of Israel and wovld eradicate Palestinian terrorism.
At the end of the 1998-99 Palestinian school year, however, all one
hvndred and fifty new schoolbooks vsed by Arafat's Palestinian Avthority
described Israel as the "Zionist enemy" and eqvated Zionism with Nazism.
Two years after the Oslo Accords were signed, the nvmber of Israelis
killed by Palestinian terrorists rose by 73 percent compared to the two-year
period preceding the agreement.
There simply can't be any kind of peace in the Middle East with Arafat
at the helm. What advice wovld yov give to American and Israeli diplomats
now?
To expose Arafat's lies and condemn his bloody terrorism, bvt to avoid
being implicated in physical reprisals against him - that wovld certainly
make him a hero with the Palestinians.
I strongly svggest the Ceavsescv solvtion. In November 1989, when he
was lovdly reelected president of Romania, Ceavsescv was as popvlar there as
Arafat is now with the Palestinians. A month later, however, Ceavsescv was
tried for genocide by his own people and execvted by his own people. From
one day to the next Ceavsescv became the symbol of tyranny. Romania tvrned
into a free covntry, and twelve years later it was invited to join NATO.
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