How 'bout it Krause?

Jim M wrote:

> "William Bruce" <whbruce.TakeThisOut@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>> Hey Krause, my offer stands: Prove to the "reasonable man" standard
>> that (1) you have a degree from Yale, (2) your wife is a medical
>> doctor, and (3) that you own a lobster boat and I'll overnight a
>> $10,000.00 check to the charity of your choice in your name.

>> How 'bout it?

>> William

> Sounds reasonable.

> Harry?

Seems more than reasonable.

Harry?

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Harry,
Darn that is an actual offer. Harry with the Christmas season upon us, why
don't you make a very easy contribution to your favorite charity? The best
part of this charity donation is it cost you nothing.


"Skipper" <fairwinds.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote in message
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> Jim M wrote:
>
>> "William Bruce" <whbruce.TakeThisOut@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>> Hey Krause, my offer stands: Prove to the "reasonable man" standard
>>> that (1) you have a degree from Yale, (2) your wife is a medical
>>> doctor, and (3) that you own a lobster boat and I'll overnight a
>>> $10,000.00 check to the charity of your choice in your name.
>
>>> How 'bout it?
>
>>> William
>
>> Sounds reasonable.
>
>> Harry?
>
> Seems more than reasonable.
>
> Harry?
>
> --
> Skipper
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William Bruce wrote:
> Hey Krause, my offer stands: Prove to the "reasonable man" standard that
> (1) you have a degree from Yale, (2) your wife is a medical doctor, and (3)
> that you own a lobster boat and I'll overnight a $10,000.00 check to the
> charity of your choice in your name.
>
> How 'bout it?
>
> William


(The first step in creating a contract is identifying the parties
involved. Since nobody knows who you are, you might as well promise
$10,000,000.00. It would be equally meaningless. Making conditional
promises about things you will do "if" is ridiculous when
you cannot be held accountable)

An observation from a guy who has no interest in "defending Harry,"
(Harry can take care of himself, and does, very adequately.):

Aren't at least a few of the folks in the current pig piles on Harry
and Basskisser supposed to be getting spiritually prepared for what a
recently touted book declares the "most sacred Christian holiday" of
the year?

Will these personal attack threads continue until midnight of the 24th?
Will they stop long enough for the religious ceremony where well-to-do
people give other well-to-do people consumerist baubles and/or
expensive luxuries to emulate "God's gift of His son for our redemption
and to a lesser extent the chests of gold, frankincense and myhr
brought to the baby Jesus by the Persian astrologers"?

It is easily predicted that a chorus of wailing voices will respond,
"Gould, you hypocrite, why don't you chastise Krause for starting a lot
of this?" Harry does start a lot of it. It wouldn't be unreasonable to
say that he deserves much of what he gets in return.
Difference is, he isn't griping about the incursion of the secular
world into his Christian life, or the corruption of his sacred
religious holiday by people who would dare to say "Happy Holidays" or
"Seasons Greetings" rather than "Merry Christmas". Difference is also,
the
folks who are offended by non-Christian comments or observations of the
solstice holiday
usually claim to subscribe to a philosophy where one "turns the other
cheek" when attacked- rather than a philosophy where the one attacked
recruits a gang of people hiding behind phony names to launch a barrage
of insults for purposes of retaliation and escalation.

I guess maybe my general question is: When does this Christmas season
start? If it has started, are the pig piles and attack threads
consistent with the type of behavior one should engage in to observe
it? If it hasn't started, will the pig piles and attack threads
diminish when it does? If it hasn't started, why would anybody be upset
with references to "holiday" rather than Christmas on any given day?
Are certain non-Christian actions or statements more acceptable than
others? Does it make some sort of difference if the person engaged in
non-Christian behavior is all the while professing an overwhelming
concern for Christian behavior and expecting or demanding it from
others? It's pretty confusing. Would somebody please explain the rules?
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Wm Shakespeare Smithers wrote:
> Chuck,
> I have always tried to be very civil towards Harry. I don't think I ever
> call him names or use profanity. Even though he has been attacking me, I
> have offered to forgive him for these personal attacks. Heck, I even offer
> to give him a hug.
>
> Since when does asking Harry "What would you like to know" suddenly become
> "pig piling"?


When the pigs pile on? That would be when, precisely.
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JimH wrote:
> <chuckgould.chuck.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1134577443.838039.228130@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > William Bruce wrote:
> >> Hey Krause, my offer stands: Prove to the "reasonable man" standard that
> >> (1) you have a degree from Yale, (2) your wife is a medical doctor, and
> >> (3)
> >> that you own a lobster boat and I'll overnight a $10,000.00 check to the
> >> charity of your choice in your name.
> >>
> >> How 'bout it?
> >>
> >> William
> >
> >
> > (The first step in creating a contract is identifying the parties
> > involved. Since nobody knows who you are, you might as well promise
> > $10,000,000.00. It would be equally meaningless. Making conditional
> > promises about things you will do "if" is ridiculous when
> > you cannot be held accountable)
> >
> > An observation from a guy who has no interest in "defending Harry,"
> > (Harry can take care of himself, and does, very adequately.):
> >
> > Aren't at least a few of the folks in the current pig piles on Harry
> > and Basskisser supposed to be getting spiritually prepared for what a
> > recently touted book declares the "most sacred Christian holiday" of
> > the year?
> >
> > Will these personal attack threads continue until midnight of the 24th?
>
>
> Kevin gets what he deserves Chuck. His posts contain vulgar language and
> one or more of the following: idiot, nitwit, dolt, ignorant, dumb...and so
> on.
>
> Here is a list over the past days:


There is no defense for some of the behaviors and statements you
outline.
That's not the point.

My question has to do with the consistency of people who so prioritize
their Christian values that they take offense when one person wishes
another "Happy Holidays," but then engage in making sure that bad or
hateful behavior is responded to with equally bad or worse hateful
behavior to assure that the original offender gets what he or she
"deserves."
Is that what the founder of the Christian faith would have done? If
not, is it inconsistent for a professed Christian to engage in such
activity during the "most sacred Christian holiday" season of the year?

Heck, nobody's perfect. But if it's offensive to some folks to see any
non-Christian symbols or celebrations during the month of December,
wouldn't many of those same people make more of an effort to model
Christian behavior? Hey, maybe they are actually doing so- I don't
know. Would never claim to be an expert.
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don't care what "christians" to celebrate their holidays publicly, so
long as that celebration does not involve tax dollars, public property,
or public officials acting as public officials. If Presidummy and Mrs.
Stepford want to send out 1,000,000 Christmas cards, that's their
business, so long as no government funds are involved.

-- Are you sure they didn't say "Season's Greetings"?
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You're evading the issue, Krause. Will you allow me to contribute $10,000
to your favorite charity in your name? I'll overnight a cashier's check.

William
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JimH wrote:
> <chuckgould.chuck.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > JimH wrote:
> >> <chuckgould.chuck.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1134577443.838039.228130@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> > William Bruce wrote:
> >> >> Hey Krause, my offer stands: Prove to the "reasonable man" standard
> >> >> that
> >> >> (1) you have a degree from Yale, (2) your wife is a medical doctor,
> >> >> and
> >> >> (3)
> >> >> that you own a lobster boat and I'll overnight a $10,000.00 check to
> >> >> the
> >> >> charity of your choice in your name.
> >> >>
> >> >> How 'bout it?
> >> >>
> >> >> William
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > (The first step in creating a contract is identifying the parties
> >> > involved. Since nobody knows who you are, you might as well promise
> >> > $10,000,000.00. It would be equally meaningless. Making conditional
> >> > promises about things you will do "if" is ridiculous when
> >> > you cannot be held accountable)
> >> >
> >> > An observation from a guy who has no interest in "defending Harry,"
> >> > (Harry can take care of himself, and does, very adequately.):
> >> >
> >> > Aren't at least a few of the folks in the current pig piles on Harry
> >> > and Basskisser supposed to be getting spiritually prepared for what a
> >> > recently touted book declares the "most sacred Christian holiday" of
> >> > the year?
> >> >
> >> > Will these personal attack threads continue until midnight of the 24th?
> >>
> >>
> >> Kevin gets what he deserves Chuck. His posts contain vulgar language and
> >> one or more of the following: idiot, nitwit, dolt, ignorant, dumb...and
> >> so
> >> on.
> >>
> >> Here is a list over the past days:
> >
> >
> > There is no defense for some of the behaviors and statements you
> > outline.
>
>
> Actually there is no excuse for any of the behaviors and statements I
> outlined.
>
>
> > That's not the point.
>
>
> It was my point however. And until Kevin cleans up his act he will
> continue to be a target.
>
> Take your sermon over to the other side of the fence Chuck. There is plenty
> more cleaning up that is needed there than on the right and sunny side of
> the fence.


Funny, I didn't think my remarks were aimed toward only a single side
of the fence.
I still maintain that anybody, conservative, liberal, moderate, or what
-not, who would presume to demand that other people behave in a certain
manner during a certain season in order to demonstrate "respect" for
his/her religious belief would be more convincing in those demands if
he or she also behaved in a manner that demonstrated a respect for the
same belief. I'm not sure why you felt that wouldn't apply to
everybody, but it does. (Those who feel that my comments couldn't
possibly apply to them will take no offense).
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Skipper wrote:
> chuckgould.chuck.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Would somebody please explain the rules?
>
> Some varied best sellers:
>
> Who's Looking Out For You - Bill O'Reilly
> Let Freedom Ring - Sean Hannity
> Bias - Bernard Goldberg
> How to Talk to A Liberal (if you must) - Ann Coulter
> The War on Christmas - John Gibson
> See, I Told You So - Rush Limbaugh
>
> See if you can work a volume volumn discount...
>
> --
> Skipper


Thanks for the reading list, Skipper.
I seldom have time to read fantasy, but I appreciate your suggestions.

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chuckgould.chuck.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:

Would somebody please explain the rules?

Some varied best sellers:

Who's Looking Out For You - Bill O'Reilly
Let Freedom Ring - Sean Hannity
Bias - Bernard Goldberg
How to Talk to A Liberal (if you must) - Ann Coulter
The War on Christmas - John Gibson
See, I Told You So - Rush Limbaugh

See if you can work a volume volumn discount...

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chuckgould.chuck DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:

> I don't know. Would never claim to be an expert.

Yes, we know.

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"Don White" <whited.TakeThisOut@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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>
> Wish you'd give me that offer. I'd have the money sent to the George W
> Bush retirement fund. I thing that might be the most charitable thing I
> could do for the American people.

Don,
Sometimes you come up with great lines.
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