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martin_dms

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:07 am
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I am hoping to move permanently to Canada in 2007 from the UK.

I have a 55ft Motor boat which I would like to bring with me. The
boat is approx 32 tons net weight and Part 1 UK Registered

I have RYA dayskipper Theory, Practical and RYA VHF DSC operators
licence.

Where do I even begin to find out what I am required to do in order to
make this vessel OK in Canada (ie CCG and any other certification)
and me to be allowed helm it?

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JJ

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:40 pm
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<martin_dms.TakeThisOut@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:1108310843.526389.64710@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
 > Where do I even begin to find out what I am required to do in order to
 > make this vessel OK in Canada (ie CCG and any other certification)
 > and me to be allowed helm it?

I'm not an authority on this, but I have just moved to Canada from the UK
and a friend who has done the same brought an aircraft with him. In his case
the aircraft is a WW2 vintage Auster undergoing restoration so no
certification is required until it's ready to fly, but customs did give him
a hard time till he produced the letters from Transport Canada.
I think Transport Canada must also be the authority for boats and ships, as
far as certification of the vessel itself is concerned. Certification of YOU
as the skipper is probably a provincial matter (for example, here in Alberta
the province issues "operator certificates" which are required for all
powerboats and personal watercraft). The Transport Canada website should
point you in the right direction at any rate.
As an aside, I watched a Discovery Channel documentary a few nights ago
about a company based in Florida that does worldwide yacht transport using
converted bulk carriers. The ships are ballasted to allow yachts to drive in
under their own power, then divers attach supports before the ship is
refloated and in effect becomes a dry dock. A Canadian was featured, talking
his sailing yacht from Florida to Vancouver as a cost of about $8,000 US.
The ships were called Super Servant 1 to 4, and a websearch on the name may
find the company if that's of any use to you. Crews can stay on their own
boats during transport, allowing plenty of maintenance to get down. You'd
have to check with Citizenship and Immigration Canada if you'd be allowed to
enter the country that way though!

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Peter Bennett1

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:40 pm
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 16:25:35 GMT, "JJ" <jgNOj.DeleteThis@BLOODYshaSPAMw.ca>
wrote:

 > Certification of YOU
 >as the skipper is probably a provincial matter (for example, here in Alberta
 >the province issues "operator certificates" which are required for all
 >powerboats and personal watercraft). The Transport Canada website should
 >point you in the right direction at any rate.

The Pleasure Craft Operator Card is a federal thing, not provincial.
The PCOC courses and exams are administered by Canadian Power and Sail
Squadrons, Canadian Yachting Association, and many private companies.

The requirements for a PCOC are very simple, so you should have no
problem challenging the exam with your RYA qualifications.

You will need to get a Canadian Marine Radio Operator certificate -
these are issued by Canadian Power and Sail Squadrons on behalf of the
government.

You should check with Industry Canada, Spectrum Management, to see if
your UK radio can be legally used in Canada - normally, we require
Canadian type approval on our radios, but there may be an exemption
for radios already installed on an imported boat. However, you may
need to change the radio anyway, to access all the channels we use -
The US and Canada use some of the international duplex channels as
simplex - if your radio doesn't have a "US/International" or
simplex/duplex switch, you won't be able to use those channels (and
one of them (22A) is used by both US and Canadian Coast Guards to talk
to the public.)

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Vancouver Power Squadron: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca" target="_blank">http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Jack Dale1

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:40 pm
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:26:17 -0800, Peter Bennett
<peterbb.DeleteThis@somewhere.invalid> wrote:


 >
 >The requirements for a PCOC are very simple, so you should have no
 >problem challenging the exam with your RYA qualifications.

Just remember you will be in IALA System B: red starboard and green
port lateral buoys. The shapes do not change, nor do cardinal and
special purpose buoys.

Jack

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Charles T. Low2

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 7:40 am
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I'm a little late getting to this conversation. The Canadian Coast Guard is
now run by Fisheries and Oceans. They would at least know who and where to
point you. There are regulations about what size and/or tonnage of vessel
you may operate yourself, and they vary by whether it's commercial or
recreational. I think you'll be OK with recreational qualifications, but
can't remember for sure, and can't find it quickly on the Net.

But by starting at the Government of Canada web site, <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.canada.gc.ca," target="_blank">www.canada.gc.ca,</a> you
can work you way at least towards contact information at Fisheries and
Oceans or at the Coast Guard. (Be careful who you're talking to - not all
employees of those agencies know all of the arcana necessary to answer to
your questions correctly.)

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Charles T. Low
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.boatdocking.com" target="_blank">www.boatdocking.com</a>

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<martin_dms.TakeThisOut@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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 > I am hoping to move permanently to Canada in 2007 from the UK.
 >
 > I have a 55ft Motor boat which I would like to bring with me. The
 > boat is approx 32 tons net weight and Part 1 UK Registered
 >
 > I have RYA dayskipper Theory, Practical and RYA VHF DSC operators
 > licence.
 >
 > Where do I even begin to find out what I am required to do in order to
 > make this vessel OK in Canada (ie CCG and any other certification)
 > and me to be allowed helm it?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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bowgus

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:40 am
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OT: I don't know if you resolved the tax thing, but obviously you won't be
able to "helm" it, until the taxes have been paid Smile. So here's a link to a
page with a toll free number (1-888-203-4379, Monday to Friday from 10:00
a.m. until 7:00 p.m. Eastern Time, Note: This pilot service is temporary and
is subject to change on short notice) for that info
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tax/smartlink/businesses/ref-417-e.html" target="_blank">http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tax/smartlink/businesses/ref-417-e.html</a>


<martin_dms.DeleteThis@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:1108310843.526389.64710@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
 > I am hoping to move permanently to Canada in 2007 from the UK.
 >
 > I have a 55ft Motor boat which I would like to bring with me. The
 > boat is approx 32 tons net weight and Part 1 UK Registered
 >
 > I have RYA dayskipper Theory, Practical and RYA VHF DSC operators
 > licence.
 >
 > Where do I even begin to find out what I am required to do in order to
 > make this vessel OK in Canada (ie CCG and any other certification)
 > and me to be allowed helm it?
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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