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Since: Aug 03, 2004 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:22 pm
Post subject: Which Jetski? Archived from groups: rec>sport>jetski (more info?)
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Sorry for the general question but I've been looking through Google
and can't find a recent recommendation for a newbie. I'm looking at
getting my first jetski and need some purchasing advice.
I've never jetski'd before but we recently got a cottage so I thought
it would be fun. I'm a bigger guy so I would imagine I should stick
to at least 100hp to get me around. The jetski would be used
primarily on a smaller lake but my buddy has a house on Lake Ontario
so I would probably end up there a few times over the course of the
summer. I'm looking for something that will be fun for myself
primarily but my wife might try it on a few occasions.
In the autotrader (www.trader.ca), there were a couple of 96/97 Sea
Doo XP's that seem to suit the requirements. There was also a Yamaha
and a Kawasaki. If anyone has a general recommendations on a used
jetski that would be : a) fun, b) relatively inexpensive, c)
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Since: Jun 24, 2003 Posts: 20
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:35 am
Post subject: Re: Which Jetski? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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In article <1500h05ad069sovo8vdcbvq2elu4uatevt DeleteThis @4ax.com>,
Je <je DeleteThis @ald.com> wrote:
>Sorry for the general question but I've been looking through Google
>and can't find a recent recommendation for a newbie. I'm looking at
>getting my first jetski and need some purchasing advice.
Je, for good discussions of this topic (and plenty of partisan advice!)
try <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pwctoday.com" target="_blank">www.pwctoday.com</a> The FOrum message boards and terrific.
>I've never jetski'd before but we recently got a cottage so I thought
>it would be fun.
Oh, it is that! :^)
>I'm a bigger guy so I would imagine I should stick
>to at least 100hp to get me around. The jetski would be used
>primarily on a smaller lake but my buddy has a house on Lake Ontario
>so I would probably end up there a few times over the course of the
>summer. I'm looking for something that will be fun for myself
>primarily but my wife might try it on a few occasions.
OK, first thing - it's not just the HP that is important - it's the
size of the hull. You say you're a larger guy. Well, our best friend
is 6'3" and 250 + lbs. When he rides our Polaris SLH, he literally
capsizes the d*mn thing getting on it. :^)
So, a "two seater" usually means "only one person can ride it comfortably,
and if you're large, maybe not even you." I'd say that you should be
looking for a three seater. Advantages: easier for two-up riding with
your wife, legal for towing (two seaters generally are not), and more
stable for novices and deep water boarding.
>In the autotrader (www.trader.ca), there were a couple of 96/97 Sea
>Doo XP's that seem to suit the requirements. There was also a Yamaha
>and a Kawasaki. If anyone has a general recommendations on a used
>jetski that would be : a) fun, b) relatively inexpensive, c)
>make/model, I would really appreciate it.
Again, take a look at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pwctoday.com" target="_blank">www.pwctoday.com</a> Lots of opinions, a searchable
database, good discussions. Since we've been on the boards, we've
picked up several generalities:
1) Sea-Doo has higher sales, and lots of problems. Whether that's a function
of sheer numbers on the market vs. higher flaws than average
is hotly debated. Personally, I wouldn't buy one unless it was 2000+
model year, and maybe not even then.
2) Most of the rental yards we used from 1995-2003 rented Yamahas. We
constantly heard "bulletproof" as a descriptor of the brand. That said,
we bought a Polaris and a Kawasaki. :^) Our best friend and my
brother-in-law have both bought two Hondas each. Taste and
preferences are highly individual. Take any strong opinion with a
grain of salt.
3) Consider who will be doing the maintenance and service. If you buy
a Kawi, and there are no dealers nearby, it might be an exercise
in frustration.
4) The big debate in recent years has been two stroke vs. four stroke.
We have one of each. The two stroke is simple, easier to do
self-maintenance on, and cheaper. The four stroke is better emissions,
and thus allowed on most bodies of water, even Lake Tahoe. It's
also much more expensive to buy. You should make sure that your likely
lakes allow two strokes before buying one. It would be a shame to spend
several thousand dollars on something you can't ride easily.
5) To get an idea of reasonable used prices, there is boattraderonline.com
Fun place to browse.
Good luck, and let us know what you decide!
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Since: Jul 31, 2003 Posts: 18
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:48 am
Post subject: Re: Which Jetski? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I owned an XP, liked the ski, but it was not stable at all when stopped or
boarding. Its more of a performance machine compared to something like a GTI
or GTX...I have an older Polaris, a 97 slt 700, anda 2003 GTI. I find them
more stable, not nearly as fast as the XP, but it all depends on what you
want, go fast, or go in comfort.lol...and like Sandi said, 2 seaters are
good for one person, 3 for 2....The Yamaha Waverunners are stable,not real
fast, but overall a good machine...
<sandi-k.RemoveThis@socrates.Berkeley.EDU> wrote in message
news:cep3v0$hua$1@agate.berkeley.edu...
> In article <1500h05ad069sovo8vdcbvq2elu4uatevt.RemoveThis@4ax.com>,
> Je <je.RemoveThis@ald.com> wrote:
> >Sorry for the general question but I've been looking through Google
> >and can't find a recent recommendation for a newbie. I'm looking at
> >getting my first jetski and need some purchasing advice.
>
> Je, for good discussions of this topic (and plenty of partisan advice!)
> try <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pwctoday.com" target="_blank">www.pwctoday.com</a> The FOrum message boards and terrific.
>
> >I've never jetski'd before but we recently got a cottage so I thought
> >it would be fun.
>
> Oh, it is that! :^)
>
> >I'm a bigger guy so I would imagine I should stick
> >to at least 100hp to get me around. The jetski would be used
> >primarily on a smaller lake but my buddy has a house on Lake Ontario
> >so I would probably end up there a few times over the course of the
> >summer. I'm looking for something that will be fun for myself
> >primarily but my wife might try it on a few occasions.
>
> OK, first thing - it's not just the HP that is important - it's the
> size of the hull. You say you're a larger guy. Well, our best friend
> is 6'3" and 250 + lbs. When he rides our Polaris SLH, he literally
> capsizes the d*mn thing getting on it. :^)
>
> So, a "two seater" usually means "only one person can ride it comfortably,
> and if you're large, maybe not even you." I'd say that you should be
> looking for a three seater. Advantages: easier for two-up riding with
> your wife, legal for towing (two seaters generally are not), and more
> stable for novices and deep water boarding.
>
> >In the autotrader (www.trader.ca), there were a couple of 96/97 Sea
> >Doo XP's that seem to suit the requirements. There was also a Yamaha
> >and a Kawasaki. If anyone has a general recommendations on a used
> >jetski that would be : a) fun, b) relatively inexpensive, c)
> >make/model, I would really appreciate it.
>
> Again, take a look at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pwctoday.com" target="_blank">www.pwctoday.com</a> Lots of opinions, a searchable
> database, good discussions. Since we've been on the boards, we've
> picked up several generalities:
>
> 1) Sea-Doo has higher sales, and lots of problems. Whether that's a
function
> of sheer numbers on the market vs. higher flaws than average
> is hotly debated. Personally, I wouldn't buy one unless it was 2000+
> model year, and maybe not even then.
> 2) Most of the rental yards we used from 1995-2003 rented Yamahas. We
> constantly heard "bulletproof" as a descriptor of the brand. That
said,
> we bought a Polaris and a Kawasaki. :^) Our best friend and my
> brother-in-law have both bought two Hondas each. Taste and
> preferences are highly individual. Take any strong opinion with a
> grain of salt.
> 3) Consider who will be doing the maintenance and service. If you buy
> a Kawi, and there are no dealers nearby, it might be an exercise
> in frustration.
> 4) The big debate in recent years has been two stroke vs. four stroke.
> We have one of each. The two stroke is simple, easier to do
> self-maintenance on, and cheaper. The four stroke is better emissions,
> and thus allowed on most bodies of water, even Lake Tahoe. It's
> also much more expensive to buy. You should make sure that your likely
> lakes allow two strokes before buying one. It would be a shame to
spend
> several thousand dollars on something you can't ride easily.
> 5) To get an idea of reasonable used prices, there is boattraderonline.com
> Fun place to browse.
>
> Good luck, and let us know what you decide!
>
> Sandi
>
>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:42 am
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Thank you both for your two excellent responses!
I didn't know about the other forum so I'll have some serious reading
to do today.
Thanks again guys!
On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 01:48:22 GMT, "Rodger" <rcooper.TakeThisOut@cancom.net> wrote:
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Since: Aug 06, 2003 Posts: 12
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:26 pm
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The 97 xp is really harder to board for larger people, especially beginners
And forget about riding 2 at once on that hull.
It is quite difficult even for experianced riders to ride 2-up.
Try a 3 seater, say a '96 GTI or GTX.
The 720 and 787 engines are very good and dependable.
The SeaDoo bashers claim that they have probs, but that is because
they're jealous
Je <je.TakeThisOut@ald.com> wrote in message news:<eaf1h0pgpnviv5g2218172k0jaat8fk1f7.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>...
> Thank you both for your two excellent responses!
> I didn't know about the other forum so I'll have some serious reading
> to do today.
>
> Thanks again guys!
>
> On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 01:48:22 GMT, "Rodger" <rcooper.TakeThisOut@cancom.net> wrote:
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> >good stuff snipped>>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:14 pm
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I think the GTX will suit my needs just fine. Now off to the used
ads. They look a bit more ($6-7K CDN @ <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.trader.ca" target="_blank">www.trader.ca</a>) but hopefully
this will last a long time.
On 4 Aug 2004 09:26:43 -0700, cmarch.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com (Chris) wrote:
>The 97 xp is really harder to board for larger people, especially beginners
> And forget about riding 2 at once on that hull.
> It is quite difficult even for experianced riders to ride 2-up.
>
> Try a 3 seater, say a '96 GTI or GTX.
>
> The 720 and 787 engines are very good and dependable.
> The SeaDoo bashers claim that they have probs, but that is because
> they're jealous
>
>
>Je <je.TakeThisOut@ald.com> wrote in message news:<eaf1h0pgpnviv5g2218172k0jaat8fk1f7.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>...
>> Thank you both for your two excellent responses!
>> I didn't know about the other forum so I'll have some serious reading
>> to do today.
>>
>> Thanks again guys!
>>
>> On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 01:48:22 GMT, "Rodger" <rcooper.TakeThisOut@cancom.net> wrote:
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>> >good stuff snipped>>
>> ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Which Jetski? |
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Since: Aug 05, 2004 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 5:13 am
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Je wrote:
> I've never jetski'd before but we recently got a cottage so I thought
> it would be fun. I'm a bigger guy so I would imagine I should stick
> to at least 100hp to get me around. The jetski would be used
> primarily on a smaller lake but my buddy has a house on Lake Ontario
> so I would probably end up there a few times over the course of the
> summer. I'm looking for something that will be fun for myself
> primarily but my wife might try it on a few occasions.
I'm 6'7" and 250 lbs and I have a Seadoo GTS, it's only got 65 HP but is a 3
seater that is large and stable. It will do 39 mph flat out, which is fine
for me.
> In the autotrader (www.trader.ca), there were a couple of 96/97 Sea
> Doo XP's that seem to suit the requirements. There was also a Yamaha
> and a Kawasaki. If anyone has a general recommendations on a used
> jetski that would be : a) fun, b) relatively inexpensive, c)
> make/model, I would really appreciate it.
XP's will be difficult for a large person to remount in the water. My 3
seater is very easy to remount in the water due to it's 465 lb dry heft and
wide hull. I Recommend a 3 seater. If you want something faster, get a
Seadoo GTX 951 or a Kawasaki STX1200, or a Yamaha XL1200, it should be
plenty fast. With some performance mods they can get over 60mph.
laters,
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