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sonic_soul

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 1:26 pm
Post subject: need advice repairing a waverunner fiberglass body nic
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hi,
i was wondering what kind of materials/tools will be needed to fix a
small fiberglass hole on the side of a wave runner.
the nic is about 2 inch circle and it went all the way through
fiberglass to its underlying material, so more than just painting it
will be needed. some sort of fiberglass compound i can fill the void
with ? and than some sort of marine paint on top ?
TIA

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 8:04 pm
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actually i need some advice on the process of fixing it as well. thank you.

squarewave24.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com (sonic_soul) wrote in message news:<f05c562f.0307110926.766e7f98.TakeThisOut@posting.google.com>...
 > hi,
 > i was wondering what kind of materials/tools will be needed to fix a
 > small fiberglass hole on the side of a wave runner.
 > the nic is about 2 inch circle and it went all the way through
 > fiberglass to its underlying material, so more than just painting it
 > will be needed. some sort of fiberglass compound i can fill the void
 > with ? and than some sort of marine paint on top ?
 > TIA<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2003 7:20 am
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squarewave24.DeleteThis@hotmail.com (sonic_soul) wrote in message news:<f05c562f.0307111604.73e20a08.DeleteThis@posting.google.com>...
 > actually i need some advice on the process of fixing it as well. thank you.
 >
 > squarewave24.DeleteThis@hotmail.com (sonic_soul) wrote in message news:<f05c562f.0307110926.766e7f98.DeleteThis@posting.google.com>...
  > > hi,
  > > i was wondering what kind of materials/tools will be needed to fix a
  > > small fiberglass hole on the side of a wave runner.
  > > the nic is about 2 inch circle and it went all the way through
  > > fiberglass to its underlying material, so more than just painting it
  > > will be needed. some sort of fiberglass compound i can fill the void
  > > with ? and than some sort of marine paint on top ?
  > > TIA

Looks like you are not gonna get a lot of help here... Maybe you
should not have said it was a waverunner Sad... But anyway, it should
be an easy fix, however might need more info to send you on the right
path. Do you have access to both sides of the part? If so there is a
nice keyway patch technique that Payson and others use where you sand
the edges on both sides to form a bevel on both sides. Then you put
some cloth or mat with resin into the hole and cover both sides with
waxpaper and something to hold it in place until it dries, painting it
after is out of my range..
If you need more info of need to ask more questions, give me a buzz,
my number is on the front of my website, I take calls days, weekends
too. Please not to early or late...
Scotty from SmallBoats.com<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 12:03 am
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hey, thank you for this advice !
actually the hole is accessible from one side only since the other
side is inisde the waverunner.
can theese instructions still be applied to 1 sided fix ?
maybe with some small modifications ?

 >
 >Looks like you are not gonna get a lot of help here... Maybe you
 >should not have said it was a waverunner Sad... But anyway, it should
 >be an easy fix, however might need more info to send you on the right
 >path. Do you have access to both sides of the part? If so there is a
 >nice keyway patch technique that Payson and others use where you sand
 >the edges on both sides to form a bevel on both sides. Then you put
 >some cloth or mat with resin into the hole and cover both sides with
 >waxpaper and something to hold it in place until it dries, painting it
 >after is out of my range..
 >If you need more info of need to ask more questions, give me a buzz,
 >my number is on the front of my website, I take calls days, weekends
 >too. Please not to early or late...
 >Scotty from SmallBoats.com<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 2:03 pm
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sonic_soul <nospam.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<1604hvo1g8v9urqpr8opcfvg0m3q032u7e.DeleteThis@4ax.com>...
 > hey, thank you for this advice !
 > actually the hole is accessible from one side only since the other
 > side is inisde the waverunner.
 > can theese instructions still be applied to 1 sided fix ?
 > maybe with some small modifications ?

Sure, but I wish I could see a photo. Anyway, re-reading your post I
see that you say it went through the side into the backing, is the
backing still there? If it is, you can use it. Make a thickened paste
of polyester or epoxy and some thickener and smear some into the hole
against the backing (after cleaning the hole edges first) and lay some
layers of say, 6 oz fiberglass and thickened resin into the hole and
build it up until it is flush with the surrounding area. You will need
to taper the edge of the hole so you can have some overlapping of the
glass into the existing structure. If the hull is say 1/4 inch thick,
taper back the edge of the hole at least 1/2 to 3/4 inch and lay the
layers in. When it dries, sand and paint. I am suggesting polyester
here as it is a small hole and the thing is probably made with it too.
Like I said before, as far as painting gelcoat, that is something
someone else will have to address.
Scotty from SmallBoats.com

 >
  > >
  > >Looks like you are not gonna get a lot of help here... Maybe you
  > >should not have said it was a waverunner Sad... But anyway, it should
  > >be an easy fix, however might need more info to send you on the right
  > >path. Do you have access to both sides of the part? If so there is a
  > >nice keyway patch technique that Payson and others use where you sand
  > >the edges on both sides to form a bevel on both sides. Then you put
  > >some cloth or mat with resin into the hole and cover both sides with
  > >waxpaper and something to hold it in place until it dries, painting it
  > >after is out of my range..
  > >If you need more info of need to ask more questions, give me a buzz,
  > >my number is on the front of my website, I take calls days, weekends
  > >too. Please not to early or late...
  > >Scotty from SmallBoats.com<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 2:03 pm
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sonic_soul <nospam DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<1604hvo1g8v9urqpr8opcfvg0m3q032u7e DeleteThis @4ax.com>...
 > hey, thank you for this advice !
 > actually the hole is accessible from one side only since the other
 > side is inisde the waverunner.
 > can theese instructions still be applied to 1 sided fix ?
 > maybe with some small modifications ?

Sure, but I wish I could see a photo. Anyway, re-reading your post I
see that you say it went through the side into the backing, is the
backing still there? If it is, you can use it. Make a thickened paste
of polyester or epoxy and some thickener and smear some into the hole
against the backing (after cleaning the hole edges first) and lay some
layers of say, 6 oz fiberglass and thickened resin into the hole and
build it up until it is flush with the surrounding area. You will need
to taper the edge of the hole so you can have some overlapping of the
glass into the existing structure. If the hull is say 1/4 inch thick,
taper back the edge of the hole at least 1/2 to 3/4 inch and lay the
layers in. When it dries, sand and paint. I am suggesting polyester
here as it is a small hole and the thing is probably made with it too.
Like I said before, as far as painting gelcoat, that is something
someone else will have to address.
Scotty from SmallBoats.com

 >
  > >
  > >Looks like you are not gonna get a lot of help here... Maybe you
  > >should not have said it was a waverunner Sad... But anyway, it should
  > >be an easy fix, however might need more info to send you on the right
  > >path. Do you have access to both sides of the part? If so there is a
  > >nice keyway patch technique that Payson and others use where you sand
  > >the edges on both sides to form a bevel on both sides. Then you put
  > >some cloth or mat with resin into the hole and cover both sides with
  > >waxpaper and something to hold it in place until it dries, painting it
  > >after is out of my range..
  > >If you need more info of need to ask more questions, give me a buzz,
  > >my number is on the front of my website, I take calls days, weekends
  > >too. Please not to early or late...
  > >Scotty from SmallBoats.com<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 1:37 pm
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Sonic,

Best use epoxy in case there is anything back there like foam that
polyester would dissolve.

Ron
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 9:23 am
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"Backyard Renegade" <skcusemans RemoveThis @eudoramail.com> wrote in message
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 > squarewave24 RemoveThis @hotmail.com (sonic_soul) wrote in message
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  > > actually i need some advice on the process of fixing it as well. thank
you.
I use epoxy resin and fiberglass cloth. Regular car paint works well.
Evercoat makes an SMC resin that is easy to work with for small repairs,
with fiberglass mat.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 9:25 am
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"Ron Thornton" <gourt.RemoveThis@webtv.net> wrote in message
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 > Sonic,
 >
 > Best use epoxy in case there is anything back there like foam that
 > polyester would dissolve.

Polyester resin will not stick to the SMC those hulls are made of.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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