Waterproof Screens

Wayne.B wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:59:13 -0500, Jack Erbes
> wrote:
>
> >For what you spend for a good 12-15" display you can buy a
> >Raymarine C120 and some chart chips.
>
> ====================================
>
> That's probably true if you are talking about a marine waterproof
> display, although I prefer to have both. With the price of small, 15
> inch, flat panel displays now down into the $200 range you can use one
> of those, protect it reasonably well, and take your chances without
> risking a king's ransom. I have an ordinary 15 inch flat panel which
> has now survived 5 years on two different boats. I protect it (when
> necessary) with one of those large platic envelopes that Maptech sells
> to protect their chartbooks. Brightness is reasonably good, although
> not as good as my Furuno chart plotter, it is brighter than most
> laptop screens. I think if you mounted one on a pivot arm you could
> probably use it either at the nav station or in the companionway area.

There has been some discussion on the ssca forum recently about laptops
vs chartplotters. On fellow commented that he tried a 15 inch LCD
screen at the helm but found it too bright at night. He could not dim
it enough. What has been your experience?
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:59:13 -0500, Jack Erbes
wrote:

>For what you spend for a good 12-15" display you can buy a
>Raymarine C120 and some chart chips.

====================================

That's probably true if you are talking about a marine waterproof
display, although I prefer to have both. With the price of small, 15
inch, flat panel displays now down into the $200 range you can use one
of those, protect it reasonably well, and take your chances without
risking a king's ransom. I have an ordinary 15 inch flat panel which
has now survived 5 years on two different boats. I protect it (when
necessary) with one of those large platic envelopes that Maptech sells
to protect their chartbooks. Brightness is reasonably good, although
not as good as my Furuno chart plotter, it is brighter than most
laptop screens. I think if you mounted one on a pivot arm you could
probably use it either at the nav station or in the companionway area.
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On 30 Dec 2005 21:08:32 -0800, wrote:

>On fellow commented that he tried a 15 inch LCD
>screen at the helm but found it too bright at night. He could not dim
>it enough. What has been your experience?

I have the same issue. At night I switch back to using just the
laptop screen which is dimmer, and close the cover when I don't need
to see it. I have the advantage of also having a fairly nice Furuno
chart plotter which dims down to very reasonable levels.

The advantage of having both is that I prefer the route planning and
tracking on the Maptech OSN software, and it gives a better wide angle
perspective in conventional raster mode. The Furuno is ideal for
going one waypoint to another and zooming in for good detail. It also
integrates nicely with the RADAR.
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:49:56 -0500, Jack Erbes
wrote:

>It would be great if you could find specs that give you the brightness
>and contrast ratio expressed as meaningful range of appropriate values
>and as they relate to day and night viewing in the real world.

=====================================

Yes. I ended up buying my Furuno system on the strength of a
Practical Sailor report that evaluated all available 10 inch screens.
They thought Furuno had the best daytime visibility in direct
sunlight, and that all of the other feature differences between units
were more or less a dead heat in the final analysis.

We have not been disappointed and everyone else who has come aboard
always comments favorably.
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Wayne.B wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:59:13 -0500, Jack Erbes
> wrote:
>
>> For what you spend for a good 12-15" display you can buy a
>> Raymarine C120 and some chart chips.
>
> ====================================
>
> That's probably true if you are talking about a marine waterproof
> display, although I prefer to have both. With the price of small, 15
> inch, flat panel displays now down into the $200 range you can use one
> of those, protect it reasonably well, and take your chances without
> risking a king's ransom. I have an ordinary 15 inch flat panel which
> has now survived 5 years on two different boats. I protect it (when
> necessary) with one of those large platic envelopes that Maptech sells
> to protect their chartbooks. Brightness is reasonably good, although
> not as good as my Furuno chart plotter, it is brighter than most
> laptop screens. I think if you mounted one on a pivot arm you could
> probably use it either at the nav station or in the companionway area.

I agree, and it saves you having to take out a mortgage on a real daylight
waterproof screen.
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Thanks to all who have contributed. I went to the boat show, and there
appears to be one coming out in February at a reasonably sensible price.
I'll believe it when I see it

Phil


"Jack Erbes" wrote in message

> Phil Stanton wrote:
>
>> Can anybody point me in the direction of a 12" sunlight viewable,
>> waterproof screen to work from the external VGA port on my Laptop. I want
>> to be able to see my navigation software at the helm as well as at the
>> chart table.
>> Thanks
>>
>
> A quick google for "marine display" will bring you a lot of hits, here are
> a few:
>
> http://www.argonautcomputer.com/displays_tflex.htm
> http://www.nauticomp.com/
> http://www.navstore.com/marina_displays.asp
>
> To run it off of a PC you'll want to get a touchscreen model. Anyone that
> says "I don't need that, I'm only going to look at it..." has not been
> there. And anyone that says "I'll use a cordless (name any human
> interface device)..." has not tried it yet.
>
> I've been around some good sunlight displays and have not seen a good one
> yet that was not about the same price as buying a good chart plotter. For
> what you spend for a good 12-15" display you can buy a Raymarine C120 and
> some chart chips.
>
> Jack
>
> --
> Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
> (also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
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Who is coming out with this monitor? Which boat show?

thanks
John

"Phil Stanton" wrote in message

> Thanks to all who have contributed. I went to the boat show, and there
> appears to be one coming out in February at a reasonably sensible price.
> I'll believe it when I see it
>
> Phil
>
>
> "Jack Erbes" wrote in message
>
>> Phil Stanton wrote:
>>
>>> Can anybody point me in the direction of a 12" sunlight viewable,
>>> waterproof screen to work from the external VGA port on my Laptop. I
>>> want to be able to see my navigation software at the helm as well as at
>>> the chart table.
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>
>> A quick google for "marine display" will bring you a lot of hits, here
>> are a few:
>>
>> http://www.argonautcomputer.com/displays_tflex.htm
>> http://www.nauticomp.com/
>> http://www.navstore.com/marina_displays.asp
>>
>> To run it off of a PC you'll want to get a touchscreen model. Anyone
>> that says "I don't need that, I'm only going to look at it..." has not
>> been there. And anyone that says "I'll use a cordless (name any human
>> interface device)..." has not tried it yet.
>>
>> I've been around some good sunlight displays and have not seen a good one
>> yet that was not about the same price as buying a good chart plotter.
>> For what you spend for a good 12-15" display you can buy a Raymarine C120
>> and some chart chips.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> --
>> Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
>> (also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
>
>
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London Boat show. What planet do you live on!!!

Keep an eye on http://www.vasari.net/

Alan Vasari is hoping to be in production in March 2006

Phil


"johnhh" wrote in message

> Who is coming out with this monitor? Which boat show?
>
> thanks
> John
>
> "Phil Stanton" wrote in message
>
>> Thanks to all who have contributed. I went to the boat show, and there
>> appears to be one coming out in February at a reasonably sensible price.
>> I'll believe it when I see it
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>> "Jack Erbes" wrote in message
>>
>>> Phil Stanton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can anybody point me in the direction of a 12" sunlight viewable,
>>>> waterproof screen to work from the external VGA port on my Laptop. I
>>>> want to be able to see my navigation software at the helm as well as at
>>>> the chart table.
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>> A quick google for "marine display" will bring you a lot of hits, here
>>> are a few:
>>>
>>> http://www.argonautcomputer.com/displays_tflex.htm
>>> http://www.nauticomp.com/
>>> http://www.navstore.com/marina_displays.asp
>>>
>>> To run it off of a PC you'll want to get a touchscreen model. Anyone
>>> that says "I don't need that, I'm only going to look at it..." has not
>>> been there. And anyone that says "I'll use a cordless (name any human
>>> interface device)..." has not tried it yet.
>>>
>>> I've been around some good sunlight displays and have not seen a good
>>> one yet that was not about the same price as buying a good chart
>>> plotter. For what you spend for a good 12-15" display you can buy a
>>> Raymarine C120 and some chart chips.
>>>
>>> Jack
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
>>> (also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
>>
>>
>
>
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Phil Stanton wrote:
> Thanks to all who have contributed. I went to the boat show, and there
> appears to be one coming out in February at a reasonably sensible price.
> I'll believe it when I see it
>
> Phil
>
>
> "Jack Erbes" wrote in message
>
>
>>Phil Stanton wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Can anybody point me in the direction of a 12" sunlight viewable,
>>>waterproof screen to work from the external VGA port on my Laptop. I want
>>>to be able to see my navigation software at the helm as well as at the
>>>chart table.
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>
>>A quick google for "marine display" will bring you a lot of hits, here are
>>a few:
>>
>>http://www.argonautcomputer.com/displays_tflex.htm
>>http://www.nauticomp.com/
>>http://www.navstore.com/marina_displays.asp
>>
>>To run it off of a PC you'll want to get a touchscreen model. Anyone that
>>says "I don't need that, I'm only going to look at it..." has not been
>>there. And anyone that says "I'll use a cordless (name any human
>>interface device)..." has not tried it yet.
>>
>>I've been around some good sunlight displays and have not seen a good one
>>yet that was not about the same price as buying a good chart plotter. For
>>what you spend for a good 12-15" display you can buy a Raymarine C120 and
>>some chart chips.
>>
>>Jack
>>
>>--
>>Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
>>(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
>
>
>
> From - Mon

Have a look here to this french supl.
http://www.oceandatasystem.com/panas_ecran.html

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Phil: can you give us the name of the company that is to put out the
purported "affordable" sunlight viewable screen?

Gary


>Phil Stanton wrote:
>> Thanks to all who have contributed. I went to the boat show, and there
>> appears to be one coming out in February at a reasonably sensible price.
>> I'll believe it when I see it
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>> "Jack Erbes" wrote in message
>>
>>
>>>Phil Stanton wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Can anybody point me in the direction of a 12" sunlight viewable,
>>>>waterproof screen to work from the external VGA port on my Laptop. I want
>>>>to be able to see my navigation software at the helm as well as at the
>>>>chart table.
>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>>A quick google for "marine display" will bring you a lot of hits, here are
>>>a few:
>>>
>>>http://www.argonautcomputer.com/displays_tflex.htm
>>>http://www.nauticomp.com/
>>>http://www.navstore.com/marina_displays.asp
>>>
>>>To run it off of a PC you'll want to get a touchscreen model. Anyone that
>>>says "I don't need that, I'm only going to look at it..." has not been
>>>there. And anyone that says "I'll use a cordless (name any human
>>>interface device)..." has not tried it yet.
>>>
>>>I've been around some good sunlight displays and have not seen a good one
>>>yet that was not about the same price as buying a good chart plotter. For
>>>what you spend for a good 12-15" display you can buy a Raymarine C120 and
>>>some chart chips.
>>>
>>>Jack
>>>
>>>--
>>>Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
>>>(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
>>
>>
>>
>> From - Mon

>Have a look here to this french supl.
>http://www.oceandatasystem.com/panas_ecran.html


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Sorry for delay in replying. Using my Laptop for navigation yet again. Worn
out from going up and down companionway to view screen.
Allegedly Vasari Technology Ltd (http://www.vasari.net/) are going to
produce it, but in spite of a number of veryy affable conversations, they
are not there yet

Phil
wrote in message

>
>
> Phil: can you give us the name of the company that is to put out the
> purported "affordable" sunlight viewable screen?
>
> Gary
>
>
>>Phil Stanton wrote:
>>> Thanks to all who have contributed. I went to the boat show, and there
>>> appears to be one coming out in February at a reasonably sensible price.
>>> I'll believe it when I see it
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jack Erbes" wrote in message
>>>
>>>
>>>>Phil Stanton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Can anybody point me in the direction of a 12" sunlight viewable,
>>>>>waterproof screen to work from the external VGA port on my Laptop. I
>>>>>want
>>>>>to be able to see my navigation software at the helm as well as at the
>>>>>chart table.
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>A quick google for "marine display" will bring you a lot of hits, here
>>>>are
>>>>a few:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.argonautcomputer.com/displays_tflex.htm
>>>>http://www.nauticomp.com/
>>>>http://www.navstore.com/marina_displays.asp
>>>>
>>>>To run it off of a PC you'll want to get a touchscreen model. Anyone
>>>>that
>>>>says "I don't need that, I'm only going to look at it..." has not been
>>>>there. And anyone that says "I'll use a cordless (name any human
>>>>interface device)..." has not tried it yet.
>>>>
>>>>I've been around some good sunlight displays and have not seen a good
>>>>one
>>>>yet that was not about the same price as buying a good chart plotter.
>>>>For
>>>>what you spend for a good 12-15" display you can buy a Raymarine C120
>>>>and
>>>>some chart chips.
>>>>
>>>>Jack
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
>>>>(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From - Mon
>
>>Have a look here to this french supl.
>>http://www.oceandatasystem.com/panas_ecran.html
>
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> gbooth.RemoveThis@rockisland.com
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>
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Phil Stanton wrote:
> Sorry for delay in replying. Using my Laptop for navigation yet
> again. Worn out from going up and down companionway to view screen.
> Allegedly Vasari Technology Ltd (http://www.vasari.net/) are going to
> produce it, but in spite of a number of veryy affable conversations,
> they are not there yet
>
> Phil
> wrote in message
>
>>
Even if daylight-viewable waterproof screens were readily available, and
reasonably-priced, you would still have to use the laptop in a safe place
down below, so what is the point? I prefer to use my Garmin Map60C with the
same charts as my laptop so that they are identical and I can pocket the
Garmin when going up on deck. Admittedly the screen size makes it difficult
for actual navigation, but at least I have a display of sorts, and the
Bluecharts are as good as any other charts.
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The point is that here in the UK we have very congested shipping lanes. I
have just been over to France for a couple of weeks, and crossing the
English Channel there were well over 40 ships (Big B*ggers) in the shipping
lanes. I get the information of what they are up to (course, speed,
destination, name etc) from my AIS "radar" and then can take the neccessary
avoiding action. Visibility was a couple of miles, and with closing speeds
of 25 knts, I had to make course alterations to avoid 3 of them and also had
to talk to one of them to check his intentions. That is why I can sit down
below at the chart table putting routes in to the computer and checking
pilot books and tides etc, and have all that information clearly in front of
me when at the helm. I don't particularly want to mess around with routes in
an open cockpit when it is p*ssing down with rain and cold. OK we do
sometimes get a couple of sunny days in England. You have said the screen
size of your Garmin is too small, so that is why I would like a 12" screen



"Dennis Pogson" wrote in message

> Phil Stanton wrote:
>> Sorry for delay in replying. Using my Laptop for navigation yet
>> again. Worn out from going up and down companionway to view screen.
>> Allegedly Vasari Technology Ltd (http://www.vasari.net/) are going to
>> produce it, but in spite of a number of veryy affable conversations,
>> they are not there yet
>>
>> Phil
>> wrote in message
>>
>>>
> Even if daylight-viewable waterproof screens were readily available, and
> reasonably-priced, you would still have to use the laptop in a safe place
> down below, so what is the point? I prefer to use my Garmin Map60C with
> the
> same charts as my laptop so that they are identical and I can pocket the
> Garmin when going up on deck. Admittedly the screen size makes it
> difficult
> for actual navigation, but at least I have a display of sorts, and the
> Bluecharts are as good as any other charts.
>
>
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