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CanoeArt

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Since: Jun 22, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2003 11:29 pm
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Hi, I need a simple system to hang an wood canoe in garage ceiling. I want to
be able to hang it myself. I thought of rachet type rig, but I would need to
get on ladder for releasing one end at a time. Type of rachet with hook, you
would use to hole down ends of canoe on vehicle.

Any ideas?

Thankd,


CanoeArt

"Keep a Paddle in the Water at All Times"

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David J. Van den B

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 12:22 am
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have a look at this sketch:

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.brickgarage.com/pictures/blockandtackle.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.brickgarage.com/pictures/blockandtackle.jpg</a>

You can see by the set up that for every 10" of rope you pull, the boat will
raise 5" which reduces the amount of energy required to lift the boat. If
you add another loop and set of pulleys (or use double wheel pulleys) you
will further reduce the amount of energy required but also reduce the amount
that the boat is raised as you pull. It will be easier but take longer.

Cheers

DV

 > From: canoeart.TakeThisOut@aol.com (CanoeArt)
<font color=purple> > Organization: AOL <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.aol.com</font" target="_blank">http://www.aol.com</font</a>>
 > Newsgroups: rec.boats.paddle
 > Date: 22 Jun 2003 20:29:49 GMT
 > Subject: Simple Hanging Canoe Rigging
 >
 > Hi, I need a simple system to hang an wood canoe in garage ceiling. I want to
 > be able to hang it myself. I thought of rachet type rig, but I would need to
 > get on ladder for releasing one end at a time. Type of rachet with hook, you
 > would use to hole down ends of canoe on vehicle.
 >
 > Any ideas?
 >
 > Thankd,
 >
 >
 > CanoeArt
 >
 > "Keep a Paddle in the Water at All Times"
 >
 >
 >
 >
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EnzoM3

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 12:48 am
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I make one myself, no rachet, just a couple hooks and pulleys.

Pictures of my system:

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://public.fotki.com/jimwei/misc/canoe_hanger/" target="_blank">http://public.fotki.com/jimwei/misc/canoe_hanger/</a>

The first picture is the far right, then the two middle hooks, the corner
hook, and finally the cleat to tie off the ropes.

Jim

"CanoeArt" <canoeart DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in message
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 > Hi, I need a simple system to hang an wood canoe in garage ceiling. I want
to
 > be able to hang it myself. I thought of rachet type rig, but I would need
to
 > get on ladder for releasing one end at a time. Type of rachet with hook,
you
 > would use to hole down ends of canoe on vehicle.
 >
 > Any ideas?
 >
 > Thankd,
 >
 >
 > CanoeArt
 >
 > "Keep a Paddle in the Water at All Times"
 >
 >
 >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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EnzoM3

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 5:55 pm
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Looks remarkablly like my setup. Wish I had seen this picture at the time,
took me a couple tries to get it right.

Jim

"David J. Van den Branden" <dave DeleteThis @brickgarage.com> wrote in message
news:BB1BCEAB.28FE7%dave@brickgarage.com...
 > have a look at this sketch:
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.brickgarage.com/pictures/blockandtackle.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.brickgarage.com/pictures/blockandtackle.jpg</font</a>>
 >
 > You can see by the set up that for every 10" of rope you pull, the boat
will
 > raise 5" which reduces the amount of energy required to lift the boat. If
 > you add another loop and set of pulleys (or use double wheel pulleys) you
 > will further reduce the amount of energy required but also reduce the
amount
 > that the boat is raised as you pull. It will be easier but take longer.
 >
 > Cheers
 >
 > DV
 >
  > > From: canoeart DeleteThis @aol.com (CanoeArt)
<font color=green>  > > Organization: AOL <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.aol.com</font" target="_blank">http://www.aol.com</font</a>>
  > > Newsgroups: rec.boats.paddle
  > > Date: 22 Jun 2003 20:29:49 GMT
  > > Subject: Simple Hanging Canoe Rigging
  > >
  > > Hi, I need a simple system to hang an wood canoe in garage ceiling. I
want to
  > > be able to hang it myself. I thought of rachet type rig, but I would
need to
  > > get on ladder for releasing one end at a time. Type of rachet with hook,
you
  > > would use to hole down ends of canoe on vehicle.
  > >
  > > Any ideas?
  > >
  > > Thankd,
  > >
  > >
  > > CanoeArt
  > >
  > > "Keep a Paddle in the Water at All Times"
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
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David J. Van den B

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 5:55 pm
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"EnzoM3" <dontevenbother.RemoveThis@blablabla.com> wrote in message
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 > Looks remarkablly like my setup. Wish I had seen this picture at the
time,

Sorry, Man.


 > took me a couple tries to get it right.
 >
 > Jim
 >
 > "David J. Van den Branden" <dave.RemoveThis@brickgarage.com> wrote in message
 > news:BB1BCEAB.28FE7%dave@brickgarage.com...
  > > have a look at this sketch:
  > >
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.brickgarage.com/pictures/blockandtackle.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.brickgarage.com/pictures/blockandtackle.jpg</font</a>>
  > >
  > > You can see by the set up that for every 10" of rope you pull, the boat
 > will
  > > raise 5" which reduces the amount of energy<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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CowPunk

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:15 pm
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On 22 Jun 2003 20:29:49 GMT, canoeart.RemoveThis@aol.com (CanoeArt) did take
quill in hand and scribe thusly :

 >Hi, I need a simple system to hang an wood canoe in garage ceiling. I want to
 >be able to hang it myself. I thought of rachet type rig, but I would need to
 >get on ladder for releasing one end at a time. Type of rachet with hook, you
 >would use to hole down ends of canoe on vehicle.
 >
 >Any ideas?
 >
 >Thankd,
 >
 >
 > CanoeArt
 >
 > "Keep a Paddle in the Water at All Times"
 >
 >
 >
FInd one on the internet that's patented, then look it up at the
Patent office website...That's what I did and got the drawings and
everything at the time. Essentially two double pulleys with the lower
pulley having a locking ring attached I run nylon straps through to
hold the boat and a cleat on the wall to tie off the ropes. Easy to
raise and lower.

Cow<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Greggsilk2

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 7:38 am
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I got heavy metal steel shelves (Gorilla brand) and stood them up on opposite
walls. I reinforced the legs by running 2x4s up the corners, then I ran 2x6s
across the garage at the height of the top shelf. Used long drywall screws to
screw the upright studs to the metal angle irons. I can throw 6 or 7 boats up
there.
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Ed

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 2:04 pm
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My canoe is stored upside down under the garage roof. The nose is first
lifted by hand onto a small shelf attached near the top of a wall, and
the boat is then hoisted to the horizontal on a single trapeze located
about two-thirds of the way to the stern. The gunwales sit on the
trapeze crossbar and the two ropes from the ends, which thus straddle
the canoe, go through pulleys across the roof and down the adjacent
wall, where they are cleated.

Hoisting was hard work, even with my reasonably light (about 28 kg)
Dagger Reflection 15. After reading David's message, I added another
pair of pulleys to convert the single lifts into 2:1 purchases, and now
it's really easy. Thanks David. Why didn't I think of that?

Another thing that really helps is a 2-wheeled trolley contraption
(essentially just 2 wheels on an axle, with a few other bits to keep it
located securely) that clamps temporarily across the gunwales at one end
(the stern, in this case).

The trolley is attached before the canoe is lowered from the roof, again
in 2 stages. The trapeze is lowered first, so that the stern is now on
wheels on the floor, and the nose is tilted up and still resting on the
shelf. The nose can then be lifted off the shelf and the canoe wheeled
around easily, holding it by the nose. The wheels are far enough apart
(about 2 feet) to be stable and prevent the upside-down canoe flipping
sideways at any stage, which of course it tries to do. There is a short
vertical peg attached to the front of the shelf which the bow must be
lifted over. This locates behind the bow plate and stops the nose
sliding off the shelf when it's tilted up.

You can then wheel the boat over to put it on the car, upside down.
Approach the car from behind, lift the nose and rest it on the rear roof
bar. It will sit there happily while you walk to the stern. Lift the
stern by the still-attached trolley, which becomes a handle, giving you
good control over the boat, again stopping it flipping sideways as you
slide it forwards until it's resting on both roof bars. Reverse the
process to take it off, at the river if the ground's flat enough, and
back at home at the end of another happy trip.

This works well with a square-backed car like mine (Subaru Forester),
but I suppose on a sedan, the boot (trunk) might get in the way.

Ed
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