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(Msg. 31) Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:22 pm
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"Plays With Morons" <plays.TakeThisOut@withmorons.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:44:44 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
> <"Reggie is Here "@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>HK wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh, there's a plan in some detail already, and I am sure those details
>>> will be released this summer. But, until there is assurance of a strong
>>> Democratic majority in the House and Senate, all it is is a plan.
>>
>>Harry,
>>It must be great to be in the know about important Democratic issues.
>>You must be a very important person.
>
> There are no "details" - just bull.

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(Msg. 32) Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:33 pm
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"Jim" <jim.TakeThisOut@boatnet.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Plays With Morons" <plays.TakeThisOut@withmorons.com> wrote in message
> news:u9qi645daq7vr4f30i0crspupa95cgf80l@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:44:44 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
>> <"Reggie is Here "@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>HK wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh, there's a plan in some detail already, and I am sure those details
>>>> will be released this summer. But, until there is assurance of a strong
>>>> Democratic majority in the House and Senate, all it is is a plan.
>>>
>>>Harry,
>>>It must be great to be in the know about important Democratic issues.
>>>You must be a very important person.
>>
>> There are no "details" - just bull.
>
>
> http://i25.tinypic.com/14qyhw.jpg this link works enjoy

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(Msg. 33) Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:33 pm
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"Jim" <jim DeleteThis @boatnet.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Plays With Morons" <plays DeleteThis @withmorons.com> wrote in message
> news:u9qi645daq7vr4f30i0crspupa95cgf80l@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:44:44 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
>> <"Reggie is Here "@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>HK wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh, there's a plan in some detail already, and I am sure those details
>>>> will be released this summer. But, until there is assurance of a strong
>>>> Democratic majority in the House and Senate, all it is is a plan.
>>>
>>>Harry,
>>>It must be great to be in the know about important Democratic issues.
>>>You must be a very important person.
>>
>> There are no "details" - just bull.
>
>
> http://i25.tinypic.com/14qyhw.jpg this link works enjoy
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:27 am
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email DeleteThis @swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:36:44 -0700 (PDT),
> justwaitafrekinminute DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Jun 30, 9:19 pm, "dvus" <d... DeleteThis @dvenator.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> HK wrote:
>>> > John H. wrote:
>>> >> Solving problems is not part of the liberal agenda. Buying votes
>>> >> with income redistribution is their *whole* agenda.
>>>
>>> > Herring, who doesn't work for a living, listened to Rush today.
>>>
>>> Rush! Great band. I listened to them last week. 'Course, I don't work
>>> for a
>>> living anymore either, so I have time for the fun things now.
>>>
>>> --
>>> dvus
>>
>>So here I am talking to my 80 yo neighbor today and she has recently
>>found that she loves Jazz and Fusion.. She is smitten with Eric
>>Clapton, and had never heard of Layla till recently. Her favorite "old
>>school artist" is Jeff Beck, so I loaned her a couple of albums..
>>Pretty cool.. She was always a cool mom when we were growing up, but
>>she really did shock me today...
>
> Been sharing some of your garden "herbs" huh?
>
> ~~ snerk ~~

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(Msg. 35) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:15 am
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"HK" <payer33859 DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
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> Gene Kearns wrote:
>> http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20080626/ARTICLE/806260336/1002/stormpost
>
> Not to worry; the Republicans have a plan to save the economy:
> Move more jobs overseas, cut taxes for the wealthiest Americans, make sure
> a growing number of Americans don't have health insurance, and don't do a
> damned thing about oil speculators or oil prices.

You forgot, and print more money to devalue the USD.
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:17 am
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"dvus" <doug DeleteThis @dvenator.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> HK wrote:
>> Tim wrote:
>>> On Jun 28, 7:03 pm, HK <payer33... DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote:
>
>>>> The Democratic plans will be revealed right after the fall
>>>> elections, when President-elect Obama meets with the
>>>> *controlling* Democratic majority in the House and Senate.
>>>>
>>> Harry, that statement sounds like Senator Kerry is running for
>>> POTUS again.
>>>
>>> No offense to Kerry or Obama, but the "I've got a plan" line didn't
>>> work very well in the last election, and my opinion may be wrong,
>>> but really doubt it will work well now.
>>
>> There's not much you can do when you have OilBoy in the White House
>> and no real control of the House or Senate. Once there is a
>> responsible party in charge, we'll be able to move the country
>> forward.
>
> I'm not sure that "The Democratic plans will be revealed right after the
> fall elections" is a sound political strategy to encourage people to vote
> for Obama. I think he'll have to do more than try to assure voters he has
> a crackerjack plan hidden up his sleeve.

Democrats are waiting for a new round of toys in crackerjack.
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:23 am
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"HK" <payer33859 DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
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> dvus wrote:
>> HK wrote:
>>> Tim wrote:
>>>> On Jun 28, 7:03 pm, HK <payer33... DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>> The Democratic plans will be revealed right after the fall
>>>>> elections, when President-elect Obama meets with the
>>>>> *controlling* Democratic majority in the House and Senate.
>>>>>
>>>> Harry, that statement sounds like Senator Kerry is running for
>>>> POTUS again.
>>>>
>>>> No offense to Kerry or Obama, but the "I've got a plan" line didn't
>>>> work very well in the last election, and my opinion may be wrong,
>>>> but really doubt it will work well now.
>>>
>>> There's not much you can do when you have OilBoy in the White House
>>> and no real control of the House or Senate. Once there is a
>>> responsible party in charge, we'll be able to move the country
>>> forward.
>>
>> I'm not sure that "The Democratic plans will be revealed right after the
>> fall elections" is a sound political strategy to encourage people to vote
>> for Obama. I think he'll have to do more than try to assure voters he has
>> a crackerjack plan hidden up his sleeve.
>
>
> Oh, there's a plan in some detail already, and I am sure those details
> will be released this summer. But, until there is assurance of a strong
> Democratic majority in the House and Senate, all it is is a plan.
>
> McCain's plan is for the free market system to make the rich richer, and
> the middle class homeless.

First, I will state I am biased. And a right republican, perhaps even with
a good dose of libertarian. Maybe outright libertarian. And I have spent
about 10 years living in the US, and another year overseas.

But socialism is no panacea. And bigger democratic governments is the last
thing the US needs right now. I live in Canada, and the number one
constraint on wealth is government taxes. And our government represents
more than 50% increase on GDP than the US and our pay cheques are generally
lower and taxed more. Democrats are our version of the liberals-left, they
promise a lot but remember there is a price to pay.

Oh, we don't "pay" for health care (Canada). We line up for it and get a
whooping tax bill. My mother had to wait 14 months for a routine cataract
operation. My sister, 3 months for appendicitis. I had a minor operation,
but critical to address early and was told a 16 month wait. Until I told
the regional health authority, the rationing organization that I would have
to cease work. I was in 2 weeks. You are best judged on current and future
tax potential. There is only one service provider in Canada.

As government gets too big, it takes on a life of it's own. No longer of
the people, by the people but for control of the people. Canadians are
generally oblivious to this, after all our government owns, subsidizes and
operates our largest national television and radio stations, the CBC.
Selling the benefits of big government, but often hides or trivializes the
warts.

JFK said it right, ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what
you can do for your country. Americans need to think long and hard on how
they want to see government. Big government views people as Matrix
plug-ins. Do you want that? Just be another sheep? What is more important
to your senator or congress representatives, a back door deal or what is
right for the people? This vision seems to be lacking in all of North
America as we all fight for the same piece of dwindling cheese.

Look back at the turn of the century and back into the late 1800's. The US
citizen had less government per capita, yet the birth of a nation in full
plume, and birth of the worlds largest middle class. Which by my guess
peeked in about 1965 or so. When "printing fiat currency" became a in vogue
as the congress didn't want to pay the bills or pass big government and war
onto the people. This is about big government, and not just US. It is
however one of many pumping testosterone.

Now, with the USD washing out in value pricing pressures increase. I used
to have to spend $1.50 CAD for $1 USD, today I get it for $1 par. I expect
if the government continues it spend out of debt and print more money
policies, the USD, I will get next year this time for 60 to 70 cents. The
US government financial policy is a raving disaster and the liberals (both
republican left and democrats) were all happy to credit card the economy.

And no one dare ask this question in government, as it might start WWW III
in earnest. Look at the countries that have and produce oil. Here is a
high level list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves

Now look down that list. Muslim nations control quite a bit, add some
dictators and closed markets. Combine with explosive China and India
consumption and whamo. You have what I call the cold-economic war and the
US is the target. Libya has some fields where the cost is $1 a barrel out
of the ground. Saudi's are playing DC like a piano.

Why does not big oil go into many of these countries? Big oil is powerless,
they are conduits, not the source. Look at the billions lost in places like
Venezuela as governments confiscated from big oil. Hostile governments
control these areas. And you have myopic CEOs and city mayors pandering
like jack asses against your most secure source, Canada. At least your
leaders didn't get sucked into Kyoto.

There is a reason why investors are cautious about the oil sands. Oil
sands, while a super huge reserve it takes a lot of resources to get it
going. At some point, I do expect a temporary dip in oil prices, but it
will be temporary and designed to upset and bankrupt the secure flow of
"friendly" oil.

I don't buy all the conspiracy hype, but the Bildenberg group I bet knows
what is happening here. The super rich elite knew this was coming and have
already gone.

But I have been watching this unfold like a hawk, and profited by it. I am
also a small capitalist.


Good and simple book, belongs right beside my others, the Hare and the
turtle, 3 pigs etc.
Who Moved My Cheese
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Moved_My_Cheese
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:02 am
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On Jun 30, 9:38 pm, JimH <osu... RemoveThis @oh.rr.com> wrote:
> On Jun 30, 9:33 pm, "Jim" <j... RemoveThis @boatnet.net> wrote:
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> > "Jim" <j... RemoveThis @boatnet.net> wrote in message
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> > >> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:44:44 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
> > >> <"Reggie is Here "@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>HK wrote:
>
> > >>>> Oh, there's a plan in some detail already, and I am sure those details
> > >>>> will be released this summer. But, until there is assurance of a strong
> > >>>> Democratic majority in the House and Senate, all it is is a plan.
>
> > >>>Harry,
> > >>>It must be great to be in the know about important Democratic issues.
> > >>>You must be a very important person.
>
> > >> There are no "details" - just bull.
>
> > >http://i25.tinypic.com/14qyhw.jpg this link works   enjoy
>
> Yet another example of a post from a great contributor to this NG.- Hide quoted text -
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:35 am
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On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 00:27:10 -0300, "Don White"
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>
>"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email.RemoveThis@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:36:44 -0700 (PDT),
>> justwaitafrekinminute.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Jun 30, 9:19 pm, "dvus" <d....RemoveThis@dvenator.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>> HK wrote:
>>>> > John H. wrote:
>>>> >> Solving problems is not part of the liberal agenda. Buying votes
>>>> >> with income redistribution is their *whole* agenda.
>>>>
>>>> > Herring, who doesn't work for a living, listened to Rush today.
>>>>
>>>> Rush! Great band. I listened to them last week. 'Course, I don't work
>>>> for a
>>>> living anymore either, so I have time for the fun things now.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> dvus
>>>
>>>So here I am talking to my 80 yo neighbor today and she has recently
>>>found that she loves Jazz and Fusion.. She is smitten with Eric
>>>Clapton, and had never heard of Layla till recently. Her favorite "old
>>>school artist" is Jeff Beck, so I loaned her a couple of albums..
>>>Pretty cool.. She was always a cool mom when we were growing up, but
>>>she really did shock me today...
>>
>> Been sharing some of your garden "herbs" huh?
>>
>> ~~ snerk ~~
>
>The poor old lady must live downwind of his house.

ROTFL!!!!
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:35 am
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email RemoveThis @swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 00:27:10 -0300, "Don White"
> <whited RemoveThis @ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
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>>
>>"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email RemoveThis @swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
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>>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:36:44 -0700 (PDT),
>>> justwaitafrekinminute RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Jun 30, 9:19 pm, "dvus" <d... RemoveThis @dvenator.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> HK wrote:
>>>>> > John H. wrote:
>>>>> >> Solving problems is not part of the liberal agenda. Buying votes
>>>>> >> with income redistribution is their *whole* agenda.
>>>>>
>>>>> > Herring, who doesn't work for a living, listened to Rush today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rush! Great band. I listened to them last week. 'Course, I don't work
>>>>> for a
>>>>> living anymore either, so I have time for the fun things now.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> dvus
>>>>
>>>>So here I am talking to my 80 yo neighbor today and she has recently
>>>>found that she loves Jazz and Fusion.. She is smitten with Eric
>>>>Clapton, and had never heard of Layla till recently. Her favorite "old
>>>>school artist" is Jeff Beck, so I loaned her a couple of albums..
>>>>Pretty cool.. She was always a cool mom when we were growing up, but
>>>>she really did shock me today...
>>>
>>> Been sharing some of your garden "herbs" huh?
>>>
>>> ~~ snerk ~~
>>
>>The poor old lady must live downwind of his house.
>
> ROTFL!!!!


Oh oh...your little buddy is gonna be mad at you now!
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