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Since: Jul 24, 2003 Posts: 29
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 10:55 pm
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Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I
fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what
type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor (8
lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift. Any
suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 11:00 pm
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Marty S. wrote:
> Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I
> fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what
> type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor (8
> lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift. Any
> suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure.
>
Before trying another anchor,, try an anchor chain two to three feet
long, this will help that mushroom fall over and dig in.
Mushroom anchors are notorious about standing straight up, unless you
let out a lot of anchor line, drifting away from it, then giving it a
quick pull to flip it over on it's side
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Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 11:02 pm
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Suggest you get a heavier one of course!
"Marty S." <SkoConsult.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I
> fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what
> type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor
(8
> lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift.
Any
> suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure.
>
> --
> Marty S.
> Baltimore, MD USA
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Since: Dec 31, 2003 Posts: 349
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 11:03 pm
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On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 19:55:08 -0400, "Marty S." <SkoConsult RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:
>Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I
>fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what
>type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor (8
>lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift. Any
>suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure.
A small Danforth would probably work well. I use a small one for beach
anchoring. It will dig in when the boat starts to drift.
John H
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
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Since: Apr 17, 2004 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:21 am
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"Marty S." <SkoConsult.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I
> fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what
> type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor
(8
> lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift.
Any
> suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure.
Marty,
If you're having a problem with the mushroom anchor, try something like a
River Anchor. A 12 or 15 pound model with 3 feet of chain will hold your
boat very well.
A model like this will suffice.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTextId=45253&hvarDept=200&hvarEvent=&hvarClassCode=3&hvarSubCode=1&hvarTarget=browse" target="_blank">http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTextId=45253&hvarDep...00&hvar</a>
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Since: Jul 24, 2003 Posts: 29
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 5:32 am
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Steve.... you recommend this type (the river anchor) over the grapneling
hook or the "Navy" style?
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> "Marty S." <SkoConsult.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:5qadnZgqELSUM17d4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> > Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and
I
> > fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area),
what
> > type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom"
anchor
> (8
> > lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift.
> Any
> > suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure.
>
> Marty,
>
> If you're having a problem with the mushroom anchor, try something like a
> River Anchor. A 12 or 15 pound model with 3 feet of chain will hold your
> boat very well.
>
> A model like this will suffice.
>
>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTextId=45253&hvarDept=200&hvarEvent=&hvarClassCode=3&hvarSubCode=1&hvarTarget=browse" target="_blank">http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTextId=45253&hvarDep...00&hvar</a>
> --
> Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
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> G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
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Since: Apr 17, 2004 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:41 am
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"Marty S." <SkoConsult.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Steve.... you recommend this type (the river anchor) over the grapneling
> hook or the "Navy" style?
You've got what? A 12-14 (maybe 16 foot) aluminum boat??? Unless you're
fishing in some serious current and/or wind, a 12-15 pound River anchor will
give all the hold you're going to need. I was using this same style of
anchor (the 15 pound model) to hold a 17 foot glass boat and it worked well
in all but the hardest wind.
The thing to remember is to get the anchor tipped on it's side and to let
out enough anchor rope. There's more to anchoring a boat than dropping the
thing over the side and expecting it to hold. Figure to let out at least
twice the water depth in anchor rope in order to get it to hold properly.
This will get the anchor on it's side and the flukes dug into the bottom.
Make sure you've got enough quality rope, I use 75 or 100 feet (can't
remember which exactly) and it's good rope, not hemp and not braided nylon
ski rope. This is a 1/2" or 5/8" static kernmantle type rope, easy on the
hands and no stretch.
I don't like the Danforth style anchor because they can REALLY dig in and be
difficult to remove. And, in rocky bottoms, chances are, it'll stay there.
I went through three of them before I went to the River Anchor. Now, I
carry one of those (20 pound model) and a Richter Anchor
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.richteranchors.com/" target="_blank">http://www.richteranchors.com/</a> and my boat doesn't move. The Richter is
great, but not readily available, where you should be able to get a River
Anchor at Wal-Mart.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 6:42 pm
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Thank you, thank you, thank you for this link!!!
I saw this anchor in SOMETHING in print several years ago, catalogue or
magazine article, and promptly lost it, and could not remember the name. My
dad has an OMC/Grumman 16' aluminum that gives us both fits sometimes
getting it to hold at anchor in the wind, and when I saw the picture of this
anchor I knew that it would probably be the answer that we were looking for.
Hmm....
Gonna go and be sneaky on him. Order one and get it put on his boat while he
is out of town for the next two weeks. Hehe
Thanx again
Cast far
Bob
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> I went through three of them before I went to the River Anchor. Now, I
> carry one of those (20 pound model) and a Richter Anchor
> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.richteranchors.com/" target="_blank">http://www.richteranchors.com/</a> and my boat doesn't move. The Richter is
> great, but not readily available, where you should be able to get a River
> Anchor at Wal-Mart.
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> Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:28 pm
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"Bob" <dewop.TakeThisOut@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:220xc.54657$3x.53596@attbi_s54...
> Thank you, thank you, thank you for this link!!!
> I saw this anchor in SOMETHING in print several years ago, catalogue or
> magazine article, and promptly lost it, and could not remember the name. My
> dad has an OMC/Grumman 16' aluminum that gives us both fits sometimes
> getting it to hold at anchor in the wind, and when I saw the picture of this
> anchor I knew that it would probably be the answer that we were looking for.
>
> Hmm....
> Gonna go and be sneaky on him. Order one and get it put on his boat while he
> is out of town for the next two weeks. Hehe
LOL, you are a devious rascal. Can you talk to my kids about sneaking fishing stuff into my boat?
Glad you could use the link.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 12:44 am
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 15:42:54 GMT, "Bob" <dewop.DeleteThis@mchsi.com> wrote:
>My
>dad has an OMC/Grumman 16' aluminum that gives us both fits sometimes
>getting it to hold at anchor in the wind, and when I saw the picture of this
>anchor I knew that it would probably be the answer that we were looking for.
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The key to getting ANY anchor to hold is sufficient scope (ratio of
anchor line to water depth). 7 to 1 is considered ideal, 5 to 1 will
usually suffice. Also use a 3 or 4 foot length of chain as others
have mentioned. The implication is that if you are anchoring in 30
feet of water, you need between 150 and 200 feet of line. Many small
fishing boats do not carry that much. I've found that a mid-sized
canvas tote bag will hold 200 feet of 3/8 line, and the anchor. Just
lay the line into the bag, do not coil, and it will pay out with no
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 1:05 pm
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"Wayne.B" <waynebatrecdotboats.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The key to getting ANY anchor to hold is sufficient scope (ratio of
> anchor line to water depth). 7 to 1 is considered ideal, 5 to 1 will
> usually suffice. Also use a 3 or 4 foot length of chain as others
> have mentioned. The implication is that if you are anchoring in 30
> feet of water, you need between 150 and 200 feet of line. Many small
> fishing boats do not carry that much. I've found that a mid-sized
> canvas tote bag will hold 200 feet of 3/8 line, and the anchor. Just
> lay the line into the bag, do not coil, and it will pay out with no
> snarling or kinking.
>
The real problem is trying to get dear old dad to think like this. He is
rather set in his ways, but this is to be expected as he is now 70! He keeps
thinking about anchoring to fish a spot the same way he used to do it with a
little 14' aluminum row boat. And rather than argue with him, I just want to
get him an anchor that may work better with his 16' and the way that he
wants to use it.
Cast far
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 1:08 pm
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"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" <steve.RemoveThis@outdoorfrontiers.com> wrote in message
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> "Bob" <dewop.RemoveThis@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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> > Hmm....
> > Gonna go and be sneaky on him. Order one and get it put on his boat
while he
> > is out of town for the next two weeks. Hehe
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> LOL, you are a devious rascal. Can you talk to my kids about sneaking
fishing stuff into my boat?
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>
> Glad you could use the link.
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Right, sure thing. Once I learn how to do it. Can't get me own
flesh-'n-blood to sneak stuff in for me, and I have been working on him for
12 years now. But as soon as I figure out how to talk him into doing this, I
will come up and tackle your kids for you
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 6:41 am
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Wayne.B wrote:
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> The key to getting ANY anchor to hold is sufficient scope (ratio of
> anchor line to water depth). 7 to 1 is considered ideal, 5 to 1 will
> usually suffice. Also use a 3 or 4 foot length of chain as others
> have mentioned.
Took me a long time to realize what you are saying. Most people don't
realize the amount of rope required to hold a boat properly regardless
of anchor type.
> I've found that a mid-sized
> canvas tote bag will hold 200 feet of 3/8 line, and the anchor. Just
> lay the line into the bag, do not coil, and it will pay out with no
> snarling or kinking.
>
I'll have to give this a try. Nothing drives me crazy as fast as a
knotted up rope when trying to get a anchor out before drifting away
from the spot you want to be at. Right now I'm using polly rope with
fair success.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 3:15 pm
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Stupid question: Do you attach the rope to the chain and the chain to the
anchor OR attach both the rope and chain to the anchor, ie, chain is not
attached to rope?
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> "Marty S." <SkoConsult DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in message
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> > Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and
I
> > fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area),
what
> > type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom"
anchor
> (8
> > lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift.
> Any
> > suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure.
>
> Marty,
>
> If you're having a problem with the mushroom anchor, try something like a
> River Anchor. A 12 or 15 pound model with 3 feet of chain will hold your
> boat very well.
>
> A model like this will suffice.
>
>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTextId=45253&hvarDept=200&hvarEvent=&hvarClassCode=3&hvarSubCode=1&hvarTarget=browse" target="_blank">http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTextId=45253&hvarDep...00&hvar</a>
> --
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 6:26 pm
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"Sierra fisher" <bmk-jfk DeleteThis @charter.net.remove.invalid> wrote in message
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> Stupid question: Do you attach the rope to the chain and the chain to the
> anchor OR attach both the rope and chain to the anchor, ie, chain is not
> attached to rope?
Not a stupid question at all. Attach the chain to the anchor, the rope to
the chain. Bingo, now you're in business.
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