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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:26 pm
Post subject: Starter Search
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My starter died - so I went to AutoZone to get a new one. I had them
cross-reference a 68 Mustang, since it had the comparable 427 engine. I
installed it yesterday, and the thing turned beautifully.
This morning I tried to fire it up, and gas came spewing out of the carb.
Hmmm... that was strange. I've been meaning to rebuild the carb, so what
the heck. Off to AutoZone for a carb kit. Finished rebuilding the carb
about 30 minutes ago, and tried starting it again. Nope.
Stupid! Stupid! Stupid! The marine 427 is Right-Hand rotation. The starter
is spinning the wrong freakin way! Hope I didn't do any damage, I can't
imagine opposite rotation would.
Now the question... anybody know a good source for finding a starter part #?
Here's what I know about the engine - it's a Ford block, 427, and the
service manual refers to it as "Interceptor / Eaton Marine Division". The
wrong rotation starter cost only $35. Something tells me a "marine" (aka
opposite rotation) is going to be a little more...
Lesson learned -
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:26 pm
Post subject: Re: Starter Search [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:46:04 GMT, "Douglas St. Clair"
<dstclair DeleteThis @rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>My starter died - so I went to AutoZone to get a new one. I had them
>cross-reference a 68 Mustang, since it had the comparable 427 engine. I
>installed it yesterday, and the thing turned beautifully.
>
>This morning I tried to fire it up, and gas came spewing out of the carb.
>Hmmm... that was strange. I've been meaning to rebuild the carb, so what
>the heck. Off to AutoZone for a carb kit. Finished rebuilding the carb
>about 30 minutes ago, and tried starting it again. Nope.
>
>Stupid! Stupid! Stupid! The marine 427 is Right-Hand rotation. The starter
>is spinning the wrong freakin way! Hope I didn't do any damage, I can't
>imagine opposite rotation would.
>
>Now the question... anybody know a good source for finding a starter part #?
>Here's what I know about the engine - it's a Ford block, 427, and the
>service manual refers to it as "Interceptor / Eaton Marine Division". The
>wrong rotation starter cost only $35. Something tells me a "marine" (aka
>opposite rotation) is going to be a little more...
>
>Lesson learned -
>Doug
>
There is more to a marine starter than just the cost. It is designed to
prevent the arcing from the commutator or starter solenoid from lighting up
any fumes that might have accumulated in the engine compartment. Take a
closer look at the 2 starters and you may see what I am referring to.
Oftentimes a screen is used, which would extinguish a flame, to cover any
open areas. (Screens were used to cover the flame in the old methane
detectors that were used in coal mines, the flame burned brighter when
methane was present)
Just for safety sake, I would stick with a real marine duty starter.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:26 pm
Post subject: Re: Starter Search [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Douglas St. Clair wrote:
> My starter died - so I went to AutoZone to get a new one. I had them
> cross-reference a 68 Mustang, since it had the comparable 427 engine. I
> installed it yesterday, and the thing turned beautifully.
>
> This morning I tried to fire it up, and gas came spewing out of the carb.
> Hmmm... that was strange. I've been meaning to rebuild the carb, so what
> the heck. Off to AutoZone for a carb kit. Finished rebuilding the carb
> about 30 minutes ago, and tried starting it again. Nope.
>
> Stupid! Stupid! Stupid! The marine 427 is Right-Hand rotation. The starter
> is spinning the wrong freakin way! Hope I didn't do any damage, I can't
> imagine opposite rotation would.
>
> Now the question... anybody know a good source for finding a starter part #?
> Here's what I know about the engine - it's a Ford block, 427, and the
> service manual refers to it as "Interceptor / Eaton Marine Division". The
> wrong rotation starter cost only $35. Something tells me a "marine" (aka
> opposite rotation) is going to be a little more...
>
> Lesson learned -
> Doug
>
>
QUICKLY... go get your old starter back! It will be to your advantage
to have the old one rebuilt - it is a much better core to start with,
and will cost less too. In the mean time - I will look up a part number
for you on new & re-man starters... be sure you are sitting down when
you check back!
Rob<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Starter Search |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 10:22 pm
Post subject: Re: Starter Search [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I'm with you... I actually purchased the new starter yesterday and didn't
return the core until today. I tried calling to have them hold on to it,
but they were already closed. First thing tomorrow morning...
Thanks!
"trainfan1" <lmsearing.TakeThisOut@usdatanet.net> wrote in message
news:JPGdnXM8sZ_0xcrcRVn-qw@usadatanet.net...
> Douglas St. Clair wrote:
>
> > My starter died - so I went to AutoZone to get a new one. I had them
> > cross-reference a 68 Mustang, since it had the comparable 427 engine. I
> > installed it yesterday, and the thing turned beautifully.
> >
> > This morning I tried to fire it up, and gas came spewing out of the
carb.
> > Hmmm... that was strange. I've been meaning to rebuild the carb, so
what
> > the heck. Off to AutoZone for a carb kit. Finished rebuilding the carb
> > about 30 minutes ago, and tried starting it again. Nope.
> >
> > Stupid! Stupid! Stupid! The marine 427 is Right-Hand rotation. The
starter
> > is spinning the wrong freakin way! Hope I didn't do any damage, I can't
> > imagine opposite rotation would.
> >
> > Now the question... anybody know a good source for finding a starter
part #?
> > Here's what I know about the engine - it's a Ford block, 427, and the
> > service manual refers to it as "Interceptor / Eaton Marine Division".
The
> > wrong rotation starter cost only $35. Something tells me a "marine"
(aka
> > opposite rotation) is going to be a little more...
> >
> > Lesson learned -
> > Doug
> >
> >
>
> QUICKLY... go get your old starter back! It will be to your advantage
> to have the old one rebuilt - it is a much better core to start with,
> and will cost less too. In the mean time - I will look up a part number
> for you on new & re-man starters... be sure you are sitting down when
> you check back!
>
> Rob<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Starter Search |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 10:22 pm
Post subject: Re: Starter Search [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Douglas St. Clair wrote:
> I'm with you... I actually purchased the new starter yesterday and didn't
> return the core until today. I tried calling to have them hold on to it,
> but they were already closed. First thing tomorrow morning...
>
> Thanks!
>
This is as close as I could come...
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.marysvillemarine.com/catalog/cat_p424-431.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.marysvillemarine.com/catalog/cat_p424-431.pdf</a>
You may have to compare pics/measurements...
or call these guys...
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.dbelectrical.com/marine/marine.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.dbelectrical.com/marine/marine.shtml</a>
Rob<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Starter Search |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:03 am
Post subject: Re: Starter Search [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Rob -
Thanks for the advice. I picked up my old starter from AutoZone at noon,
and dropped it off at a rebuilder. I received a call at 5:00 that it was
done. Great job on the thing - almost looks too pretty to hide under the
block.
The beast started up with the flick of the ignition. Well worth the money -
$70.
I took the boat out tonight to try out the freshly rebuilt carb. Bad
news... see my new post.
Doug
"trainfan1" <lmsearing.RemoveThis@usdatanet.net> wrote in message
news:DqSdncjT3L5l-crcRVn-qA@usadatanet.net...
> Douglas St. Clair wrote:
>
> > I'm with you... I actually purchased the new starter yesterday and
didn't
> > return the core until today. I tried calling to have them hold on to
it,
> > but they were already closed. First thing tomorrow morning...
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>
>
> This is as close as I could come...
>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.marysvillemarine.com/catalog/cat_p424-431.pdf</font" target="_blank">http://www.marysvillemarine.com/catalog/cat_p424-431.pdf</font</a>>
>
> You may have to compare pics/measurements...
>
> or call these guys...
>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.dbelectrical.com/marine/marine.shtml</font" target="_blank">http://www.dbelectrical.com/marine/marine.shtml</font</a>>
>
> Rob<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Starter Search |
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