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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:28 pm
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hk wrote:
> Tim wrote:
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>> hk wrote:
>>> ...picked up my Mac today...and despite all my thumbs, I sorta figured
>>> some of it out. Maybe.
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>> Harry, I know some people that are Mac addicts. They wouldn't use any
>> other system.
>>
>> I've never been around one. so I really don't know. Is there an
>> advantage to using a Mac besides less virus/worms etc?
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>
> I'm barely a beginner...will let you know. I do like the ergonomics of
> the Apple hardware.
>
> I tried a MAC about five or six years ago, and I just could not get used
> to it. But there have been a lot of improvements to the MAC interface
> the last few years.
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:30 pm
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D.Duck wrote:
> "Eisboch" <rce DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>> "HK" <payer33859 DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
>> news:63ocu9F28s337U2@mid.individual.net...
>>> Eisboch wrote:
>>>> "hk" <payer33859 DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:n8mdncN1l_b5Z0vanZ2dnUVZ_umlnZ2d@comcast.com...
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>>>>> Tim wrote:
>>>>>> hk wrote:
>>>>>>> ...picked up my Mac today...and despite all my thumbs, I sorta
>>>>>>> figured
>>>>>>> some of it out. Maybe.
>>>>>> Harry, I know some people that are Mac addicts. They wouldn't use any
>>>>>> other system.
>>>>
>>>> Software issues aside .... are there any claims or evidence that Mac
>>>> hardware is better ... more reliable .... longer lasting ... etc. than
>>>> the typical CPUs and components used in PCs?
>>>>
>>>> Eisboch
>>
>>> I don't see how that could be, as the main ingredients are pretty much
>>> the same quality, and depend more on price. If you buy certified memory,
>>> you are getting something that may be better than uncertified memory. The
>>> drives are the same, the cpu's are the same, the ergonomics are a lot
>>> different.
>>
>> The CPU's are the same?
>> Just goes to show how ignorant I am about computers. Last I knew, Apple
>> had their own CPU's.
>>
>> Eisboch
>
>
> Intel is now making Apple CPUs.
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>
Apple gave up on 68000's and PowerPC's and has now joined the x86 family.
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:33 pm
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:51 pm
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"Tim" <tschnautz DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> He and I get along just fine. We snarl at each other.
>
> Eisboch
richard, if you want to show him who's boss, i suppose you could
always challenge him to a kicking or biting contest.
*rolling eyes*
Actually, I kinda like Sebastian, for a horse. Unlike her other two horses,
he has a bit of an "attitude".
It's like he's thinking, "Get off my back!"
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:11 pm
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:05:32 -0400, "Eisboch" <rce.DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote:
>Well, isn't *that* special.
>
>So, what's the difference between a Mac running Windows (I've read that it
>can) and a PC running Windows?
It's an emulation and not a strict operating system as I understand
it. Kind an overlay.
Personally, I find Macs very hard to use. It takes a particular mind
set to operate a Mac compared to Windows.
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:11 pm
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:05:32 -0400, "Eisboch" <rce RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, isn't *that* special.
>>
>> So, what's the difference between a Mac running Windows (I've read that it
>> can) and a PC running Windows?
>
> It's an emulation and not a strict operating system as I understand
> it. Kind an overlay.
>
> Personally, I find Macs very hard to use. It takes a particular mind
> set to operate a Mac compared to Windows.
>
> There is nothing "intuitive" about a Mac operating system.
About a dozen years ago I worked for a company that standardized the
desktop on Macs. We had PowerBooks at the time. Nice little machines
except with the bomb appeared on the screen. Then it was time to get the
paper clip out.
I had to evaluate some MacOS emulation software that ran on SunOS. We
were trying to reduce the number of systems on developers desktops. It
would have worked if the MacOS emulation would have been able to talk
through the Sun's Ethernet nic. But, Sun had taken over the NIC.
The funny thing was going from a one button Mac mouse to a three button
Sun mouse. I hated those Sun optical mice with the directionally
oriented mouse pads. Slick technology but a pain to use. >> Stay informed about: No biggie, but... |
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:11 pm
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:05:32 -0400, "Eisboch" <rce RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, isn't *that* special.
>>
>> So, what's the difference between a Mac running Windows (I've read that it
>> can) and a PC running Windows?
>
> It's an emulation and not a strict operating system as I understand
> it. Kind an overlay.
>
> Personally, I find Macs very hard to use. It takes a particular mind
> set to operate a Mac compared to Windows.
>
> There is nothing "intuitive" about a Mac operating system.
There are two popular "emulators" that allow XP or Vista to run on a Mac
as a virtual machine, and another program that allows you to boot up
into Mac's Leopard OS, or either XP or Vista.
The Leopard OS is not quite as challenging for those used to the Windows
environment. The proof of that is I have been messing with it for a
while, and I have not created any catastrophes on the new machine. >> Stay informed about: No biggie, but... |
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:11 pm
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email.TakeThisOut@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:05:32 -0400, "Eisboch" <rce.TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>Well, isn't *that* special.
>>
>>So, what's the difference between a Mac running Windows (I've read that it
>>can) and a PC running Windows?
>
> It's an emulation and not a strict operating system as I understand
> it. Kind an overlay.
>
> Personally, I find Macs very hard to use. It takes a particular mind
> set to operate a Mac compared to Windows.
>
> There is nothing "intuitive" about a Mac operating system.
"Intel-powered" Macs have the potential for booting from Mac OS X or for
Windows XP and Windows Vista. However, you can't just stick a Windows
installation disc into a Mac and expect it to install. You need to first
install Apple's Boot Camp on the Mac. Boot Camp will create a separate
partition on your hard disk for Windows. (Boot Camp installer assistant
"dynamically creates" the Windows partition for Windows, so you won't lose
your Mac data). Boot Camp also provides Windows drivers to support the Mac
keyboard and various hardware and peripherals from within Windows. (Boot
Camp does not provide Windows; you'll need to supply your own copy.)
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:11 pm
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:11:36 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
<email.RemoveThis@swsportsremove.org> wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:05:32 -0400, "Eisboch" <rce.RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>Well, isn't *that* special.
>>
>>So, what's the difference between a Mac running Windows (I've read that it
>>can) and a PC running Windows?
>
>It's an emulation and not a strict operating system as I understand
>it. Kind an overlay.
>
>Personally, I find Macs very hard to use. It takes a particular mind
>set to operate a Mac compared to Windows.
>
>There is nothing "intuitive" about a Mac operating system.
One year they gave all of us teaching in Fairfax County a new Mac for the
classroom.
Everyone bitched.
So they gave us all PC emulator programs for the Mac so we could run
Windows and all the Windows software we already had.
Everyone still bitched.
So the next year they gave us all Dells and put the Macs in one room for
the kids.
The next year they got rid of the Macs and put Dells everywhere.
--
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:11 pm
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D.Duck wrote:
> "Short Wave Sportfishing" <email RemoveThis @swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
> news:4c4et31ghnhhjkjcvipj4vvla6ae07g0ab@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:05:32 -0400, "Eisboch" <rce RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, isn't *that* special.
>>>
>>> So, what's the difference between a Mac running Windows (I've read that it
>>> can) and a PC running Windows?
>> It's an emulation and not a strict operating system as I understand
>> it. Kind an overlay.
>>
>> Personally, I find Macs very hard to use. It takes a particular mind
>> set to operate a Mac compared to Windows.
>>
>> There is nothing "intuitive" about a Mac operating system.
>
> "Intel-powered" Macs have the potential for booting from Mac OS X or for
> Windows XP and Windows Vista. However, you can't just stick a Windows
> installation disc into a Mac and expect it to install. You need to first
> install Apple's Boot Camp on the Mac. Boot Camp will create a separate
> partition on your hard disk for Windows. (Boot Camp installer assistant
> "dynamically creates" the Windows partition for Windows, so you won't lose
> your Mac data). Boot Camp also provides Windows drivers to support the Mac
> keyboard and various hardware and peripherals from within Windows. (Boot
> Camp does not provide Windows; you'll need to supply your own copy.)
>
> http://www.macwindows.com/winintelmac.html#bootcamp
>
>
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>
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OR you can run windoze in a virtual machine, which is what I am going to
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:11 pm
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"HK" <payer33859.TakeThisOut@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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> OR you can run windoze in a virtual machine, which is what I am going to
> try first.
That is what I don't understand and why I asked about reliability, etc.
Why would you by a Mac to run Windows?
Or are there other advantages or capabilities of a Mac that make it worth
the investment?
Serious question .... not being snarky. You just happen to be one of the
few people I know that has recently purchased a Mac that can also run
Windows.
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:11 pm
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"Eisboch" <rce.DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "HK" <payer33859.DeleteThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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>>>
>>>
>> OR you can run windoze in a virtual machine, which is what I am going to
>> try first.
>
>
> That is what I don't understand and why I asked about reliability, etc.
> Why would you by a Mac to run Windows?
>
> Or are there other advantages or capabilities of a Mac that make it worth
> the investment?
>
> Serious question .... not being snarky. You just happen to be one of the
> few people I know that has recently purchased a Mac that can also run
> Windows.
>
> Eisboch
>
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:11 pm
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Eisboch wrote:
> "HK" <payer33859 RemoveThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
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>>>
>> OR you can run windoze in a virtual machine, which is what I am going to
>> try first.
>
>
> That is what I don't understand and why I asked about reliability, etc.
> Why would you by a Mac to run Windows?
>
> Or are there other advantages or capabilities of a Mac that make it worth
> the investment?
>
> Serious question .... not being snarky. You just happen to be one of the
> few people I know that has recently purchased a Mac that can also run
> Windows.
>
> Eisboch
>
>
There are a couple of programs I have that will not run in the Mac
environment, and there is no Mac alternative for them. One of these is
the mapsource program from Garmin for my 4208 chartplotter.
There are also a couple of programs I have that I see no need to replace
with Mac versions. As an example, I use Quicken as my checkbook and
credit card manager. I have the PC version and I see no reason to buy a
Mac version for my use on the road when I don't have access to my
desktop machine. Hopefully, the "virtual PC" VMware will let me boot
into Windoze and then run Quicken.
I just finished installed XP Pro in a virtual machine, and it seems to
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:11 pm
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"HK" <payer33859 RemoveThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
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> Eisboch wrote:
>> "HK" <payer33859 RemoveThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
>> news:63okuiF28d2puU1@mid.individual.net...
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>>>>
>>> OR you can run windoze in a virtual machine, which is what I am going to
>>> try first.
>>
>>
>> That is what I don't understand and why I asked about reliability, etc.
>> Why would you by a Mac to run Windows?
>>
>> Or are there other advantages or capabilities of a Mac that make it worth
>> the investment?
>>
>> Serious question .... not being snarky. You just happen to be one of the
>> few people I know that has recently purchased a Mac that can also run
>> Windows.
>>
>> Eisboch
>
>
> There are a couple of programs I have that will not run in the Mac
> environment, and there is no Mac alternative for them. One of these is the
> mapsource program from Garmin for my 4208 chartplotter.
>
> There are also a couple of programs I have that I see no need to replace
> with Mac versions. As an example, I use Quicken as my checkbook and credit
> card manager. I have the PC version and I see no reason to buy a Mac
> version for my use on the road when I don't have access to my desktop
> machine. Hopefully, the "virtual PC" VMware will let me boot into Windoze
> and then run Quicken.
>
> I just finished installed XP Pro in a virtual machine, and it seems to be
> working.
Ok. So Windows works for the most part.
The question remains. Why a Mac to run Windows?
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:11 pm
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Eisboch wrote:
> "HK" <payer33859.RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
> news:63omq1F28isgcU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Eisboch wrote:
>>> "HK" <payer33859.RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
>>> news:63okuiF28d2puU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>>> OR you can run windoze in a virtual machine, which is what I am going to
>>>> try first.
>>>
>>> That is what I don't understand and why I asked about reliability, etc.
>>> Why would you by a Mac to run Windows?
>>>
>>> Or are there other advantages or capabilities of a Mac that make it worth
>>> the investment?
>>>
>>> Serious question .... not being snarky. You just happen to be one of the
>>> few people I know that has recently purchased a Mac that can also run
>>> Windows.
>>>
>>> Eisboch
>>
>> There are a couple of programs I have that will not run in the Mac
>> environment, and there is no Mac alternative for them. One of these is the
>> mapsource program from Garmin for my 4208 chartplotter.
>>
>> There are also a couple of programs I have that I see no need to replace
>> with Mac versions. As an example, I use Quicken as my checkbook and credit
>> card manager. I have the PC version and I see no reason to buy a Mac
>> version for my use on the road when I don't have access to my desktop
>> machine. Hopefully, the "virtual PC" VMware will let me boot into Windoze
>> and then run Quicken.
>>
>> I just finished installed XP Pro in a virtual machine, and it seems to be
>> working.
>
>
> Ok. So Windows works for the most part.
> The question remains. Why a Mac to run Windows?
>
> Eisboch
>
>
Because I don't want to carry two computers on a road trip, and I just
sold my Windows laptop PC.
With my new Mac, I can run those few Windoze apps I need on the road.
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