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andy barnes

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 9:40 pm
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Please can anyone tell me if tax is going on diesel next year please
Regards Andy

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 7:15 pm
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Nobody knows yet.

Wait until after the election for an announcement. Bad news always comes
after the election.

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"andy barnes" <andy.DeleteThis@barnesandy.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Please can anyone tell me if tax is going on diesel next year please
> Regards Andy
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 5:21 pm
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go to ybw.com and type in red diesel for the full details. They have a
petition against this tax.

"andy barnes" <andy RemoveThis @barnesandy.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Please can anyone tell me if tax is going on diesel next year please
> Regards Andy
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 10:07 pm
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 5:20 pm
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Today, Greedy Gordon is still there with elbows out, sorry hand out - I
guess we are in for a hiding the next four years. Seriously, if the RYA or
anyone else cannot sway this government, HMC or Brussels to keep the
dispensation on marine diesel then my days owning a power boat must be
numbered. I personally use my boat for weekending and coastal fishing. My
recreation and pastime will soon be wrecked by a bunch of faceless
bureaucrats.

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>>"andy barnes" <andy.RemoveThis@barnesandy.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>> Please can anyone tell me if tax is going on diesel next year please
>>> Regards Andy
>
>>go to ybw.com and type in red diesel for the full details. They have a
>>petition against this tax.
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> You aren't going to wait until tomorrow first? Smile
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 11:55 am
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Don't know what all the fuss is about. we don't have to buy diesel, we are playing. the extra cost will mean one less pint in the pub after a day out.

Stop being a drama queen and keep your tears for the road haulage industry.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 3:37 pm
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Think you have it there Nigel. You go ahead and play in the pub - others
explore.

"Nigel" <Nigel.TakeThisOut@reply.to.list.only> wrote in message
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> Don't know what all the fuss is about. we don't have to buy diesel, we are
> playing. the extra cost will mean one less pint in the pub after a day
> out.
>
> Stop being a drama queen and keep your tears for the road haulage
> industry.
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> He never did care for the river, did Montmorency.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 4:25 am
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That was my first response a while ago, but when one thinks some of
these powerboast measure their consumption in gallons per hour (I do
mine in hours per gallon) and they think nothing of working against
wind & tide you can see why some are getting jumpy.

What concerns me is that we will get lumbered with the full
tax/duty/vat as levied on Derv and that goes way above what
harmonisation would require.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 1:49 pm
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 9:39 pm
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In article <1116588335.988528.155020.TakeThisOut@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"brooksa@reading-college.ac.uk" <brooksa.TakeThisOut@reading-college.ac.uk> writes
>That was my first response a while ago, but when one thinks some of
>these powerboast measure their consumption in gallons per hour (I do
>mine in hours per gallon) and they think nothing of working against
>wind & tide you can see why some are getting jumpy.

Mine burns around 1/2 ton per hour Sad

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 6:46 pm
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On 20 May 2005 04:25:36 -0700, "brooksa@reading-college.ac.uk"
<brooksa DeleteThis @reading-college.ac.uk> wrote:

>That was my first response a while ago, but when one thinks some of
>these powerboast measure their consumption in gallons per hour (I do
>mine in hours per gallon) and they think nothing of working against
>wind & tide you can see why some are getting jumpy.
>
Doesn't the Severn class lifeboat use about 100gallons per hour per side?
I know they are the richest charity but it would seriously affect them.

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 3:37 am
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My understanding is that it is only leisure use that will get taxed, so
non-commercial boating, off roading, tank driving etc will all get
taxed. Farmers, fishermen (don't know about the charter boats though),
and I am sure the RNLI stays as it is.

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 4:41 pm
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"Marshall Rice" <Marshall DeleteThis @marshallricebin.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <1116588335.988528.155020 DeleteThis @g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "brooksa@reading-college.ac.uk" <brooksa DeleteThis @reading-college.ac.uk> writes
>>That was my first response a while ago, but when one thinks some of
>>these powerboast measure their consumption in gallons per hour (I do
>>mine in hours per gallon) and they think nothing of working against
>>wind & tide you can see why some are getting jumpy.
>
> Mine burns around 1/2 ton per hour Sad
>
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> (Put the bin out to email me)

Spent the last 25 yrs working my way up from 16ft to a 33ft boat. I have two
350 hp engines. A coastal fishing trip 1.5 hrs each way burns say 110 ltrs
that is say 15miles each way / 20 knots. A full day of 12 hrs say 45 miles
each way engine used whole time (wrecking) uses 420 ltrs. I do not race, the
boat is capable of 30 knots - each boat has its optimum speed vs economy.
Regret labours tax regime is getting into every corner of our lives. If we
harmonise our fuel prices with the EU they will come down and marine diesel
may be bearable - just. However prefer to see things remain as they are.
If we harmonise to UK road fuel prices there will be a lot of cheap boats
about.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:49 pm
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The tax will almost certainly only apply to pleasure boats. How about
running on heating oil? Not much difference in spec'.
To solve all our problems we only need to leave the EU that we never voted
for.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:34 am
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In article <42b1ad7f$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>, Peter
<peterf.zipcaplen.TakeThisOut@homecall.co.uk> writes
>The tax will almost certainly only apply to pleasure boats. How about
>running on heating oil? Not much difference in spec'.

It will be illegal, just as running your car on the stuff would be.

>To solve all our problems we only need to leave the EU that we never voted
>for.

At the moment it looks as though we'll still be able to run on anything
we like outside EU territorial waters. Perhaps the answer is to fit two
tanks, one for taxed diesel for use in territorial waters and the other
for chip oil/heating oil/red diesel purchased abroad, for use in
international waters.
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