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THO

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:04 pm
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:04 pm
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"THO" <tho.DeleteThis@tho.tho.23.invalid> wrote...
>
> I'm making last minute plans for an overnight canoe or kayak trip. I
> don't own dry bags yet. Does anyone have any suggestions for using heavy
> garbage bags or other plastic sheeting to keep clothing and sleeping
> bags dry? I'm just looking to get through this trip and get some more
> experience before I start investing in gear.

Double-bag everything.

Heavy plastic bags, carefully handled, will work fine for an overnight or
weekend. When you only have to handle them once, things are a lot easier.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:36 pm
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"THO" <tho DeleteThis @tho.tho.23.invalid> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I'm making last minute plans for an overnight canoe or kayak trip. I
> don't own dry bags yet. Does anyone have any suggestions for using heavy
> garbage bags or other plastic sheeting to keep clothing and sleeping
> bags dry? I'm just looking to get through this trip and get some more
> experience before I start investing in gear.
>
> Thanks.

Get 4 ml contractors bags, fill them slightly less than half full, spin,
reverse over itself (so it's double bagged), and then close with rubber band
or extra heavy duty twist tie, or those reusable plastic closures some come
with.

They still won't tolerate abuse, but will be pretty damn watertight.

Do not leave wet gear in these when you get back - a new life form will
emerge...

Cricket
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:55 am
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On Aug 15, 10:04 pm, THO <t... DeleteThis @tho.tho.23.invalid> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm making last minute plans for an overnight canoe or kayak trip. I
> don't own dry bags yet. Does anyone have any suggestions for using heavy
> garbage bags or other plastic sheeting to keep clothing and sleeping
> bags dry? I'm just looking to get through this trip and get some more
> experience before I start investing in gear.
>
> Thanks.

Trash compactor bags are really tough and work in a pinch.
Try warehouse clubs like Costco, Sams Club, etc. for pricing advantage.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:58 am
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In rec.boats.paddle THO <tho.DeleteThis@tho.tho.23.invalid> wrote:
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> I'm making last minute plans for an overnight canoe or kayak trip. I
> don't own dry bags yet. Does anyone have any suggestions for using heavy
> garbage bags or other plastic sheeting to keep clothing and sleeping
> bags dry? I'm just looking to get through this trip and get some more
> experience before I start investing in gear.

Garbage bags are effective inside drybags that don't work, such as those
purchased cheaply at surplus stores. They are almost useless otherwise.

The most cost-effective drybag (that works) is the Sealine Boundary Bag.
I see it at REI for $80, a bit less at Campmor.

The only drybag that is absolutely waterproof when submerged (in a wrap
or flip situation) is the Watershed, but it is not cost-effective.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:18 pm
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I started canoe camping in 2005 with a trip to the Bowron Canoe Circuit
where weight is your biggest obstacle. We had the small dry bags and still
took plastic bags that proved very useful. Our dry bags didn't leak, but we
found that in trying to be too compact, we over filled the dry bags for
convenience considerations.
Some things you need often, others only once or twice a day. The plastic
bags
were the handiest items we took, even put a sleeping bag in one (2).
In truth, if I was going for an overnight trip, and had no other means to
keep things dry, I would definitely use plastic bags.
After all, you might decide this kind of camping is not your preference, and
having to throw a couple plastic bags in the trash never hurt my feelings.
Double bag things that may get abuse, or over wrap 3-4 like sized small bags
with a large bag to double protect.
Even though it's in the boat, it can still be sitting in water.

Packing things in smaller bags means you can load your boat much more evenly
rather than having a couple large bags that can only fit in one, maybe two
places in the boat.

Bill B


"THO" <tho.TakeThisOut@tho.tho.23.invalid> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I'm making last minute plans for an overnight canoe or kayak trip. I
> don't own dry bags yet. Does anyone have any suggestions for using heavy
> garbage bags or other plastic sheeting to keep clothing and sleeping
> bags dry? I'm just looking to get through this trip and get some more
> experience before I start investing in gear.
>
> Thanks.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:46 pm
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I wrote:
> The most cost-effective drybag (that works) is the Sealine Boundary Bag.
> I see it at REI for $80, a bit less at Campmor.

Sorry, prices have gone up on the Sealine while NRS drybag prices
have gone down. Their equivalent sized 2.2 Outfitter bag costs $47.
It doesn't have pack straps, but should perform about as well.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:19 am
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I have used two layers of heavy garbage bags. Fill the first, squeeze
the air out, and seal, then put it in a second and seal. I bought a
variety dry bags but ended up rarely using them because they are
somewhat less flexible and have fixed sizes. This is fine in a canoe,
but with a kayak, you want to be able to conform the size and shape of
the bundles to the size and shape of your hatches and compartments. But
if you use plastic, make sure it is a reasonably heavy gauge, and pack
spares.

THO wrote the following on 8/15/2007 10:04 PM:
> Hello,
>
> I'm making last minute plans for an overnight canoe or kayak trip. I
> don't own dry bags yet. Does anyone have any suggestions for using heavy
> garbage bags or other plastic sheeting to keep clothing and sleeping
> bags dry? I'm just looking to get through this trip and get some more
> experience before I start investing in gear.
>
> Thanks.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:55 am
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"THO" <tho.RemoveThis@tho.tho.23.invalid> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I'm making last minute plans for an overnight canoe or kayak trip. I
> don't own dry bags yet. Does anyone have any suggestions for using heavy
> garbage bags or other plastic sheeting to keep clothing and sleeping
> bags dry? I'm just looking to get through this trip and get some more
> experience before I start investing in gear.
>
> Thanks.

I think it is ziploc that came out with masivly large bags. I used one in my
pack of clothes, one for my sleeping bag. They are a pain to close, but,
once closed, they are great.

Micheal
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