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Ytter1

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:26 am
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I want to build a new ice box with Adler/Barbour coolmatic .Do you know any
books or web sides that would give me instructions what material to use and
how to build it.
Thank You ,Ytter

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Glenn Ashmore

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:15 pm
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There are several books. Calder's book is good but more about theory
and building the whole system. Richard Coleman has an excelent down to
earth book on DIY yacht refrigeration but it is more on building the
entire system, maintaining and servicing it. Weems & Plath publishes
(or did at one time) a good basic book on box construction called "The
Perfect Box: 39 ways to improve your boat's ice box." Lot of good
basic information on materials and methods and very little on the
refrigeration mechanics.

Ytter wrote:

 > I want to build a new ice box with Adler/Barbour coolmatic .Do you know any
 > books or web sides that would give me instructions what material to use and
 > how to build it.
 > Thank You ,Ytter
 >
 >

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MMC1

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:21 pm
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Yttr,
Daniel Spurr's "Upgrading the Cruising Sailboat" has a good detailed
description for building an ice box using 4 inches of urethane foam. When I
built my 32 Traveler interior I followed this and the box came out nice, but
small.
If I were to do it again, especially with refrigeration, I'd use 2 inches of
foam.
The book "Upgrading the Cruising Sailboat" is well worth the cost for anyone
working on an old boat, lots of good info. My copy is from 1983.
Another good book is "This Old Boat". My copy was borrowed about 10 years
ago!
If you want I can scan the section on ice boxes and send to you directly.
MMC
"Ytter" <katskradle.DeleteThis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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 > I want to build a new ice box with Adler/Barbour coolmatic .Do you know
any
 > books or web sides that would give me instructions what material to use
and
 > how to build it.
 > Thank You ,Ytter
 >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Richard Kollmann

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 7:24 pm
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If you are planning 12 volt refrigeration see the slide show on my web
site " What Works and What Does not"
There is now a technical Forum also on my web site at;
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.kollmann-marine.com" target="_blank">http://www.kollmann-marine.com</a>
Much of the information for my books on boat refrigeration comes from
repairing systems and answering E mail questions about mobile
refrigeration. Every five years I have updated these books from the
information collected. As technical books need to be revised more
often than five years, my web site helps keep technical information on
refrigeration up dated. I hope this new Refrigeration Forum will help
with the exchange of current information about refrigeration and
problem solving.



"Ytter" <katskradle DeleteThis @sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<UuxEc.77519$Ax1.725083@news20.bellglobal.com>...
 > I want to build a new ice box with Adler/Barbour coolmatic .Do you know any
 > books or web sides that would give me instructions what material to use and
 > how to build it.
 > Thank You ,Ytter<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Gordon Wedman

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 7:56 pm
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I think Nigel Calder's new "Cruising Handbook" has a section on building a
good box. His other book that is specifically on refrigeration is good for
refrigeration mechanics.
Ferenc Mate may also discuss building an box in "Finely Fitted Yacht" but
I'm not sure.
I would consider vacuum panels if building from scratch.

"Ytter" <katskradle.RemoveThis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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 > I want to build a new ice box with Adler/Barbour coolmatic .Do you know
any
 > books or web sides that would give me instructions what material to use
and
 > how to build it.
 > Thank You ,Ytter
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Glenn Ashmore

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:24 am
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Hey Richard. Have you seen this? <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.avxcel.com/tropikool.html" target="_blank">http://www.avxcel.com/tropikool.html</a>

Looks like it has potential because the technology has been used for a
long time in spot cooling IR telescopes and space vehicles. Main thing
they have done is add a CO2 heat pipe to distribute the cooling but when
I called they could not give me any COPE, BTU/hr or other hard facts.
Probably not ready for prime time but looks interesting.

Richard Kollmann wrote:
 > If you are planning 12 volt refrigeration see the slide show on my web
 > site " What Works and What Does not"
 > There is now a technical Forum also on my web site at;
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.kollmann-marine.com</font" target="_blank">http://www.kollmann-marine.com</font</a>>
 > Much of the information for my books on boat refrigeration comes from
 > repairing systems and answering E mail questions about mobile
 > refrigeration. Every five years I have updated these books from the
 > information collected. As technical books need to be revised more
 > often than five years, my web site helps keep technical information on
 > refrigeration up dated. I hope this new Refrigeration Forum will help
 > with the exchange of current information about refrigeration and
 > problem solving.
 >
 >
 >
 > "Ytter" <katskradle.DeleteThis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<UuxEc.77519$Ax1.725083@news20.bellglobal.com>...
 >
  >>I want to build a new ice box with Adler/Barbour coolmatic .Do you know any
  >>books or web sides that would give me instructions what material to use and
  >>how to build it.
  >>Thank You ,Ytter

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.rutuonline.com" target="_blank">http://www.rutuonline.com</a>
Shameless Commercial Division: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.spade-anchor-us.com" target="_blank">http://www.spade-anchor-us.com</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Jim Richardson

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:55 am
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:24:03 -0400,
Glenn Ashmore <gashmore3.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote:
<font color=purple> > Hey Richard. Have you seen this? <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.avxcel.com/tropikool.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.avxcel.com/tropikool.html</font</a>>
 >
 > Looks like it has potential because the technology has been used for a
 > long time in spot cooling IR telescopes and space vehicles. Main thing
 > they have done is add a CO2 heat pipe to distribute the cooling but when
 > I called they could not give me any COPE, BTU/hr or other hard facts.
 > Probably not ready for prime time but looks interesting.
 >

Generally speaking, Stirling cycle chillers aren't as efficient as a
Rankine cycle (phase change.) But they do allow you to get to a much lower
temperature.

Fewer parts most likely though, and (possibly) quieter operation. But
that's pure supposition.

 > Richard Kollmann wrote:
  >> If you are planning 12 volt refrigeration see the slide show on my web
  >> site " What Works and What Does not"
  >> There is now a technical Forum also on my web site at;
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.kollmann-marine.com</font" target="_blank">http://www.kollmann-marine.com</font</a>>
  >> Much of the information for my books on boat refrigeration comes from
  >> repairing systems and answering E mail questions about mobile
  >> refrigeration. Every five years I have updated these books from the
  >> information collected. As technical books need to be revised more
  >> often than five years, my web site helps keep technical information on
  >> refrigeration up dated. I hope this new Refrigeration Forum will help
  >> with the exchange of current information about refrigeration and
  >> problem solving.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> "Ytter" <katskradle.TakeThisOut@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<UuxEc.77519$Ax1.725083@news20.bellglobal.com>...
  >>
   >>>I want to build a new ice box with Adler/Barbour coolmatic .Do you know any
   >>>books or web sides that would give me instructions what material to use and
   >>>how to build it.
   >>>Thank You ,Ytter
 >


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Richard Kollmann

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:33 pm
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Glen, Interesting claims and a nice internet web site. R and D today
must mean go out there and find something, then let the consumer see
if it will work in his application. As I have posted before I hope the
new product meets the test. The boaters that ask me for
recommendations are normally blue water cruisers and they need
equipment that has proven reliability in a marine application. To pass
my test the components used must have exceeded 100,000 accumulative
hours and the failure rate must not to exceed 0.5 per one thousand
hours in a marine aplication.


Jim Richardson <warlock.RemoveThis@eskimo.com> wrote in message news:<n50dr1-a67.ln1.RemoveThis@grendel.myth>...
 > On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:24:03 -0400,
 > Glenn Ashmore <gashmore3.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote:
<font color=green>  > > Hey Richard. Have you seen this? <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.avxcel.com/tropikool.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.avxcel.com/tropikool.html</font</a>>
  > >
  > > Looks like it has potential because the technology has been used for a
  > > long time in spot cooling IR telescopes and space vehicles. Main thing
  > > they have done is add a CO2 heat pipe to distribute the cooling but when
  > > I called they could not give me any COPE, BTU/hr or other hard facts.
  > > Probably not ready for prime time but looks interesting.
  > >
 >
 > Generally speaking, Stirling cycle chillers aren't as efficient as a
 > Rankine cycle (phase change.) But they do allow you to get to a much lower
 > temperature.
 >
 > Fewer parts most likely though, and (possibly) quieter operation. But
 > that's pure supposition.
 >
  > > Richard Kollmann wrote:
   > >> If you are planning 12 volt refrigeration see the slide show on my web
   > >> site " What Works and What Does not"
   > >> There is now a technical Forum also on my web site at;
<font color=brown>   > >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.kollmann-marine.com</font" target="_blank">http://www.kollmann-marine.com</font</a>>
   > >> Much of the information for my books on boat refrigeration comes from
   > >> repairing systems and answering E mail questions about mobile
   > >> refrigeration. Every five years I have updated these books from the
   > >> information collected. As technical books need to be revised more
   > >> often than five years, my web site helps keep technical information on
   > >> refrigeration up dated. I hope this new Refrigeration Forum will help
   > >> with the exchange of current information about refrigeration and
   > >> problem solving.
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >> "Ytter" <katskradle.RemoveThis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<UuxEc.77519$Ax1.725083@news20.bellglobal.com>...
   > >>
   > >>>I want to build a new ice box with Adler/Barbour coolmatic .Do you know any
   > >>>books or web sides that would give me instructions what material to use and
   > >>>how to build it.
   > >>>Thank You ,Ytter
  > ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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