Rhino type bed liners on boats???

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:08:41 -0400, "Doug Dotson" <dougdotson DeleteThis @NOSPAMcablespeed.NOSPAMcom> wrote:

 >From what I gather over the years, the inside if a steal hull boat
 >should be left accessable for maintenance.
 >
 >Doug
 >s/v Callista

I'm talking about the outside, not the inside. Several boaters
around here (fresh water) have done so.

 ><dh_ld DeleteThis @nomail.com> wrote in message
 >news:s44jg0l1qro1kvt99900vfibbfsmith54j@4ax.com...
  >> Is it a good idea to coat the bottom of a steel hull houseboat
  >> with a bed liner like Rhino Tuff Stuff, or something like it? One
  >> person told me they start to peel off after a few years, but I
  >> would think there are products of different quality, as well as
  >> possible improvements in products of years ago which may be
  >> the ones peeling (or whatever) today.
  >>
  >> Do those type coatings come in different colors? It seems to
  >> me that if they would work well in a truck bed, something like
  >> that ought to be great for the roof of a houseboat which gets
  >> similar traffic and things dragged around on it, etc....that is, if
  >> the stuff is available in white.
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Rhino type bed liners on boats??? 

dh_ld DeleteThis @nomail.com wrote in message news:<2k8jg05r2s78co674bbmm3dv10grjcrund DeleteThis @4ax.com>...
 > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:08:41 -0400, "Doug Dotson" <dougdotson DeleteThis @NOSPAMcablespeed.NOSPAMcom> wrote:
 >
  > >From what I gather over the years, the inside if a steal hull boat
  > >should be left accessable for maintenance.
  > >
  > >Doug
  > >s/v Callista
 >
 > I'm talking about the outside, not the inside. Several boaters
 > around here (fresh water) have done so.
 >


This Rhino stuff although very tough is very rough .. I would be
concerned it increases drag of the boat in the water significantly ...

Matt<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Rhino type bed liners on boats??? 

I don't know about bottoms, but I have been selling companies on using it
for a deck coating for several years now. Non skid from hell and zero maint.
One work boat out there I just re-visited, 6 years on the fordeck, no signs
of damage or steel deterioration beneath.

<dh_ld DeleteThis @nomail.com> wrote in message
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 > Is it a good idea to coat the bottom of a steel hull houseboat
 > with a bed liner like Rhino Tuff Stuff, or something like it? One
 > person told me they start to peel off after a few years, but I
 > would think there are products of different quality, as well as
 > possible improvements in products of years ago which may be
 > the ones peeling (or whatever) today.
 >
 > Do those type coatings come in different colors? It seems to
 > me that if they would work well in a truck bed, something like
 > that ought to be great for the roof of a houseboat which gets
 > similar traffic and things dragged around on it, etc....that is, if
 > the stuff is available in white.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Rhino type bed liners on boats??? 

On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 00:16:42 GMT, dh_ld.TakeThisOut@nomail.com wrote:

 >Is it a good idea to coat the bottom of a steel hull houseboat
 >with a bed liner like Rhino Tuff Stuff, or something like it? One
 >person told me they start to peel off after a few years, but I
 >would think there are products of different quality, as well as
 >possible improvements in products of years ago which may be
 >the ones peeling (or whatever) today.
 >
 >Do those type coatings come in different colors? It seems to
 >me that if they would work well in a truck bed, something like
 >that ought to be great for the roof of a houseboat which gets
 >similar traffic and things dragged around on it, etc....that is, if
 >the stuff is available in white.

Hi,

For a hull POR15, coal tar epoxy or even plain epoxy are other
alternatives, though correct surface preparation is key. Would be
worth finding out what is used on commercial steel freshwater boats.

cheers,
Pete.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Rhino type bed liners on boats??? 

I had a similar idea for lining the anchor chain locker.
Same reservations though, I couldn't get it out (in one piece anyway) to
check behind it...

Mark.

"Doug Dotson" <dougdotson.DeleteThis@NOSPAMcablespeed.NOSPAMcom> wrote in message
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 > From what I gather over the years, the inside if a steal hull boat
 > should be left accessable for maintenance.
 >
 > Doug
 > s/v Callista
 >
 > <dh_ld.DeleteThis@nomail.com> wrote in message
 > news:s44jg0l1qro1kvt99900vfibbfsmith54j@4ax.com...
  > > Is it a good idea to coat the bottom of a steel hull houseboat
  > > with a bed liner like Rhino Tuff Stuff, or something like it? One
  > > person told me they start to peel off after a few years, but I
  > > would think there are products of different quality, as well as
  > > possible improvements in products of years ago which may be
  > > the ones peeling (or whatever) today.
  > >
  > > Do those type coatings come in different colors? It seems to
  > > me that if they would work well in a truck bed, something like
  > > that ought to be great for the roof of a houseboat which gets
  > > similar traffic and things dragged around on it, etc....that is, if
  > > the stuff is available in white.
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Rhino type bed liners on boats??? 

Matt,
I wonder if the right kind of ruff might not be better. From what I've
read some of the speed swimmers are using a type of body suit that mimics a
fish's skin, reducing drag.
Paul

"Matt Lang" <web1000 DeleteThis @shaw.ca> wrote in message
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 > dh_ld DeleteThis @nomail.com wrote in message
news:<2k8jg05r2s78co674bbmm3dv10grjcrund DeleteThis @4ax.com>...
  > > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:08:41 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
<dougdotson DeleteThis @NOSPAMcablespeed.NOSPAMcom> wrote:
  > >
   > > >From what I gather over the years, the inside if a steal hull boat
   > > >should be left accessable for maintenance.
   > > >
   > > >Doug
   > > >s/v Callista
  > >
  > > I'm talking about the outside, not the inside. Several boaters
  > > around here (fresh water) have done so.
  > >
 >
 >
 > This Rhino stuff although very tough is very rough .. I would be
 > concerned it increases drag of the boat in the water significantly ...
 >
 > Matt<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Rhino type bed liners on boats??? 

HL,
What do you mean by "steel deterioration beneath"? Beneath the coating?
How do you tell if the bonding is complete and there is no moisture
intrusion. It would seem that by the time you seen damage to the steel deck,
from below decks, the deck would be almost gone.
Paul

"HLAviation" <caphenning.TakeThisOut@RMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > I don't know about bottoms, but I have been selling companies on using it
 > for a deck coating for several years now. Non skid from hell and zero
maint.
 > One work boat out there I just re-visited, 6 years on the fordeck, no
signs
 > of damage or steel deterioration beneath.
 >
 > <dh_ld.TakeThisOut@nomail.com> wrote in message
 > news:s44jg0l1qro1kvt99900vfibbfsmith54j@4ax.com...
  > > Is it a good idea to coat the bottom of a steel hull houseboat
  > > with a bed liner like Rhino Tuff Stuff, or something like it? One
  > > person told me they start to peel off after a few years, but I
  > > would think there are products of different quality, as well as
  > > possible improvements in products of years ago which may be
  > > the ones peeling (or whatever) today.
  > >
  > > Do those type coatings come in different colors? It seems to
  > > me that if they would work well in a truck bed, something like
  > > that ought to be great for the roof of a houseboat which gets
  > > similar traffic and things dragged around on it, etc....that is, if
  > > the stuff is available in white.
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Rhino type bed liners on boats??? 

There's rough, and there's random rough....

Some guy was telling me a story about local fishermen, in a place long
forgotten, who smear 5200 on the outside like they were plastering a
wall.

I've no idea how well it works.



On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:11:53 -0400, "Paul Schilter"
<paulschilter@comcast,dot,net> wrote:

 >Matt,
 > I wonder if the right kind of ruff might not be better. From what I've
 >read some of the speed swimmers are using a type of body suit that mimics a
 >fish's skin, reducing drag.
 >Paul
 >
 >"Matt Lang" <web1000 DeleteThis @shaw.ca> wrote in message
 >news:a0e12e54.0407292328.115f6a36@posting.google.com...
  >> dh_ld DeleteThis @nomail.com wrote in message
 >news:<2k8jg05r2s78co674bbmm3dv10grjcrund DeleteThis @4ax.com>...
   >> > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:08:41 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
 ><dougdotson DeleteThis @NOSPAMcablespeed.NOSPAMcom> wrote:
   >> >
   >> > >From what I gather over the years, the inside if a steal hull boat
   >> > >should be left accessable for maintenance.
   >> > >
   >> > >Doug
   >> > >s/v Callista
   >> >
   >> > I'm talking about the outside, not the inside. Several boaters
   >> > around here (fresh water) have done so.
   >> >
  >>
  >>
  >> This Rhino stuff although very tough is very rough .. I would be
  >> concerned it increases drag of the boat in the water significantly ...
  >>
  >> Matt
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Rhino type bed liners on boats??? 

On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:17:44 GMT, "HLAviation" <caphenning.DeleteThis@RMyahoo.com> wrote:

 >I don't know about bottoms, but I have been selling companies on using it
 >for a deck coating for several years now. Non skid from hell and zero maint.
 >One work boat out there I just re-visited, 6 years on the fordeck, no signs
 >of damage or steel deterioration beneath.

What would be good for a roof? Is it available in white? Where to get it
and how to apply it?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Rhino type bed liners on boats??? 

You would be able to tell if you had rust under the coating on steel, It
would be a mound that would keep growing. Just like you would tell if your
car had a pinhole in the paint and it was rusting underneath. If the metal
is prepped correctly and applied the same it works well because it has some
flexibility and is resistant to chipping not allowing water to get
underneath.
I had the stuff sprayed on my pickup truck bed and it's great. My friend in
the construction business had it sprayed in his truck and beats it up good
and has a diesel tank in the bed that gets spills and it hasn't been
bothered in 4 years.
I don't know that I would use it underneath. How would you clean such a
rough surface?

"Paul Schilter" <paulschilter@comcast,dot,net> wrote in message
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 > HL,
 > What do you mean by "steel deterioration beneath"? Beneath the
coating?
 > How do you tell if the bonding is complete and there is no moisture
 > intrusion. It would seem that by the time you seen damage to the steel
deck,
 > from below decks, the deck would be almost gone.
 > Paul
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Rhino type bed liners on boats??? 

I have been looking at a product like this called Durabak. It is sold
specifically for painting onto the decks of steel boats. Their web
site is www.nonslipcoating.com It looks pretty good, but I have not
had any experience with it whatsoever. Have any of you seen it in
action or heard any comments about it?

Lee Huddleston
s/v Truelove
 >> Stay informed about: Rhino type bed liners on boats??? 

Lee,
Maybe they can send you a sample to try on the deck?

"Lee Huddleston" <orion2279.DeleteThis@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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 > I have been looking at a product like this called Durabak. It is sold
 > specifically for painting onto the decks of steel boats. Their web
 > site is <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.nonslipcoating.com" target="_blank">www.nonslipcoating.com</a> It looks pretty good, but I have not
 > had any experience with it whatsoever. Have any of you seen it in
 > action or heard any comments about it?
 >
 > Lee Huddleston
 > s/v Truelove<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Rhino type bed liners on boats??? 

Works on golf balls.

"Paul Schilter" <paulschilter@comcast,dot,net> wrote in message
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 > Matt,
 > I wonder if the right kind of ruff might not be better.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Rhino type bed liners on boats???