What anchor should I buy?

 >Jax got his experience on Lake Windy Bagel, much smaller than
 >Winnebago.

wayne got his experience in a bathtub reading magazines and navigating a rubber
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 >Rope. In all of his millennia handling boats, he uses rope.

that is the term used by boaters in the context of the Sea-Ray owner's
question.

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"JAXAshby" <jaxashby DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in message
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  > >Rope. In all of his millennia handling boats, he uses rope.
 >
 > that is the term used by boaters in the context of the Sea-Ray owner's
 > question.
 >
 > "line" is fishing line, "rope" is anchor rope.

Try anchor rode.

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billie, you spend too much time in the bathtub playing with the "ducky" and not
enough time on the water.

   >> >Put 8-10' of 1/4" to 5/16" galvanized
   >> >chain between the anchor and 3/8" anchor line / rope.
  >>
  >> in all my years in and around boats on Midwest lakes, I never saw, nor
 >ever
  >> heard of, using chain on an anchor. Not once. You tie the rope to the
  >> mushroom and drop it overboard.
 >
 >You ain't seen much. First you do not use rope on an anchor. And if there
 >is wind, on a lake, you want the chain to help get the anchor to set. Try
 >Okeechobee. I bet the wind can blow bit time there.
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 >"JAXAshby" <jaxashby.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
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   >> >Rope. In all of his millennia handling boats, he uses rope.
  >>
  >> that is the term used by boaters in the context of the Sea-Ray owner's
  >> question.
  >>
  >> "line" is fishing line, "rope" is anchor rope.
 >
 >Try anchor rode.
 >
 >Eisboch


Acch!

You're all right, sort of.

"Rope" is a proper term for certain types of cordage aboard a boat.
Technically, it is supposed to apply to cordage that is 1" or more in diameter,
with lesser sizes considered "small stuff", or "twine". Nobody in 2004 uses the
term "small stuff" on a pleasure boat, and we all think of "twine" as something
you use to wrap a parcel or lash a Christmas tree to the roof of the family
station wagon. Rope works.
The guy who refers to unemployed cordage
as "rope" isn't lubberly- it's the white slacks, blue blazer, yacht clubber
gripping the champagne flute with an extended pinky finger and feigning disgust
whenever anybody uses the term "rope" that
displays ignorance on the topic.

When rope is put to work, it can become a "line." It can be a bow line, a stern
line, a spring line, a breast line, etc.
But rope can work without being a line of any type. It can be a halyard, a
lashing, a bell rope, or any number of things not properly considered a "line."

An achor rode is the rope, chain, cable, or combination thereof that connects
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On 18 May 2004 13:56:06 GMT, gould0738.RemoveThis@aol.com (Gould 0738) wrote:

 >"Rope" is a proper term for certain types of cordage aboard a boat.

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Now I understand.

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 >Now I understand.
 >
 >Rope is the stuuf you use to make knots...

Hmmm.......

A guy who hangs on every phrase that Limbaugh speaks is a ditto head.

A guy who smoke pot is a pothead.

So, what's a guy who is hung up on knots?

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On 18 May 2004 15:11:00 GMT, gould0738 DeleteThis @aol.com (Gould 0738) wrote:

 >So, what's a guy who is hung up on knots?

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A guy hung up on knots is, ugh, a little stretched out...

Just got a phone call from the boatyard doing the pressure testing on
the GB fuel tanks. Not good it turns out.

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Wayne.B wrote:
 > Just got a phone call from the boatyard doing the pressure testing on
 > the GB fuel tanks. Not good it turns out.
 >
 > So what's your favorite way of replacing fuel tanks on a GB49?

Depends. Where are they, how difficult to access, what do you want to
replace them with, do you mind cutting big panels out of the hull?

I am thinking ahead to replacing our fuel tanks, and so far I have
considered two options: cutting them up in place, and replacing them
with fiberglass tanks molded in place (I could premold some of the
sections); or cutting the tops off the tanks and putting bladder tanks
inside the old tanks.

The classic way to remove & replace fuel tanks is to cut big panels out
of the hull, yank the tanks, put in new ones, and refiberglass the
panels into place. Just as strong and (given a reasonable level of skill
with fiberglass) nobody could ever tell it was cut. Yet somehow I don't
want to do this to our boat....

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It is not a rope on the boat, it is a line, and when it is attached to the
anchor, it becomes a rode.
Bill

"Peggie Hall" <peghall.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
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 > Calif Bill wrote:
 >
  > > You ain't seen much. First you do not use rope on an anchor.
 >
 > According to whom???? Or do you only mean that rope shouldn't be
 > connected directly to the anchor?
 >
 > I'd guess that 99% of small powerboat anchor lines are rope...and very
 > few of 'em have any chain between the anchor and the rode. Not that it
 > isn't a good idea...they just don't have any.
 >
 > The major mistake many of 'em make is in just tying the line onto the
 > anchor with a unidentifiable mess that doesn't even come close to
 > resembling any recognized knot instead of using a thimble and a shackle.
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 > Peggie
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At least I get to water.

"JAXAshby" <jaxashby.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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 > billie, you spend too much time in the bathtub playing with the "ducky"
and not
 > enough time on the water.
 >
   > >> >Put 8-10' of 1/4" to 5/16" galvanized
   > >> >chain between the anchor and 3/8" anchor line / rope.
   > >>
   > >> in all my years in and around boats on Midwest lakes, I never saw, nor
  > >ever
   > >> heard of, using chain on an anchor. Not once. You tie the rope to the
   > >> mushroom and drop it overboard.
  > >
  > >You ain't seen much. First you do not use rope on an anchor. And if
there
  > >is wind, on a lake, you want the chain to help get the anchor to set.
Try
  > >Okeechobee. I bet the wind can blow bit time there.
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For Jax, who is a stickler on semantics as well as you the English lit
major, an anchor rode is a line until attached. For my 14' aluminum boat, I
used poly rope and 5' of 1/4" chain to a 5# danforth knockoff ancuor for
years. Went to an 8# when after fishing the Sacramento river, I plowed the
bottom.
Bill

"Harry Krause" <etaoin_shrdlu-no-spam.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > Calif Bill wrote:
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  > > "JAXAshby" <jaxashby.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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   > > > >Put 8-10' of 1/4" to 5/16" galvanized
   > > > >chain between the anchor and 3/8" anchor line / rope.
   > > >
   > > > in all my years in and around boats on Midwest lakes, I never saw, nor
  > > ever
   > > > heard of, using chain on an anchor. Not once. You tie the rope to
the
   > > > mushroom and drop it overboard.
  > >
  > > You ain't seen much. First you do not use rope on an anchor.
 >
 > Of course you do and can. Under some conditions, all you want is a
 > little "river" anchor and 20' of light line. Depends on the conditions.
 > Or are you one of those who are hung up on "line, rope or rode?"
 >
 >
 >
 > And if there
  > > is wind, on a lake, you want the chain to help get the anchor to set.
Try
  > > Okeechobee. I bet the wind can blow bit time there.
 >
 >
 > I've fished the Big O nearly a dozen times. Never anchored once while
 > fishing. Did anchor several times on the edges of the canals there, and
 > used an 8# "river" anchor with some light line. No chain. No need for
 > chain.
 >
 > When fishing the ICW shallows in Florida, I didn't use chain, either. In
 > fact, I simply tied a line around a smooth, round weight. The water was
 > shallow and I didn't want to rip up any oyster beds.
 >
 >
 > Under certain circumstances, the "hard and fast" rules simply do not
apply.
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 >It is not a rope on the boat, it is a line, and when it is attached to the
 >anchor, it becomes a rode.
 >Bill

No, not true Bill.

It's not a line if its a rope.

A rope can become a line when it is put to use.

From Lenfesty: (a widely acknowledged arbiter of nautical verbiage)

line (n) The word applied to rope in many of its functional applications aboard
ship...

(Lefesty continues with an observation that rope is not always called "line".)

......there are many exceptions, such as boltrope, footrope, and bell rope, or
halyard, sheet, and cable.

Regarding the overuse of the term "line", Lenfesty declares:

Some of the most specious and arbitrary writing has arisen over the use of the
word "rope" on seagoing vessels. Some writers flatly declare that when cordage
comes aboard a vessel if is line unless it is specifically named, as with
boltrope; but this bit of mystique was unheard of a hundred years or so ago.

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Nobody would ever say, "When you attach an achor to a halyard..........." so
why is it corect, indeed claimed to be the only correct option, to say "when
you attach an anchor to a line." When you attach an achor to a bow line, stern
line, breast line, or spring line.....you look pretty silly in my book.

The reason we don't have an anchor "line" is that we call that use of rope a
"rode".

I think this "line" fixation might have originated with you guys who use your
boats for rod and reel fishing. You call everything you can spool onto a reel a
fishing "line". It would be pretty ridiculous to refer to fishing rope, twine,
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