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Denis Roy

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:47 pm
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I'm toying with the idea of bringing a boat in from the US. It would be a
17' fibreglass boat with 120 hp inboard motor. Has anyone done this and
what kind of duties and red tape can I expect at the border?

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Jean Dufour7

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:47 pm
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If the boat was build in a NAFTA country, it's duty free. If not, 9.5% duty
applies. GST applies. Dunno for the PST. When I bought my boat 13 yrs ago, in
Quebec, the PST didn't apply on used boat. I don't know if it's still like
this. And I don't know for your province if you're located elsewhere.

Jean Dufour
Montreal, Qc

Denis Roy wrote:

 > I'm toying with the idea of bringing a boat in from the US. It would be a
 > 17' fibreglass boat with 120 hp inboard motor. Has anyone done this and
 > what kind of duties and red tape can I expect at the border?
 >
 > --
 > Denis Roy
 > D. Roy Woodcraft
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Bryan

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 3:34 pm
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None,
It's surprisingly easy. I did it and found it no more complex then going
to the ministry of transport. When you get to the border tell the guy in the
booth you are importing a pleasure boat, he will refer to you to the guys
inside.
There they will need 3 things, I.D., bill of sale, and most important of
all the title (or deed in some states). You'll fill out a couple of
forms...they'll figure out the pst and gst, you'll pay it right then and
there. They also issue you your new Ontario vessel registration and handle
all the paperwork for you right there so once cleared all you have to do
enjoy the water. HTH.

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Terry Spragg4

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:00 pm
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Denis Roy wrote:
 > I'm toying with the idea of bringing a boat in from the US. It would be a
 > 17' fibreglass boat with 120 hp inboard motor. Has anyone done this and
 > what kind of duties and red tape can I expect at the border?
 >
 > --
 > Denis Roy
 > D. Roy Woodcraft
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Come back through Vanceboro at 3:00 AM and don't wake up the guard.
It's a deserted, lonely outpost out there, like most, and all them
forest trails.

If he's awake, he might be pretending to be asleep, and will call
the cops if you don't wake him up. You will be accused of zooming
through, searched, found guilty of something.

Gosh! those customs guys got a whole bag full of tricks!

Security is as security does. Everyone is a spy for their side.
Being partisan often groups us with unlike strangers, some of whom
really should be on the other side. Can you trust your niegbours not
to rat on you?

Bitching because there is no barbed wire won't help.

Not being allowed to leave is the same as not being let in.

Borders are just like dragnets, where fish are chosen. The bycatch
is an annoyance. Nobody cares about your little lake skimmer, yet.
Cut up one of your neigbours' pet ducks, and they will want to get
rid of you and your boat, all the way to finding gasoline bomb
making materials in your boat and house. Don't go to sea. Are you
inside a fence, or outside of it?

Wherever there is a power structure, those hungriest for power will
climb over the seething mass to the top. Some wear golf spikes. The
most ruthless will kill to get there. Those born powerless will go
the furthest.

Whomever is on top is corrupted by the evil of power sooner or
later, and your only defense is to be sneakier than him, and replace
him often, confusing the bureaucracy. Long may they persist in their
confusion, lest they catch everyone, or anyone.

We need analysts to see everything. The smartest part of grass is
the roots. Spy on your neigbours, for the country's good, ja, ja,
that's the tiquet.

The customs guys will charge you a levy unless it's an old boat.
The registration people will be after you for sales tax when you
register your trailer, an item best invoiced seperately from the boat.

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Denis Roy

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:38 pm
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Thanks to all who replied. You've given me food for thought.


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 > I'm toying with the idea of bringing a boat in from the US. It would be a
 > 17' fibreglass boat with 120 hp inboard motor. Has anyone done this and
 > what kind of duties and red tape can I expect at the border?
 >
 > --
 > Denis Roy
 > D. Roy Woodcraft
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Bryan

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 6:24 am
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Terry said:
"The customs guys will charge you a levy unless it's an old boat.
The registration people will be after you for sales tax when you
register your trailer, an item best invoiced separately from the boat."

This is not correct, "any" pleasure boat, be it an aluminum, jet ski, or
outboard motor tied to a raft, etc is subject to PST and GST. Additional
fees would be only be applicable if the boat was not made in north America.

There are no additional fees for registering a trailer either. If a trailer
is part of the package you will first of all have to use some foresight On
the bill of sale indicate the trailer is not part of the deal. You should
have already visited the ministry prior to going south to bring the boat
back. Since you will not have the ownership in hand at that time, you can
register it as a homemade trailer. In Ontario the fee is 15.00 and you
receive a plate on the spot good for life. This is somewhat of a loophole,
but it avoids the additional paperwork and hassle at the border if a trailer
is part of the deal.
If it's your trailer nothing else needs to be said. Away you go.

regards
Bryan
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Denis Roy

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 5:05 am
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I already have a homemade white utility trailer with valid plate. I can
bring the plate with me and say it was my own trailer then?
Don't they track your exit from the country, noting no trailer when you
left?

In Manitoba it costs $60 to register a trailer. I don't think they can
charge PST on a purchase made out of province.

I'm thinking of just showing up at the border with boat & trailer and paying
whatever tax they assess me.

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 > Terry said:
 > "The customs guys will charge you a levy unless it's an old boat.
 > The registration people will be after you for sales tax when you
 > register your trailer, an item best invoiced separately from the boat."
 >
 > This is not correct, "any" pleasure boat, be it an aluminum, jet ski, or
 > outboard motor tied to a raft, etc is subject to PST and GST. Additional
 > fees would be only be applicable if the boat was not made in north
America.
 >
 > There are no additional fees for registering a trailer either. If a
trailer
 > is part of the package you will first of all have to use some foresight On
 > the bill of sale indicate the trailer is not part of the deal. You should
 > have already visited the ministry prior to going south to bring the boat
 > back. Since you will not have the ownership in hand at that time, you can
 > register it as a homemade trailer. In Ontario the fee is 15.00 and you
 > receive a plate on the spot good for life. This is somewhat of a loophole,
 > but it avoids the additional paperwork and hassle at the border if a
trailer
 > is part of the deal.
 > If it's your trailer nothing else needs to be said. Away you go.
 >
 > regards
 > Bryan
 >
 >
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Bryan

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 11:28 am
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Yes,
Like I said before this is fine. Just make sure to avoid hassles from
the police and get a plate for the trailer before you go. If the one you buy
is identical to the one you already have GVWR wise then sure go for it...
who's gonna know or say anything anyways. Otherwise get new plates.
Make sure you get a separate receipt for the trailer, and it's title if
applicable otherwise it'll sit there at the border and you'll have to pay
storage till you sort it out. Don't lie to customs! If they catch you they
will code you in the computer and then everytime you cross back in to Canada
you "WILL" be searched- that's a guarantee. How do I know? my best friend is
a customs inspector and he tells me all the stories. So for those of you
thinking of sneaking an extra bottle of booze back in...don't. Declare
everything. 99.9999% of the time if you are honest they wont bother charging
you because literally they cant be bothered to do the paperwork and
run-around for small stuff, honestly. They are told to "charge at their
discretion" (within reason I suppose).

Bryan
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