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rob8

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 2:04 pm
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I have a 98 GTI with the 717cc motor. At 40mph is simply turned off
without warning. The DESS beeps twice when I put the key in. When I
press start the starter jumps but the motor doesn't turn. After one
try I get one beep. The battery seems to produce 12 volts, the plugs
are new, lots of gas/oil, and the fuses aren't burn't. It has run
excellent up to now.

Any ideas?

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Matt Stallings

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:50 pm
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make sure there's no water in the engine...take out the spark plugs and hit
the starter...i just learned about that a few days ago Wink

Matt
"rob" <robheagle.RemoveThis@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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 > I have a 98 GTI with the 717cc motor. At 40mph is simply turned off
 > without warning. The DESS beeps twice when I put the key in. When I
 > press start the starter jumps but the motor doesn't turn. After one
 > try I get one beep. The battery seems to produce 12 volts, the plugs
 > are new, lots of gas/oil, and the fuses aren't burn't. It has run
 > excellent up to now.
 >
 > Any ideas?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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Matt Stallings

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:51 pm
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also make sure nothing is stopping the impeller or driveshaft from spinning
like a rope caught up in it or something

"rob" <robheagle.TakeThisOut@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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 > I have a 98 GTI with the 717cc motor. At 40mph is simply turned off
 > without warning. The DESS beeps twice when I put the key in. When I
 > press start the starter jumps but the motor doesn't turn. After one
 > try I get one beep. The battery seems to produce 12 volts, the plugs
 > are new, lots of gas/oil, and the fuses aren't burn't. It has run
 > excellent up to now.
 >
 > Any ideas?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Markz12

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 2:21 am
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I had a 97 gti a few years ago. The DESS post went bad. Soemtimes it would
start/run soetimes it wouldn't.
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rob8

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:02 pm
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markz12 RemoveThis @aol.com (Markz12) wrote in message news:<20040803192132.23951.00003116 RemoveThis @mb-m28.aol.com>...
 > I had a 97 gti a few years ago. The DESS post went bad. Soemtimes it would
 > start/run soetimes it wouldn't.

How do I test for a bad DESS? I get the famous 2 beeps when I plug it in.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:05 pm
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"Matt Stallings" <Matt565.TakeThisOut@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message news:<f1SPc.234880$2o2.12957586@twister.southeast.rr.com>...
 > also make sure nothing is stopping the impeller or driveshaft from spinning
 > like a rope caught up in it or something
 >
 > "rob" <robheagle.TakeThisOut@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
 > news:bfff2837.0408031004.6f5c1089@posting.google.com...
  > > I have a 98 GTI with the 717cc motor. At 40mph is simply turned off
  > > without warning. The DESS beeps twice when I put the key in. When I
  > > press start the starter jumps but the motor doesn't turn. After one
  > > try I get one beep. The battery seems to produce 12 volts, the plugs
  > > are new, lots of gas/oil, and the fuses aren't burn't. It has run
  > > excellent up to now.
  > >
  > > Any ideas?

I checked all that out with no luck. The impeller looks free and so
does the driveshaft. I'm going to try replacing the battery just in
case but it does not make sense to me why the machine would just shut
down when it started fine. Any easy way to check the load on a
battery? It has 12 volts but not sure how to check the amps.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:20 pm
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"Matt Stallings" <Matt565.DeleteThis@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message news:<w0SPc.234874$2o2.12957417@twister.southeast.rr.com>...
 > make sure there's no water in the engine...take out the spark plugs and hit
 > the starter...i just learned about that a few days ago Wink
 >
 > Matt
 > "rob" <robheagle.DeleteThis@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
 > news:bfff2837.0408031004.6f5c1089@posting.google.com...
  > > I have a 98 GTI with the 717cc motor. At 40mph is simply turned off
  > > without warning. The DESS beeps twice when I put the key in. When I
  > > press start the starter jumps but the motor doesn't turn. After one
  > > try I get one beep. The battery seems to produce 12 volts, the plugs
  > > are new, lots of gas/oil, and the fuses aren't burn't. It has run
  > > excellent up to now.
  > >
  > > Any ideas?

I took out the plugs and hit the starter. It clicks once but doesn't
turn the motor, after that I get a beep but no motion on the motor.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:01 pm
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 > I checked all that out with no luck. The impeller looks free and so
 > does the driveshaft.

With the plugs out, can you rotate it by hand?
You want to eliminate mechanical problems
before looking at electrical.

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frosty<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:55 am
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Check all the earthing points on the engine - seado is famous (or infamous)
for poor earth connections from the block to the battery or the electrical
box, and the symptoms look like that. try a thick jumper from the block
(naturally make a good connection) direct to the battery negative terminal.
If it then starts then you need to undo each earth ( there are more than
one, just check the engine thoroughly) clean them and reconnect securely. I
don't own a seado, but have seen plenty of them with this problem. Also
check the battery terminals are free of corrosion and that it is charged.
"rob" <robheagle.DeleteThis@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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 > "Matt Stallings" <Matt565.DeleteThis@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<f1SPc.234880$2o2.12957586@twister.southeast.rr.com>...
  > > also make sure nothing is stopping the impeller or driveshaft from
spinning
  > > like a rope caught up in it or something
  > >
  > > "rob" <robheagle.DeleteThis@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
  > > news:bfff2837.0408031004.6f5c1089@posting.google.com...
   > > > I have a 98 GTI with the 717cc motor. At 40mph is simply turned off
   > > > without warning. The DESS beeps twice when I put the key in. When I
   > > > press start the starter jumps but the motor doesn't turn. After one
   > > > try I get one beep. The battery seems to produce 12 volts, the plugs
   > > > are new, lots of gas/oil, and the fuses aren't burn't. It has run
   > > > excellent up to now.
   > > >
   > > > Any ideas?
 >
 > I checked all that out with no luck. The impeller looks free and so
 > does the driveshaft. I'm going to try replacing the battery just in
 > case but it does not make sense to me why the machine would just shut
 > down when it started fine. Any easy way to check the load on a
 > battery? It has 12 volts but not sure how to check the amps.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:06 am
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"frosty" <frostyj DeleteThis @no.spam> wrote in message news:<LKidnZpxa_Qo94zcRVn-iA DeleteThis @adelphia.com>...
  > > I checked all that out with no luck. The impeller looks free and so
  > > does the driveshaft.
 >
 > With the plugs out, can you rotate it by hand?
 > You want to eliminate mechanical problems
 > before looking at electrical.

Where is the best place to grab on to rotate the motor? I removed the
cover on the flywheel but there's not much to grab on to.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 12:57 pm
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Pull the plugs out, and you should be able to EASILY rotate the engine by
turning the flywheel. If you can't, something is stuck!


"rob" <robheagle DeleteThis @cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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 > "frosty" <frostyj DeleteThis @no.spam> wrote in message
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   > > > I checked all that out with no luck. The impeller looks free and so
   > > > does the driveshaft.
  > >
  > > With the plugs out, can you rotate it by hand?
  > > You want to eliminate mechanical problems
  > > before looking at electrical.
 >
 > Where is the best place to grab on to rotate the motor? I removed the
 > cover on the flywheel but there's not much to grab on to.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:38 pm
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"Chief_Wiggum" <Spam RemoveThis @Horrmell.com> wrote in message news:<fGtQc.24008$Oi.10087@fed1read04>...
> Pull the plugs out, and you should be able to EASILY rotate the engine by
> turning the flywheel. If you can't, something is stuck!
> Pulled the plugs, took the cover off the flywheel and couldnt' budge a thing. Took it to the trusty dealer and the motor is ceased! Looks like the previous owner got rid of a serious problem by dumping it on me.
Anyone know any reasonable rebuilders in Ontario? I need a new crank,
pistons and bearings. So much for enjoying the lake this summer.
>
> "rob" <robheagle RemoveThis @cogeco.ca> wrote in message
> news:bfff2837.0408050406.595f228b@posting.google.com...
> > "frosty" <frostyj RemoveThis @no.spam> wrote in message
> news:<LKidnZpxa_Qo94zcRVn-iA RemoveThis @adelphia.com>...
> > > > I checked all that out with no luck. The impeller looks free and so
> > > > does the driveshaft.
> > >
> > > With the plugs out, can you rotate it by hand?
> > > You want to eliminate mechanical problems
> > > before looking at electrical.
> >
> > Where is the best place to grab on to rotate the motor? I removed the
> > cover on the flywheel but there's not much to grab on to.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 2:18 am
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Try Thrust in Oakville 905 825 2006

"rob" <robheagle.DeleteThis@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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> "Chief_Wiggum" <Spam.DeleteThis@Horrmell.com> wrote in message
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> > Pull the plugs out, and you should be able to EASILY rotate the engine
by
> > turning the flywheel. If you can't, something is stuck!
> > Pulled the plugs, took the cover off the flywheel and couldnt' budge a
thing. Took it to the trusty dealer and the motor is ceased! Looks like
the previous owner got rid of a serious problem by dumping it on me.
> Anyone know any reasonable rebuilders in Ontario? I need a new crank,
> pistons and bearings. So much for enjoying the lake this summer.
> >
> > "rob" <robheagle.DeleteThis@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
> > news:bfff2837.0408050406.595f228b@posting.google.com...
> > > "frosty" <frostyj.DeleteThis@no.spam> wrote in message
> > news:<LKidnZpxa_Qo94zcRVn-iA.DeleteThis@adelphia.com>...
> > > > > I checked all that out with no luck. The impeller looks free and
so
> > > > > does the driveshaft.
> > > >
> > > > With the plugs out, can you rotate it by hand?
> > > > You want to eliminate mechanical problems
> > > > before looking at electrical.
> > >
> > > Where is the best place to grab on to rotate the motor? I removed the
> > > cover on the flywheel but there's not much to grab on to.
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