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andy barnes

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:41 am
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Hi I have a ford sabre 80 hp and when I use it the temp goes up to 90c
after 1 hour running is this dangerous.If so what can I do.The water in the
header tank does not seem as hot as the gauge is saying and engine does not
seem that hot.
regards Andy

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Tony Brooks

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:40 am
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"andy barnes" <andy.TakeThisOut@barnesandy.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > Hi I have a ford sabre 80 hp and when I use it the temp goes up to 90c
 > after 1 hour running is this dangerous.If so what can I do.The water in
the
 > header tank does not seem as hot as the gauge is saying and engine does
not
 > seem that hot.
 > regards Andy
 >
 >

Temperature gauge sender units are not the most reliable, but if we leave
the question of gauge accuracy aside that temperature is within the expected
range for a marinised automotive unit with a sealed cooling system (Heat
exchanger or keel cooler).

If this is raw water cooled the its about 20 degrees too high because it
will salt/fur up the internal galleries if the temperature goes much above
70 degrees, but it is not a very good idea to convert automotive units to
direct cooling.

Temperature gauges and sender units generally have to be matched, so fitting
"just any" sender may or may not give accurate readings. If there is a name
on the gauge or instrument pannel, contact them if you want to try a new
sender unit.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 4:40 am
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I have Mermaids which are pretty much the same and they run at 90 degrees C
all the time, thats the correct running temperature!


"andy barnes" <andy.DeleteThis@barnesandy.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > Hi I have a ford sabre 80 hp and when I use it the temp goes up to 90c
 > after 1 hour running is this dangerous.If so what can I do.The water in
 > the
 > header tank does not seem as hot as the gauge is saying and engine does
 > not
 > seem that hot.
 > regards Andy
 >
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:37 pm
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cheers guys you have put my mind at rest as i am new to inboards.
regards Andy
"andy barnes" <andy DeleteThis @barnesandy.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > Hi I have a ford sabre 80 hp and when I use it the temp goes up to 90c
 > after 1 hour running is this dangerous.If so what can I do.The water in
the
 > header tank does not seem as hot as the gauge is saying and engine does
not
 > seem that hot.
 > regards Andy
 >
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:29 pm
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Hi Andy,

As President of B.C. Marine Pumps we see this every week. If you have a
rubber impeller pump the impeller should be changed even though it looks
fine. If you have a rubber impeller pump pumping your anti-freeze you
should remove it as the top operating temperature is 180F, then the rubber
fails.

Anyway, if you don't get the proper answer on here let me know.

Harv

"andy barnes" <andy.RemoveThis@barnesandy.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > Hi I have a ford sabre 80 hp and when I use it the temp goes up to 90c
 > after 1 hour running is this dangerous.If so what can I do.The water in
the
 > header tank does not seem as hot as the gauge is saying and engine does
not
 > seem that hot.
 > regards Andy
 >
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:40 am
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"BCMP" <bcmp.TakeThisOut@paralynx.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > Hi Andy,
 >
 > As President of B.C. Marine Pumps we see this every week. If you have a
 > rubber impeller pump the impeller should be changed even though it looks
 > fine. If you have a rubber impeller pump pumping your anti-freeze you
 > should remove it as the top operating temperature is 180F, then the rubber
 > fails.
 >
 > Anyway, if you don't get the proper answer on here let me know.
 >
 > Harv
 >

Please, please do not make this type of post without qualifying it in
respect of the type of cooling system. It will only scare potential
customers.

Whilst you are absolutely correct IF the engine is using a rubber impellor
type engine circulating pump, it is not correct in tha majority of cases. As
the original post was from a UK group, one may answer in respect of UK
practice and for years this has been to marinise such engines as either heat
exchanger or keel/tank cooled, using the original engine pump for engine
water circulation, the rubber impellor pump being used to circulate raw
water.

It is true that a direct cooled engine that has been converted to keel/tank
cooling will probably be using the rubber impellor pump for the main cooling
water, but because of its original configuration it should still be fitted
with the 70C thermostat. (my own boat falls into this catagory, and although
the temperatue gauge stabilises at about 80C (176F) the impellors are very
long lived - not least because the pump has a low lift cam fitted.

For UK boaters you can obtain impellors in either rubber compond or neoprene
for most pumps and one (can't remember which) has a lower operating
temperature.

In fact two of us have contributed to reassure that poster that is probably
as it should be. If we had been wrong the group would soon have told us.

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