New Simrad AI50 Class B AIS Transponder

Pascal <PascalNavstar.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in news:1178807248.209992.197850
@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

> what is the price

Jersey Electrics says:

"Projected price around £800"

You'd think it had a kilowatt transmitter, not just TWO WATTS....

It will display you from a 50' sailboat mast antenna about 4-5 miles at
that power level....unless you're around a corner, which is what we're
buying them for....then 2 watts is NOT GOING TO GET OVER THAT CLIFF!

So sad....VHF will bounce and display you but not at so low a power level
in a ditch waterway. Too bad.

Larry
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Pascal <PascalNavstar DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in news:1178807248.209992.197850
@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

> I want to know who is selling this now in Europe, (please give the url
> or addres) what is the price and where I can get a copy of the usr
> manual for details.
>
> Thanks
>
> Pascal
>
>

http://www.simradyachting.com/Products/Navigation/AIS/AI50.aspx

Click on "Downloads" for brochures, user manual, all there.

From the webpage:
"Note for the US:
The AI50 has not been authorized as required by the rules of the Federal
Communications Commission. This device is not, and may not be, offered
for sale or lease, or sold or leased, until authorization is obtained."

Of course, as usual, Americans are excluded until the barely perceptible
bureaucratic movements make any new European technology obsolete....
(sigh)

There's lots of dealers listed if you put:

Simrad AI50

into the Google search engine. nauticexpo.com had no price but tried to
scam my browser so I'd stay away from them (UK). I don't think these
units are available, yet, from the look of the webpages at marine
electronics places. The news on them is dated Sun Mar 18...still being
prepared for release.

Nice looking units, Pascal. Let us all know what you find out and how
pricey they are being so new. Keep us posted!



Larry
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Pascal <PascalNavstar DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in news:1178825813.503235.46380
@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

> What I want to know is where we can buy it in Europe now, since I can
> ask a friend to bring one to me without aggregate more import taxes.
> Preferable in UK since it is more easy to have people coming to Brazil
> from there. I think that this unit would take so much time to be
> available at Miltech Marine in USA.
>

FCC says you can't buy it in the USA. From the webpages I read over from
European dealers, I don't think you can buy it there, yet, either. It
looks like they're taking initial orders. NONE of them had more than a
guess as to the pricing, reinforcing my belief the thing is still vaporware
(unavailable for sale).

Larry
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On 11 maio, 00:57, Larry <n....RemoveThis@home.com> wrote:
> Pascal <PascalNavs....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in news:1178825813.503235.46380
> @q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
>
> > What I want to know is where we can buy it in Europe now, since I can
> > ask a friend to bring one to me without aggregate more import taxes.
> > Preferable in UK since it is more easy to have people coming to Brazil
> > from there. I think that this unit would take so much time to be
> > available at Miltech Marine in USA.
>
> FCC says you can't buy it in the USA. From the webpages I read over from
> European dealers, I don't think you can buy it there, yet, either. It
> looks like they're taking initial orders. NONE of them had more than a
> guess as to the pricing, reinforcing my belief the thing is still vaporware
> (unavailable for sale).
>
> Larry
> --

Yes Larry, You are wright, and I have seen some comments about AIS
Class B that worry me a lot, that is: it send position only after 30
sec which may not good for ships with 20 knots or more and with only 2
Watts the range could be limited to 4 NM.

I think I will wait much more time to see how this thing really works
or not.

Pascal
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Pascal <PascalNavstar.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in news:1179180566.978848.120740
@e51g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

> I think I will wait much more time to see how this thing really works
> or not.
>
>

I'd also say wait. The equipment/manufacturer shakeout has not occurred on
this technology, yet. We're a couple of years away before certain units
become the ones most sought after, while the others go bankrupt.

It's just like Windows Vista....about 3 years from being out of beta test
by the paying users before it's near ready for use....(c;

Larry
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A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
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Already have an AIS receiver do you, why not stop there, you get most
of the benefit. The class of boats that are required to carry a
transciever are unlikely to take action to avoid your boat, unless you
are stationary. Even then, they might just only honk.

Spend the euros on some good food & drink for your crew
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b393capt <danielwcorcoran.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1179249398.460015.232070@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

> Already have an AIS receiver do you, why not stop there, you get most
> of the benefit. The class of boats that are required to carry a
> transciever are unlikely to take action to avoid your boat, unless you
> are stationary. Even then, they might just only honk.
>
> Spend the euros on some good food & drink for your crew
>
>
>

Do you sail much at night in a busy seaway or with crossing ship traffic
going up a coast?

The idea is to be SEEN, and to inform the other AIS stations of your
boat's name/size/call/MMSI/course/speed....before you're run down by a
much faster ship who didn't see your little 50' mast on his radar
shooting over it from way up there....

The crew has plenty of slop and way too much rum, already....


Larry
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Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.
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Pascal wrote:
> I want to know who is selling this now in Europe, (please give the url
> or addres) what is the price and where I can get a copy of the usr
> manual for details.
>
> Thanks
>
> Pascal
>
www.jgtech.com are selling the AIS transponder they are due very soon. JG
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Class B is limited to 2 watts output, but that is enough for all normal use
and provides quite reasonable range, around 10 nm between 2 boats with
mast mounted antennas and 5 for lower mounted antennas. It bounces around
just fine in the Swedish archipelago.

I sailed 1200 nm this summer with ClassB on board and met a number of
other boats with ClassB. There are already over 100 ClassB transponder in
operation here in Scandinavia.

Haven't seen anyone yet with the Simrad unit though.

/Marcus
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Class B is limited to 2 watts output, but that is enough for all normal use
and provides quite reasonable range, around 10 nm between 2 boats with
mast mounted antennas and 5 for lower mounted antennas. It bounces around
just fine in the Swedish archipelago.

I sailed 1200 nm this summer with ClassB on board and met a number of
other boats with ClassB. There are already over 100 ClassB transponder in
operation here in Scandinavia.

Haven't seen anyone yet with the Simrad unit though.

/Marcus
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