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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:08 pm
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:08 pm
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hk wrote:
> ...picked up my Mac today...and despite all my thumbs, I sorta figured
> some of it out. Maybe.
Harry, I know some people that are Mac addicts. They wouldn't use any
other system.
I've never been around one. so I really don't know. Is there an
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:08 pm
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On Mar 11, 5:22 pm, sa....DeleteThis@dog.com wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:05:32 -0400, "Eisboch" <r....DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote:
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> >"D.Duck" <D....DeleteThis@ald.duck> wrote in message
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> >> "Eisboch" <r....DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> >>> "HK" <payer33....DeleteThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:63ocu9F28s337U2@mid.individual.net...
> >>>> Eisboch wrote:
> >>>>> "hk" <payer33....DeleteThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:n8mdncN1l_b5Z0vanZ2dnUVZ_umlnZ2d@comcast.com...
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> >>>>>> Tim wrote:
> >>>>>>> hk wrote:
> >>>>>>>> ...picked up my Mac today...and despite all my thumbs, I sorta
> >>>>>>>> figured
> >>>>>>>> some of it out. Maybe.
> >>>>>>> Harry, I know some people that are Mac addicts. They wouldn't use any
> >>>>>>> other system.
>
> >>>>> Software issues aside .... are there any claims or evidence that Mac
> >>>>> hardware is better ... more reliable .... longer lasting ... etc. than
> >>>>> the typical CPUs and components used in PCs?
>
> >>>>> Eisboch
>
> >>>> I don't see how that could be, as the main ingredients are pretty much
> >>>> the same quality, and depend more on price. If you buy certified memory,
> >>>> you are getting something that may be better than uncertified memory.
> >>>> The drives are the same, the cpu's are the same, the ergonomics are a
> >>>> lot different.
>
> >>> The CPU's are the same?
> >>> Just goes to show how ignorant I am about computers. Last I knew, Apple
> >>> had their own CPU's.
>
> >>> Eisboch
>
> >> Intel is now making Apple CPUs.
>
> >Well, isn't *that* special.
>
> >So, what's the difference between a Mac running Windows (I've read that it
> >can) and a PC running Windows?
>
> >Eisboch
>
> Replacement parts cost (no exaggeration) 20 times more than PC parts. Go price a
> mac power supply and motherboard. You won't believe what you find.
>
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I figured it was due to compact size.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:32 pm
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Tim wrote:
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> hk wrote:
>> ...picked up my Mac today...and despite all my thumbs, I sorta figured
>> some of it out. Maybe.
>
> Harry, I know some people that are Mac addicts. They wouldn't use any
> other system.
>
> I've never been around one. so I really don't know. Is there an
> advantage to using a Mac besides less virus/worms etc?
I'm barely a beginner...will let you know. I do like the ergonomics of
the Apple hardware.
I tried a MAC about five or six years ago, and I just could not get used
to it. But there have been a lot of improvements to the MAC interface
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:42 pm
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"hk" <payer33859.DeleteThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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> Tim wrote:
>>
>> hk wrote:
>>> ...picked up my Mac today...and despite all my thumbs, I sorta figured
>>> some of it out. Maybe.
>>
>> Harry, I know some people that are Mac addicts. They wouldn't use any
>> other system.
Software issues aside .... are there any claims or evidence that Mac
hardware is better ... more reliable .... longer lasting ... etc. than the
typical CPUs and components used in PCs?
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:47 pm
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Eisboch wrote:
> "hk" <payer33859 RemoveThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
> news:n8mdncN1l_b5Z0vanZ2dnUVZ_umlnZ2d@comcast.com...
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>> Tim wrote:
>>> hk wrote:
>>>> ...picked up my Mac today...and despite all my thumbs, I sorta figured
>>>> some of it out. Maybe.
>>> Harry, I know some people that are Mac addicts. They wouldn't use any
>>> other system.
>
>
> Software issues aside .... are there any claims or evidence that Mac
> hardware is better ... more reliable .... longer lasting ... etc. than the
> typical CPUs and components used in PCs?
>
> Eisboch
>
>
I don't see how that could be, as the main ingredients are pretty much
the same quality, and depend more on price. If you buy certified memory,
you are getting something that may be better than uncertified memory.
The drives are the same, the cpu's are the same, the ergonomics are a
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:57 pm
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"HK" <payer33859.DeleteThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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> Eisboch wrote:
>> "hk" <payer33859.DeleteThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
>> news:n8mdncN1l_b5Z0vanZ2dnUVZ_umlnZ2d@comcast.com...
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>>> Tim wrote:
>>>> hk wrote:
>>>>> ...picked up my Mac today...and despite all my thumbs, I sorta figured
>>>>> some of it out. Maybe.
>>>> Harry, I know some people that are Mac addicts. They wouldn't use any
>>>> other system.
>>
>>
>> Software issues aside .... are there any claims or evidence that Mac
>> hardware is better ... more reliable .... longer lasting ... etc. than
>> the typical CPUs and components used in PCs?
>>
>> Eisboch
>
>>
>
> I don't see how that could be, as the main ingredients are pretty much the
> same quality, and depend more on price. If you buy certified memory, you
> are getting something that may be better than uncertified memory. The
> drives are the same, the cpu's are the same, the ergonomics are a lot
> different.
The CPU's are the same?
Just goes to show how ignorant I am about computers. Last I knew, Apple
had their own CPU's.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:03 pm
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"Eisboch" <rce.TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "HK" <payer33859.TakeThisOut@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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>> Eisboch wrote:
>>> "hk" <payer33859.TakeThisOut@mypacks.net> wrote in message
>>> news:n8mdncN1l_b5Z0vanZ2dnUVZ_umlnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>
>>>> Tim wrote:
>>>>> hk wrote:
>>>>>> ...picked up my Mac today...and despite all my thumbs, I sorta
>>>>>> figured
>>>>>> some of it out. Maybe.
>>>>> Harry, I know some people that are Mac addicts. They wouldn't use any
>>>>> other system.
>>>
>>>
>>> Software issues aside .... are there any claims or evidence that Mac
>>> hardware is better ... more reliable .... longer lasting ... etc. than
>>> the typical CPUs and components used in PCs?
>>>
>>> Eisboch
>
>
>>
>>>
>>
>> I don't see how that could be, as the main ingredients are pretty much
>> the same quality, and depend more on price. If you buy certified memory,
>> you are getting something that may be better than uncertified memory. The
>> drives are the same, the cpu's are the same, the ergonomics are a lot
>> different.
>
>
> The CPU's are the same?
> Just goes to show how ignorant I am about computers. Last I knew, Apple
> had their own CPU's.
>
> Eisboch
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:05 pm
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"D.Duck" <Don DeleteThis @ald.duck> wrote in message
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> "Eisboch" <rce DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>> "HK" <payer33859 DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
>> news:63ocu9F28s337U2@mid.individual.net...
>>> Eisboch wrote:
>>>> "hk" <payer33859 DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:n8mdncN1l_b5Z0vanZ2dnUVZ_umlnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>
>>>>> Tim wrote:
>>>>>> hk wrote:
>>>>>>> ...picked up my Mac today...and despite all my thumbs, I sorta
>>>>>>> figured
>>>>>>> some of it out. Maybe.
>>>>>> Harry, I know some people that are Mac addicts. They wouldn't use any
>>>>>> other system.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Software issues aside .... are there any claims or evidence that Mac
>>>> hardware is better ... more reliable .... longer lasting ... etc. than
>>>> the typical CPUs and components used in PCs?
>>>>
>>>> Eisboch
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't see how that could be, as the main ingredients are pretty much
>>> the same quality, and depend more on price. If you buy certified memory,
>>> you are getting something that may be better than uncertified memory.
>>> The drives are the same, the cpu's are the same, the ergonomics are a
>>> lot different.
>>
>>
>> The CPU's are the same?
>> Just goes to show how ignorant I am about computers. Last I knew, Apple
>> had their own CPU's.
>>
>> Eisboch
>
>
> Intel is now making Apple CPUs.
>
Well, isn't *that* special.
So, what's the difference between a Mac running Windows (I've read that it
can) and a PC running Windows?
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:13 pm
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"Eisboch" <rce.TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "D.Duck" <Don.TakeThisOut@ald.duck> wrote in message
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>> "Eisboch" <rce.TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "HK" <payer33859.TakeThisOut@mypacks.net> wrote in message
>>> news:63ocu9F28s337U2@mid.individual.net...
>>>> Eisboch wrote:
>>>>> "hk" <payer33859.TakeThisOut@mypacks.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:n8mdncN1l_b5Z0vanZ2dnUVZ_umlnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim wrote:
>>>>>>> hk wrote:
>>>>>>>> ...picked up my Mac today...and despite all my thumbs, I sorta
>>>>>>>> figured
>>>>>>>> some of it out. Maybe.
>>>>>>> Harry, I know some people that are Mac addicts. They wouldn't use
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> other system.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Software issues aside .... are there any claims or evidence that Mac
>>>>> hardware is better ... more reliable .... longer lasting ... etc. than
>>>>> the typical CPUs and components used in PCs?
>>>>>
>>>>> Eisboch
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't see how that could be, as the main ingredients are pretty much
>>>> the same quality, and depend more on price. If you buy certified
>>>> memory, you are getting something that may be better than uncertified
>>>> memory. The drives are the same, the cpu's are the same, the ergonomics
>>>> are a lot different.
>>>
>>>
>>> The CPU's are the same?
>>> Just goes to show how ignorant I am about computers. Last I knew,
>>> Apple had their own CPU's.
>>>
>>> Eisboch
>>
>>
>> Intel is now making Apple CPUs.
>>
>
> Well, isn't *that* special.
>
> So, what's the difference between a Mac running Windows (I've read that it
> can) and a PC running Windows?
>
> Eisboch
For you entertainment and knowledge enhancement your might try this site:
http://www.macwindows.com/winintelmac.html
I'm sure they can do a far better job of explaining than I can. I've never
seen a Mac running windows.
My latest experience with a Mac was a few weeks ago when a neighbor lady
asked me try and figure out why here printer from an old Mac would not work.
I couldn't even navigate through the "intuitive" interface. It took me a
couple of days searching the Internet to get educated enough to figure out
that drivers were not available for her version of Leopard(?).
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:18 pm
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"Eisboch" <rce.TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "D.Duck" <Don.TakeThisOut@ald.duck> wrote in message
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>> "Eisboch" <rce.TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>>> "HK" <payer33859.TakeThisOut@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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>>>> Eisboch wrote:
>>>>> "hk" <payer33859.TakeThisOut@mypacks.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:n8mdncN1l_b5Z0vanZ2dnUVZ_umlnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim wrote:
>>>>>>> hk wrote:
>>>>>>>> ...picked up my Mac today...and despite all my thumbs, I sorta
>>>>>>>> figured
>>>>>>>> some of it out. Maybe.
>>>>>>> Harry, I know some people that are Mac addicts. They wouldn't use
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> other system.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Software issues aside .... are there any claims or evidence that Mac
>>>>> hardware is better ... more reliable .... longer lasting ... etc. than
>>>>> the typical CPUs and components used in PCs?
>>>>>
>>>>> Eisboch
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't see how that could be, as the main ingredients are pretty much
>>>> the same quality, and depend more on price. If you buy certified
>>>> memory, you are getting something that may be better than uncertified
>>>> memory. The drives are the same, the cpu's are the same, the ergonomics
>>>> are a lot different.
>>>
>>>
>>> The CPU's are the same?
>>> Just goes to show how ignorant I am about computers. Last I knew,
>>> Apple had their own CPU's.
>>>
>>> Eisboch
>>
>>
>> Intel is now making Apple CPUs.
>>
>
> Well, isn't *that* special.
>
> So, what's the difference between a Mac running Windows (I've read that it
> can) and a PC running Windows?
>
> Eisboch
>
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:22 pm
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On Mar 11, 7:51 pm, "D.Duck" <D....TakeThisOut@ald.duck> wrote:
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> > "HK" <payer33....TakeThisOut@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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> >> Eisboch wrote:
> >>> "HK" <payer33....TakeThisOut@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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> >>>> OR you can run windoze in a virtual machine, which is what I am going
> >>>> to try first.
>
> >>> That is what I don't understand and why I asked about reliability, etc..
> >>> Why would you by a Mac to run Windows?
>
> >>> Or are there other advantages or capabilities of a Mac that make it
> >>> worth the investment?
>
> >>> Serious question .... not being snarky. You just happen to be one of
> >>> the few people I know that has recently purchased a Mac that can also
> >>> run Windows.
>
> >>> Eisboch
>
> >> There are a couple of programs I have that will not run in the Mac
> >> environment, and there is no Mac alternative for them. One of these is
> >> the mapsource program from Garmin for my 4208 chartplotter.
>
> >> There are also a couple of programs I have that I see no need to replace
> >> with Mac versions. As an example, I use Quicken as my checkbook and
> >> credit card manager. I have the PC version and I see no reason to buy a
> >> Mac version for my use on the road when I don't have access to my desktop
> >> machine. Hopefully, the "virtual PC" VMware will let me boot into Windoze
> >> and then run Quicken.
>
> >> I just finished installed XP Pro in a virtual machine, and it seems to be
> >> working.
>
> > Ok. So Windows works for the most part.
> > The question remains. Why a Mac to run Windows?
>
> > Eisboch
>
> The new slim Mac laptops, from pictures look kinda neat. A really thin
> profile. I've never seen one in person.
>
> Why buy a Mac when everything you use works in Windows, I guess because you
> can. An analogy for you, you have many different guitars. Please don't
> take that as a slam, it sure isn't intended that way. Have top be kinda
> careful around here these days. 0-)
>
> As for myself I buy things I don't need, just because I can and I think they
> are neat. I have no desire for a Mac, but that's just me.- Hide quoted text -
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Well, I can understand multiple computers, IF you have a desire and/or
function for them. I look at it like this. a computer can be anything
fromt he best of the best of the best, all the way down to a $4.99
pocket calculator.
I'm trying to figure out how to answer the guitar comment you made. i
have several, actualy I have way more than several.
I like 'em all, i gig with just a few,. some are collectable, that I
don'tplay at all.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:37 pm
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On Mar 11, 8:30 pm, "Eisboch" <r....DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote:
> He and I get along just fine. We snarl at each other.
>
> Eisboch
richard, if you want to show him who's boss, i suppose you could
always challenge him to a kicking or biting contest.
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