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Jim29

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 4:51 pm
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Once upon a time (in the days of Clinton) the White House published a nice
tasteful webpage. see

http://web.archive.org/web/19981202165238/www.whitehouse.gov/WH/Welcome-nt.html

Then along came Bush and things turned political

www.whitehouse.gov.

Of interest also is that cached copies showing the history of Whitehouse.gov
during the Clinton administration are hard to find, but I can find archived
copies of my ISP home page back to day 1

http://web.archive.org/web/*/rpa.net

I used wayback machine to find these. If anyone else can find a better
history of whitehouse.gov, I would be interested.

http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 5:09 pm
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First I'm sorry for mispelling whitehouse in the topic line.
I have learned more
see
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://weblog.siliconvalley.com/column/dangillmor/archives/001450.shtml" target="_blank">http://weblog.siliconvalley.com/column/dangillmor/archives/001450.shtml</a>

Where there is notice that someone who controls Whitehouse.gov set loose a
bot

Begin quote of comment
"
Well, go to <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/robots.txt" target="_blank">http://www.whitehouse.gov/robots.txt</a> and go see for yourself.
It's *only* 61K, and I'll excerpt a little for you here Mr. Mortimer.

# robots.txt for <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/" target="_blank">http://www.whitehouse.gov/</a>

User-agent: *
Disallow: /cgi-bin
Disallow: /search
Disallow: /query.html
Disallow: /help
Disallow: /1/2/3/4/iraq
Disallow: /1/2/3/4/text
Disallow: /360pics/iraq
Disallow: /360pics/text
Disallow: /911/911day/iraq
Disallow: /911/911day/text
Disallow: /911/heroes/iraq
Disallow: /911/heroes/text
Disallow: /911/iraq
Disallow: /911/patriotism/iraq
Disallow: /911/patriotism/text
Disallow: /911/patriotism2/iraq
Disallow: /911/patriotism2/text
Disallow: /911/progress/iraq
Disallow: /911/progress/text

It was done. It was *obviously* done. As a constituent, I am *not* amused!"



Kinda makes me go hummmmm



"Jim" <Jimdotedu.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:_lKpc.5050$1A.2975@news01.roc.ny...
 > Once upon a time (in the days of Clinton) the White House published a nice
 > tasteful webpage. see
 >
 >
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://web.archive.org/web/19981202165238/www.whitehouse.gov/WH/Welcome-nt.html" target="_blank">http://web.archive.org/web/19981202165238/www.whitehouse.gov/WH/Welcome-nt.html</a>
 >
 > Then along came Bush and things turned political
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.whitehouse.gov.</font" target="_blank">www.whitehouse.gov.</font</a>>
 >
 > Of interest also is that cached copies showing the history of
Whitehouse.gov
 > during the Clinton administration are hard to find, but I can find
archived
 > copies of my ISP home page back to day 1
 >
 > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://web.archive.org/web/" target="_blank">http://web.archive.org/web/</a>*/rpa.net
 >
 > I used wayback machine to find these. If anyone else can find a better
 > history of whitehouse.gov, I would be interested.
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.archive.org/web/web.php</font" target="_blank">http://www.archive.org/web/web.php</font</a>>
 >
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 6:57 pm
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Jim,

You don't spell whorehouse with a "t".

Smile

(just kidding)
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 6:11 am
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This:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.differentstrings.info/archives/003137.html" target="_blank">http://www.differentstrings.info/archives/003137.html</a>

Yesterday, Atrios posted a story about how the folks at The White House
Website have changed their robots.txt file to prevent search engines
from cataloging pages about Iraq. While no one is quite sure, yet, why
they're doing this, one theory that has been floated is that it is to
prevent those pages from being cached by Google, thus making it harder
to prove that anything has been changed - such as earlier this year when
they edited all the pages that has referred to Bush declaring that
"combat operations" in Iraq had ended to show, instead, that Bush had
said that "major combat operations" had ended.

And the line we are supposed to believe is that John Kerry "flip/flops"

I have a link somewhere that clearly shows the whitehouse web page
before and after the quote was changed. Want me to find it?
Jim


Jim wrote:

 > First I'm sorry for mispelling whitehouse in the topic line.
 > I have learned more
 > see
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://weblog.siliconvalley.com/column/dangillmor/archives/001450.shtml</font" target="_blank">http://weblog.siliconvalley.com/column/dangillmor/archives/001450.shtml</font</a>>
 >
 > Where there is notice that someone who controls Whitehouse.gov set loose a
 > bot
 >
 > Begin quote of comment
 > "
 > Well, go to <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/robots.txt" target="_blank">http://www.whitehouse.gov/robots.txt</a> and go see for yourself.
 > It's *only* 61K, and I'll excerpt a little for you here Mr. Mortimer.
 >
<font color=purple> > # robots.txt for <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/</font" target="_blank">http://www.whitehouse.gov/</font</a>>
 >
 > User-agent: *
 > Disallow: /cgi-bin
 > Disallow: /search
 > Disallow: /query.html
 > Disallow: /help
 > Disallow: /1/2/3/4/iraq
 > Disallow: /1/2/3/4/text
 > Disallow: /360pics/iraq
 > Disallow: /360pics/text
 > Disallow: /911/911day/iraq
 > Disallow: /911/911day/text
 > Disallow: /911/heroes/iraq
 > Disallow: /911/heroes/text
 > Disallow: /911/iraq
 > Disallow: /911/patriotism/iraq
 > Disallow: /911/patriotism/text
 > Disallow: /911/patriotism2/iraq
 > Disallow: /911/patriotism2/text
 > Disallow: /911/progress/iraq
 > Disallow: /911/progress/text
 >
 > It was done. It was *obviously* done. As a constituent, I am *not* amused!"
 >
 >
 >
 > Kinda makes me go hummmmm
 >
 >
 >
 > "Jim" <Jimdotedu.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
 > news:_lKpc.5050$1A.2975@news01.roc.ny...
 >
  >>Once upon a time (in the days of Clinton) the White House published a nice
  >>tasteful webpage. see
  >>
  >>
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://web.archive.org/web/19981202165238/www.whitehouse.gov/WH/Welcome-nt.html</font" target="_blank">http://web.archive.org/web/19981202165238/www.whitehouse.gov/WH/Welcom...t.html&</a>>
 >
  >>Then along came Bush and things turned political
  >>
  >>www.whitehouse.gov.
  >>
  >>Of interest also is that cached copies showing the history of
 >
 > Whitehouse.gov
 >
  >>during the Clinton administration are hard to find, but I can find
 >
 > archived
 >
  >>copies of my ISP home page back to day 1
  >>
  >>http://web.archive.org/web/*/rpa.net
  >>
  >>I used wayback machine to find these. If anyone else can find a better
  >>history of whitehouse.gov, I would be interested.
  >>
  >>http://www.archive.org/web/web.php
  >>
  >>
 >
 >
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 6:18 am
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I would like very much to see a comparison between the last days of Clinton
and the current use of Whitehouse.gov. Please post any links you can find


"Jim" <Jim.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > This:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.differentstrings.info/archives/003137.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.differentstrings.info/archives/003137.html</font</a>>
 >
 > Yesterday, Atrios posted a story about how the folks at The White House
 > Website have changed their robots.txt file to prevent search engines
 > from cataloging pages about Iraq. While no one is quite sure, yet, why
 > they're doing this, one theory that has been floated is that it is to
 > prevent those pages from being cached by Google, thus making it harder
 > to prove that anything has been changed - such as earlier this year when
 > they edited all the pages that has referred to Bush declaring that
 > "combat operations" in Iraq had ended to show, instead, that Bush had
 > said that "major combat operations" had ended.
 >
 > And the line we are supposed to believe is that John Kerry "flip/flops"
 >
 > I have a link somewhere that clearly shows the whitehouse web page
 > before and after the quote was changed. Want me to find it?
 > Jim
 >
 >
 > Jim wrote:
 >
  > > First I'm sorry for mispelling whitehouse in the topic line.
  > > I have learned more
  > > see
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://weblog.siliconvalley.com/column/dangillmor/archives/001450.shtml</font" target="_blank">http://weblog.siliconvalley.com/column/dangillmor/archives/001450.shtml</font</a>>
  > >
  > > Where there is notice that someone who controls Whitehouse.gov set loose
a
  > > bot
  > >
  > > Begin quote of comment
  > > "
  > > Well, go to <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/robots.txt" target="_blank">http://www.whitehouse.gov/robots.txt</a> and go see for
yourself.
  > > It's *only* 61K, and I'll excerpt a little for you here Mr. Mortimer.
  > >
<font color=green>  > > # robots.txt for <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/</font" target="_blank">http://www.whitehouse.gov/</font</a>>
  > >
  > > User-agent: *
  > > Disallow: /cgi-bin
  > > Disallow: /search
  > > Disallow: /query.html
  > > Disallow: /help
  > > Disallow: /1/2/3/4/iraq
  > > Disallow: /1/2/3/4/text
  > > Disallow: /360pics/iraq
  > > Disallow: /360pics/text
  > > Disallow: /911/911day/iraq
  > > Disallow: /911/911day/text
  > > Disallow: /911/heroes/iraq
  > > Disallow: /911/heroes/text
  > > Disallow: /911/iraq
  > > Disallow: /911/patriotism/iraq
  > > Disallow: /911/patriotism/text
  > > Disallow: /911/patriotism2/iraq
  > > Disallow: /911/patriotism2/text
  > > Disallow: /911/progress/iraq
  > > Disallow: /911/progress/text
  > >
  > > It was done. It was *obviously* done. As a constituent, I am *not*
amused!"
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > Kinda makes me go hummmmm
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > "Jim" <Jimdotedu.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
  > > news:_lKpc.5050$1A.2975@news01.roc.ny...
  > >
   > >>Once upon a time (in the days of Clinton) the White House published a
nice
   > >>tasteful webpage. see
   > >>
   > >>
  > >
  > >
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://web.archive.org/web/19981202165238/www.whitehouse.gov/WH/Welcome-nt.html" target="_blank">http://web.archive.org/web/19981202165238/www.whitehouse.gov/WH/Welcome-nt.html</a>
  > >
   > >>Then along came Bush and things turned political
   > >>
   > >>www.whitehouse.gov.
   > >>
   > >>Of interest also is that cached copies showing the history of
  > >
  > > Whitehouse.gov
  > >
   > >>during the Clinton administration are hard to find, but I can find
  > >
  > > archived
  > >
   > >>copies of my ISP home page back to day 1
   > >>
   > >>http://web.archive.org/web/*/rpa.net
   > >>
   > >>I used wayback machine to find these. If anyone else can find a better
   > >>history of whitehouse.gov, I would be interested.
   > >>
   > >>http://www.archive.org/web/web.php
   > >>
   > >>
  > >
  > >
  > >
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 12:11 pm
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"Jim" <Jimdotedu RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Very interesting thread, Jim, even if it is all you responding to yourself.

Seriously, I feel the Whitehouse & other government sites should not
disallow archiving. If something is on a governement website it is
public information paid for by tax dollars.

While I'm no fan of Bush, and haven't even followed your whitehouse.gov
link to look yet - - I will note this about the comparison between Clinton
and Bush web sites: The use, understanding, and roll of the internet have
changed a LOT between Clinton's time and Bush's. That may or may not
justtify a more political Whitehouse.GOV site, but it at least need to be
considered. The Internet, or "Information Super Highway" as it was
called ad nausium back then, REALLY got the publics attention around
1994/1996. But even from 2001 to today - the realization of the
political power and uses of the internet has changed DRASTICLY.

Comparing Clinton era use of the internet to Bush era use might
be an unfair comparison on some levels.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 4:52 pm
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Check the addresses GAry -- I responded to my post once to apologise for a
spelling error, and now this one, -- there are several other Jims here, I
know it can get confusing. Maybe we should all pick a number Jim1,2,3 ect.
"Gary Warner" <jabadoodle.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > "Jim" <Jimdotedu.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
 > news:_lKpc.5050$1A.2975@news01.roc.ny...
 >
 > Very interesting thread, Jim, even if it is all you responding to
yourself.
 >
 > Seriously, I feel the Whitehouse & other government sites should not
 > disallow archiving. If something is on a governement website it is
 > public information paid for by tax dollars.
 >
 > While I'm no fan of Bush, and haven't even followed your whitehouse.gov
 > link to look yet - - I will note this about the comparison between Clinton
 > and Bush web sites: The use, understanding, and roll of the internet have
 > changed a LOT between Clinton's time and Bush's. That may or may not
 > justtify a more political Whitehouse.GOV site, but it at least need to be
 > considered. The Internet, or "Information Super Highway" as it was
 > called ad nausium back then, REALLY got the publics attention around
 > 1994/1996. But even from 2001 to today - the realization of the
 > political power and uses of the internet has changed DRASTICLY.
 >
 > Comparing Clinton era use of the internet to Bush era use might
 > be an unfair comparison on some levels.
 >
 >
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 4:52 pm
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"Jim" <Jimdotedu.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > Check the addresses GAry -- I responded to my post once to apologise for a
 > spelling error, and now this one, -- there are several other Jims here, I
 > know it can get confusing. Maybe we should all pick a number Jim1,2,3
ect.

My appologies.

And I wasn't trying to knock you, just be a little funny. But
I guess the joke is on me Wink<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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