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Barry

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 6:16 pm
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Hello,
This has probably been flogged to death but I am going to ask anyway.

What is the formula for calculating boat speed?

From memory the propeller pitch, engine rpm a reduction for slippage and a
couple of other things are needed.

I did have the formula on the computer but a recent crash of the system
caused it to be "misplaced"

Many thanks..

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Peter Aitken

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 12:28 am
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"Woodchuck" wrote in message

> For me, it works very well as my props have about 8% to 10% slip and it's
> verified by GPS. But then again I'm running a hi-performance boat over
> 100mph. The props I have are Mercury stainless steel lab cleavers. Most
> average consumer props have alot 15% slip for stainless steel and near 20%
> for aluminum. The calculation provides a good starting point when you
> want to change pitch, RPM, mph, etc

No one has asked the obvious question - why would anyone want to calculate
boat speed this way?

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Wayne.B

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 12:29 am
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On Sun, 8 May 2005 20:38:12 -0700, "frosty" wrote:

>Does the hull impact the efficiency of the propeller?
>
>That is, if a certain motor with a certain propeller pushes
>a fiberglass boat at 90% efficiency, will that same motor/
>prop drop to 85% (say) efficiency behind a pontoon boat?
>
>Or, would it just turn that much slower, at the same
>efficiency?

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Both. A heavier or less efficient hull will have more drag
(resistance through the water). This will result in more prop
slippage, and the torque required at the prop will increase causing
the engine to develop lower RPMs at the same throttle setting.
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Peter Aitken

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 1:22 pm
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"tony thomas" wrote in message

> 1. If you are wanting to know what a different prop will do for your
> speed. Most know that a 2" pitch change will be about 300 rpms.
> 2. If you want to know how accurate your speedo is. I have found that
> most aluminum props are about 85% efficient. Performance SS is about 90%.
> A High performance prop like a Merc Lab, Mazco, etc.. are about 92%.
>
> These are just examples. I use the formula all the time. When someone
> says they have a 150hp engine that is turning 5500 rpms w/ a 22 pitch prop
> and running 80 mph you know they are lying. 61.27 is theoritical and w/ a
> good prop at 90% they would be at 55 mph.
> Now a lot of speedometers will show 80 mph. Without a GPS the formula is
> the only way to really know.
>
> --

I understand, but it still seems to me that the prop slippage is the real
unknown. If you change props then your top RPM will change too, right? If
you put more or less weight on the boat, or clean the hull, then things will
change too. With handheld GPS so cheap it seems strange to me to use an iffy
formulas to calculate speed.


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Peter Aitken

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 11:45 am
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"tony thomas" wrote in message

> Prop slippage is the real unknown if you have measured everything else.
> However, as Barry stated he wanted to verify that his slippage was in an
> acceptable range. No other way to do it than the formula.
>
> --

Yes, that makes perfect sense.



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Harry.Krause

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 3:07 pm
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On Sat, 7 May 2005 18:16:37 +1000, "Barry"
wrote:

>Hello,
>This has probably been flogged to death but I am going to ask anyway.

Put a speedometer on your boat, or use a GPS.

I used a GPS to find out my driveway is 3.2 miles long.
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