Old Tyme Boat Brochure Photos, Amusing attire

"jps" <trash.TakeThisOut@thedump.com> wrote in message
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> In article <1128916748.669097.211680.TakeThisOut@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> chuckgould.chuck.TakeThisOut@gmail.com says...
>> This is fun;
>>
>> I'm working on a filler piece this evening that recounts the history of
>> the local Bayliner dealer. (The firm just celebrated its 50th
>> anniversary, although it did not sell Bayliner for some years after it
>> was founded).
>>
>> I've got three brochure photos for some really old Bayliner models.
>> A Mutiny, a Discovery, and a Cornet. These boats are 16, 17 and 19 feet
>> in length.
>>
>> Back in the day, models posing in some boat brochure photos were
>> dressed in business suits! The skipper is dressed in a shirt, jacket,
>> tie, the whole works. In one photo of the suit and tie boater, his
>> female passenger is dressed in a business dress and sports a "bee hive"
>> hairdo. In another photo, two women are out in a boat, and one of them
>> is wearing a very modest two-piece bathing suit. It was probably
>> considered "risque" in its era.
>
> Beehives were cool, so were mutton chops.
>
> If you're marketing a go-fast boat these days, two endowed models in
> bathing suits is mandatory fare.
>
> jps

Today's models will have the mandatory enhanced personal flotation devices
....
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<chuckgould.chuck.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> This is fun;
>
> I'm working on a filler piece this evening that recounts the history of
> the local Bayliner dealer. (The firm just celebrated its 50th
> anniversary, although it did not sell Bayliner for some years after it
> was founded).
>
> I've got three brochure photos for some really old Bayliner models.
> A Mutiny, a Discovery, and a Cornet. These boats are 16, 17 and 19 feet
> in length.
>
> Back in the day, models posing in some boat brochure photos were
> dressed in business suits! The skipper is dressed in a shirt, jacket,
> tie, the whole works. In one photo of the suit and tie boater, his
> female passenger is dressed in a business dress and sports a "bee hive"
> hairdo. In another photo, two women are out in a boat, and one of them
> is wearing a very modest two-piece bathing suit. It was probably
> considered "risque" in its era.
>

The Chapman's book I had in the 1960s contained an entire section on proper
wardrobe for the yacht club. It specified uniforms for certain people. My
dad had a business acquaintance who docked his 75' toy in Sands Point, Long
Island. The guy was referred to as "admiral" by his chums at the club, and
certainly by the dock boys, of course. I asked my dad once if the guy had
been in the Navy. He said no, and the "admiral" thing was just an
affectation among the clubby types.

Un-friggin-believable.
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Harry Krause wrote:

> The yacht clubby types tend to take their club rank seriously. It's
> really kind of laughable.

> My father's boatyard was almost next door to a snooty yacht club in the
> same harbor. He joined because I wanted to race sailboats in the junior
> program when I was a kid, but he refused to get involved in the
> hierarchy. For fun, we went to social events at a blue collar boat club,
> where no one was an "ossifer with a title."

Actually, the NG does have a snooty, holier than thou, commodore yachty
type participant. You might want to ask Commodore Chucky about it.

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Skipper
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Skipper wrote:
>
> Actually, the NG does have a snooty, holier than thou, commodore yachty
> type participant. You might want to ask Commodore Chucky about it.
>
> --
> Skipper

Would the 'real' Snipper please stand up.
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Harry,
Why are you getting in the middle of Chuck's and my discussion? Are you
playing Chuck? Are you stirring the pot?
What are you doing in this thread?


"Harry Krause" <harry.krause DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> As you can see, Chuckster, all Starbucks-Smithers really wants to do
> here is stir the pot and keep it roiling, if he can. Else, why would he
> try to get in the middle of so many "discussions," and do whatever is
> within his limited means to encourage argument on as many sides as
> possible.
>
> He's playing you.
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Bert Robbins wrote:

>> I have done nothing to deserve the non-stop flaming this individual
>> began with his "open letter" thread and has continued ever since.

> Now you are going to try and play the poor innocent me card. It won't
> work.

Chucky just doesn't know where the truth begins. A Common problem with
used car salesmen types.

>> If any of his outrageous charges had a shred of truth, that would be
>> one thing.

Are you now ready to discuss your statements to me regarding AIMS? NG
readers can decide for themselves who is being honest about those
discussions.

>> You ain't seen "ballistic", Starbucks. I'm currently merely annoyed
>> with this little butt barnacle- but if he insists on stalking me he's
>> going to get an offal surprise sooner rather than later.

Let's discuss.

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>
those cousins are now dead, as are their parents. The one
> cousin who lives is brain fried.
> --
> Skipper

Indeed.
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Skipper wrote:
> chuckgould.chuck.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Starbuck's Words of Wisdom wrote:
> >> Chuck,
>
> >> Skipper has made a few comments about your integrity and you go
> >> ballistic.
>
> > I have done nothing to deserve the non-stop flaming this individual
> > began with his "open letter" thread and has continued ever since.
>
> After Skipper left the NG you flamed him at every mention. You KNEW he
> had over 50 years of boating experience and yet you called him a
> "non-boater". That alone would be justification for most, but you went
> further, placing him as the butt of your jokes with acquaintances over
> beers. Skipper has plenty of cause for setting the record straight about
> your integrity and honesty.
>
> > If any of his outrageous charges had a shred of truth, that would be
> > one thing.
>
> Are you now stating the conversations you had with Skipper about AIMS
> did not happen?
>
> > Only a sick bastard takes up stalking a person from thread to thread to
> > lob disruptive insults. This character is surely not the first to pull
> > this nonsense in the NG, and probably won't be the last.
>
> Why are you avoiding an open discussion about AIMS? Could it be because
> that would show you in an unflattering light?

I can't imagine why.

Here's what somebody who was actually present during the conversations
Skipper and I had in Seattle reported, so see what you think.


JD's Survey Not so Powerful
Chuck is an honest broker. Had I used him as my representative for a
boat
I'd seen before contacting him, he would have saved us ...
rec.boats - Oct 26 2001, 9:35 am by Skipper - 65 messages - 15 authors


Here in the NG, we should discuss things posted to the NG. Not things
that one side of a private conversation changes the story after five
years or so and now claims were said.

For example: (the following incident never occured)...suppose I
suddenly appeared in the group to report, "When Skipper was last in
Seattle, he kept asking me if I knew anything about the Broadway
District. He said he had heard that it was a great place to pick up
underage boys willing to go down on fat old men for a little quick
spending cash. He reached in his pocket and pulled out a paper that
said, "For a good time, call so and so....." (etc, etc, you get the
point).....

Psuedo, what the same crazy heck would be the point of arguing about
that conversation in the NG? First, it was a private conversation
between you and me. Second, with a total lack of evidence available on
either side the "discussion" you call for would devolve into you
said/did not you said/did not you said/did not etc.

If you think its suddenly your role in life to challenge my ethics,
then do so with some incident or statement that is known to others in
the NG- not a "Gould said this, and in spite of my previous statements
to the contrary you'll now have to take my word for it..." bag of BS.

The only real record I have of anything Skipper or I said during or
about our meetings is the statement posted some time after our 2nd
meeting in Seattle.
Let's see, how does that go again....oh, yeah.......



JD's Survey Not so Powerful
Chuck is an honest broker. Had I used him as my representative for a
boat
I'd seen before contacting him, he would have saved us ...
rec.boats - Oct 26 2001, 9:35 am by Skipper - 65 messages - 15 authors


GFYS. Psuedo. (Stands for: Go fantasize you're Skipper, of course).
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chuckgould.chuck.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:

>>> I have done nothing to deserve the non-stop flaming this individual
>>> began with his "open letter" thread and has continued ever since.

>> After Skipper left the NG you flamed him at every mention. You KNEW he
>> had over 50 years of boating experience and yet you called him a
>> "non-boater". That alone would be justification for most, but you went
>> further, placing him as the butt of your jokes with acquaintances over
>> beers. Skipper has plenty of cause for setting the record straight about
>> your integrity and honesty.

>> Are you now stating the conversations you had with Skipper about AIMS
>> did not happen?

> Only a sick bastard takes up stalking a person from thread to thread to
> lob disruptive insults. This character is surely not the first to pull
> this nonsense in the NG, and probably won't be the last.

>> Why are you avoiding an open discussion about AIMS? Could it be because
>> that would show you in an unflattering light?

> I can't imagine why.

I can, let's discuss and let the NG decide.

> Here in the NG, we should discuss things posted to the NG. Not things
> that one side of a private conversation changes the story after five
> years or so and now claims were said.

We have some pretty smart participants in this NG. I think their powers
of perception can detect truth. Subjects need not be limited to only
what has been previously posted to this NG.

That said, I believe it has become all too obvious that you have no
intention of discussing AIMS, your role with that "marine research
operation", or your previous statements about that company. I believe
most NG readers also know the reason why.

> For example: (the following incident never occured)...suppose I
> suddenly appeared in the group to report, "When Skipper was last in
> Seattle, he kept asking me if I knew anything about the Broadway
> District. He said he had heard that it was a great place to pick up
> underage boys willing to go down on fat old men for a little quick
> spending cash. He reached in his pocket and pulled out a paper that
> said, "For a good time, call so and so....." (etc, etc, you get the
> point).....

As I've stated previously, you are truly a class act, Chucky.

> Psuedo, what the same crazy heck would be the point of arguing about
> that conversation in the NG? First, it was a private conversation
> between you and me. Second, with a total lack of evidence available on
> either side the "discussion" you call for would devolve into you
> said/did not you said/did not you said/did not etc.

You sound like the typical used car salesman, Chucky. The point of
discussing AIMS and our previous conversations about it would be to
illuminate you and your conduct. Readers can and will come to their own
conclusions.

> If you think its suddenly your role in life to challenge my ethics,
> then do so with some incident or statement that is known to others in
> the NG- not a "Gould said this, and in spite of my previous statements
> to the contrary you'll now have to take my word for it..." bag of BS.

I'm challenging your conduct precisely BECAUSE of your conduct. I did
not insult and belittle you during my absence, you however did.

> The only real record I have of anything Skipper or I said during or
> about our meetings is the statement posted some time after our 2nd
> meeting in Seattle.
> Let's see, how does that go again....oh, yeah.......

> JD's Survey Not so Powerful - Chuck is an honest broker. Had I used him
> as my representative for a boat I'd seen before contacting him, he would
> have saved us ... rec.boats - Oct 26 2001, 9:35 am by Skipper - 65
> messages - 15 authors

That repeated snippet seems a bit like the refuge of a scoundrel to me.
I HAVE explained those comments.

> GFYS. Psuedo. (Stands for: Go fantasize you're Skipper, of course).

You really are a class act, Chucky.

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Skipper
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