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markvictor

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(Msg. 151) Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:44 pm
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If I might be so naive as to assume the come home power question was
semi-legit,I'll
throw in my two or three cents worth.....On a twin engine boat I have
found that a third shaft,on centerline,works well with a genset PTO or
an auxillary engine...But in a single engine config. such as in many
trawlers,etc.,there are some inherent problems with a wing engine
configuration, most notable is the tendency to yaw excessively making
navigating tedious at best; the exception would be a deep full keeled
hull such as in the Nordhavens, and similar, or boats with fin
stabilization. Otherwise I think the mechanical link to the genset is
more manageable (in open water) but you do sacrifice any close-quarter
control...
The comprimise to this is a third option...a pto driven hydraulic pump,
connected to a hydraulic motor with a similar chain and sprocket
coupling to those used in many genset get home set ups...the advantages
are that with some not too complex plumbing you can retain some
throttle capabilities, as well as directional control. On a side note,
some guys in my area are doing active test and evaluation on a Catalina
36 with an electrical drive, powered by hydrogen fuel cells...on the
surface ,seems like no big deal, but here's the rub... they are
extracting their hydrogen in real-time from seawater,using wind,
photovoltaic, and a water-driven alternator for the hydrogen extraction
energy.
It's not perpetual motion, but close enough to raise a lot of
interest...(takes a lot of interest to get Frank Butler to donate a 36
Catalina for Any purpose) Could have all sorts of interesting
applications..I think they are able to make way at a sustained 5 knots,
and are shooting for 7....stay tuned..
regards,
markvictor

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(Msg. 152) Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:47 pm
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I realize that Smithers.

My question was rhetorical in nature as I am sure you understood.. Wink


"Smithers" <Yes, Smithers is not my real name.> wrote in message
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> JimH,
> Wayne, like all of us, has his biases. He obviously likes Harry or his
> politics, so he gives Harry a ride. I am surprised that he doesn't find
> Harry's political trolls repetitive, but Wayne is using filters the way
> they
> are supposed to be used. He filters out posts he doesn't want to read,
> and
> he very rarely mentions those he has filtered. He never discusses or use
> his "filters" as an avenue to insult others.
>
>
>
> " JimH" <me1.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:2_mdnep0b42zuz_eRVn-pA@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Wayne.B" <waynebatrecdotboats.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:tp84q1leouisekm3b01hu1962tvqeluv2c@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:21:07 -0500, Harry Krause
>>> <harry.krause.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And, of
>>>>course, they behave as they do whether I'm posting or not, so it really
>>>>has little to do with me.
>>>
>>> ======================================
>>>
>>> Not sure I agree with that. At any rate, if you insist on keeping the
>>> ball in play at any cost, perhaps you could cut down the quoted
>>> material to the barest minimum so that I don't accidently run into any
>>> more BS than necessary. Others might appreciate it also.
>>>
>>
>> So why do you tolerate Krause and not others who perhaps contribute more
>> to this NG than he does.?
>>
>
>
>

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Harry Krause

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(Msg. 153) Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:25 pm
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(Msg. 154) Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:33 pm
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Harry,
What do you think about Skippers idea of having a mechanical hookup to the
generator? I am sure when you were making up the story about a dedicated
wing engine you had a review of the benefits of either system. What did
they say?


"Skipper" <fairwinds.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in message
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> Smithers wrote:
>
>> Skipper,
>> What kind of "Get Home Power" would someone put in a 36' boat?
>
> Believe I'd opt for the traditional auxiliary in a sailboat. Harry
> claimed to have a dedicated wing engine in that fab 36-footer, not a
> mechanical hookup to the generator. I simply didn't believe Harry's
> story. Further, It's my thought that there are better options than going
> wing engine for the type of boat Harry claimed to own...and
> particularly, for the type of boating he claims to do.
>
> --
> Skipper
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Harry Krause

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(Msg. 155) Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:42 pm
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(Msg. 156) Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:42 pm
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Harry Krause wrote:

>>> What kind of "Get Home Power" would someone put in a 36' boat?

>> Believe I'd opt for the traditional auxiliary in a sailboat. Harry
>> claimed to have a dedicated wing engine in that fab 36-footer, not a
>> mechanical hookup to the generator. I simply didn't believe Harry's
>> story. Further, It's my thought that there are better options than going
>> wing engine for the type of boat Harry claimed to own...and
>> particularly, for the type of boating he claims to do.

> The very concept of a landlocker like you pretending to have any actual
> expertise whatsoever about saltwater boats transcends absurd.

> It's your "thought there are better systems..." coming from an old
> cripple like you who lives in Derby, Kansas, and knows next to nothing
> about boats that make anyone who does know about boats giggle at your
> ignorance.

> Encountered any sudden-onset Tostitos lately with 30-foot waves crashing
> against the bow of your Bayliner with the strap-on tanks? My guess is
> the only Mexican waters you see are from the cooler at your local Taco Bell.

Man, how Krause bobs and weaves as he avoids this direct boating related
discussion with Skipper. Perhaps he's had his tootsies burned once too
often. Wish he did know a thing or two about 'get homes'. It would have
been interesting...and revealing.

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Smithers

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(Msg. 157) Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:44 pm
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Harry,
I know you don't want to publish pictures of your "Lobster Boat", how about
just a picture of your "Get Home Power"?


"Harry Krause" <harry.krause.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Skipper wrote:
>> Smithers wrote:
>>
>>> Skipper,
>>> What kind of "Get Home Power" would someone put in a 36' boat?
>>
>> Believe I'd opt for the traditional auxiliary in a sailboat. Harry
>> claimed to have a dedicated wing engine in that fab 36-footer, not a
>> mechanical hookup to the generator. I simply didn't believe Harry's
>> story. Further, It's my thought that there are better options than going
>> wing engine for the type of boat Harry claimed to own...and
>> particularly, for the type of boating he claims to do. --
>> Skipper
>
>
> The very concept of a landlocker like you pretending to have any actual
> expertise whatsoever about saltwater boats transcends absurd.
>
> It's your "thought there are better systems..." coming from an old cripple
> like you who lives in Derby, Kansas, and knows next to nothing about boats
> that make anyone who does know about boats giggle at your ignorance.
>
> Encountered any sudden-onset Tostitos lately with 30-foot waves crashing
> against the bow of your Bayliner with the strap-on tanks? My guess is the
> only Mexican waters you see are from the cooler at your local Taco Bell.
>
> Oh...no one knowledgeable about S&W history seems to have ever encountered
> a double-action .357 with a safety as you described. Horace Smith and
> Daniel Wesson are rolling in their graves with that b.s. tale.
>
> Where'd you buy that S&W? Done Mexico way?
>
>
>
> --
> Support our Troops: Bring Them Home Now!
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Harry Krause

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(Msg. 158) Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:51 pm
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Smithers

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(Msg. 159) Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:54 pm
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Harry,
Let me get this straight. You are too scared to discuss your "Get Home
Power", but I am the coward, a liar, and a weasel?


"Harry Krause" <harry.krause DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Smithers wrote:
>> Harry,
>> What do you think about Skippers idea of having a mechanical hookup to
>> the generator? I am sure when you were making up the story about a
>> dedicated wing engine you had a review of the benefits of either system.
>> What did they say?
>>
>
> Skipper's idea? That isn't Skipper's idea. It's an idea with a long
> history. Oh, and Skipper's concept of what system I spec'd a figment of
> his imagination. Despite his begging, I never provided him with details.
>
> AS for the rest of your comment, it is your usual b.s. and requires no
> response.
>
> I note once again that you are a coward, a liar, and a weasel.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Jesus: A Long Haired, Peace Loving, Anti Establishment, Liberal.
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Harry Krause

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(Msg. 160) Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:03 pm
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(Msg. 161) Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:28 am
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Harry,
OK, let me get this straight. You are still too scared to discuss your "Get
Home Power" and you find it best to do a duck and cover by calling me names?


"Harry Krause" <harry.krause.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Smithers wrote:
>> Harry,
>> Let me get this straight. You are too scared to discuss your "Get Home
>> Power", but I am the coward, a liar, and a weasel?
>>
> You're really trying, eh?
> Is there any reason to engage you in any sort of conversation here?
>
> Yeah, you're a coward. Almost every post of yours in this newsgroup is
> your attempt to insult someone, and you don't have the balls to post with
> your real name or to introduce yourself with your real name at a lunch
> meeting you were trying to set up.
>
> You're a coward, hiding behind your the skirts of your fake ID here.
> Amd for good reason. Anyone who posted here what you post here and used a
> real name would get finally offend "the wrong person" and end up getting
> punched in the nose.
>
> It was interesting the other day seeing how many posts you put here here
> "denying" you were a coward. Every single one of those posts confirmed you
> as Yellowstain Smithers.
>
> You don't have the balls to post here with your real name and behave as
> you do. You don't even have the balls to introduce yourself with your real
> name at a meeting you wanted.
>
> You are a pusillanimous pussy.
>
>
>
>
> --
> I'm proud of my country, but appalled by my government.
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(Msg. 162) Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:27 am
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(Msg. 163) Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:27 am
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Harry Krause wrote:

> The home power question from Skipper was not semi-legit, or any sort of
> legit.

Oh, but it was. I must however admit that I knew you'd not engage in a
substantive boating discussion. Your forte seems to be insult, then duck
'n cover. You're quite the mensch, Krause, a true profile in courage.

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(Msg. 164) Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:31 am
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What else would you expect from a NPD sufferer

"Narcissists are (a) extremely sensitive to personal criticism and (b)
extremely critical of other people"

"no matter how gently you suggest that they might do better to change
their ways or get some help, they will react in one of two equally horrible
ways: they will attack or they will withdraw."

"Smithers" <Yes, Smithers is not my real name.> wrote in message
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> Harry,
> OK, let me get this straight. You are still too scared to discuss your
"Get
> Home Power" and you find it best to do a duck and cover by calling me
names?
>
>
> "Harry Krause" <harry.krause RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:40eskeF1a4qppU1@individual.net...
> > Smithers wrote:
> >> Harry,
> >> Let me get this straight. You are too scared to discuss your "Get Home
> >> Power", but I am the coward, a liar, and a weasel?
> >>
> > You're really trying, eh?
> > Is there any reason to engage you in any sort of conversation here?
> >
> > Yeah, you're a coward. Almost every post of yours in this newsgroup is
> > your attempt to insult someone, and you don't have the balls to post
with
> > your real name or to introduce yourself with your real name at a lunch
> > meeting you were trying to set up.
> >
> > You're a coward, hiding behind your the skirts of your fake ID here.
> > Amd for good reason. Anyone who posted here what you post here and used
a
> > real name would get finally offend "the wrong person" and end up getting
> > punched in the nose.
> >
> > It was interesting the other day seeing how many posts you put here here
> > "denying" you were a coward. Every single one of those posts confirmed
you
> > as Yellowstain Smithers.
> >
> > You don't have the balls to post here with your real name and behave as
> > you do. You don't even have the balls to introduce yourself with your
real
> > name at a meeting you wanted.
> >
> > You are a pusillanimous pussy.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > I'm proud of my country, but appalled by my government.
>
>
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(Msg. 165) Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:09 am
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:27:51 -0500, " JimH" <me1 RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:

>
>"Wayne.B" <waynebatrecdotboats RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:tp84q1leouisekm3b01hu1962tvqeluv2c@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:21:07 -0500, Harry Krause
>> <harry.krause RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> And, of
>>>course, they behave as they do whether I'm posting or not, so it really
>>>has little to do with me.
>>
>> ======================================
>>
>> Not sure I agree with that. At any rate, if you insist on keeping the
>> ball in play at any cost, perhaps you could cut down the quoted
>> material to the barest minimum so that I don't accidently run into any
>> more BS than necessary. Others might appreciate it also.
>>
>
>So why do you tolerate Krause and not others who perhaps contribute more to
>this NG than he does.?
>

That's a good question for Wayne to see. Maybe he could encourage Harry to adopt a New Year's
resolution.
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John Herring

Hope your Christmas is Spectacular!
....and your New Year even Better!
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