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Peter

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:28 am
Post subject: Problems with Navico corus windset
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I have a Navico Corus windset. It does not work anymore. Before I send it
to
the manufactory I want to measure if there is a problem with the windset or
the cable. Who knows what I can measure on the cable(colors) or windset? Is
there a scematic on the internet?
Thanks Peter

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Larry

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:28 am
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"Peter" wrote in


> I have a Navico Corus windset. It does not work anymore. Before I
> send it
> to
> the manufactory I want to measure if there is a problem with the
> windset or the cable. Who knows what I can measure on the
> cable(colors) or windset? Is there a scematic on the internet?
> Thanks Peter
>
>

Peter, does anyone else have a Navico Corus in your marina you can use to
test your display head? It's usually just a matter of taking your display
to his boat and plugging it in to test it on his masthead unit. Once you
confirm your display is working on someone else's boat, you can order the
replacement masthead unit. Look around the masts and find your matching
masthead unit and ask the owner if you can try it.

Are you sure there are no splices or terminal blocks between the display
and the masthead anemometer? On our boat, the B&G Network Wind instrument
came with the boat and I determined the masthead anemometer was the
problem. But, after buying a new one (now stored as a spare), I started
trying to find the wires in the mast cabling to pull the new cable in and
discovered the idiot who had the boat had spliced the cable with an open
terminal block down under the cabin sole in the bilge, where the wet just
rotted the terminals until the wires no longer made contact properly.
Resplicing the wires properly and sealing them up forever cured the
problem, saving us a lot of rewiring throughout the boat.

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nollaigoc

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:26 pm
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Hi

The Navico Corus system uses the canbus protocol,
http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_CAN.html
an open protocol, which is commonly used in automotive engine control
systems. This is similar to NEMA but faster. Try googling for canbus
and you may be able to find information to help you to troubleshoot.
The cable ends need terminating resistors.

I too have a Navico corus system. When Simrad bought out Navico, they
abandoned the Navico product line in favour of their proprietary
system. Very anti-competetive.

Good Luck

Clark wrote:
> Peter Wrote:
> > I have a Navico Corus windset. It does not work anymore. Before I send
> > it
> > to
> > the manufactory I want to measure if there is a problem with the
> > windset or
> > the cable. Who knows what I can measure on the cable(colors) or
> > windset? Is
> > there a scematic on the internet?
> > Thanks Peter
>
> I'm in the same boat, so to speak. Navico is out of bussiness, Simrand
> bought them out but dosen't do any work on Navico parts and has no
> parts.
>
> The cable is just a couple of twisted pairs. You can just check it
> with an ohm meter. The windset can be tested by using another cable to
> your display head.
>
> If you decide to abandon your Navico instraments I might be interested
> in buying some parts to keep my system going.
>
> Clark Willix ( ) www.goecities.com/willix
>
>
>
>
> --
> Clark
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Clark

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:55 pm
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Peter Wrote:
> I have a Navico Corus windset. It does not work anymore. Before I send
> it
> to
> the manufactory I want to measure if there is a problem with the
> windset or
> the cable. Who knows what I can measure on the cable(colors) or
> windset? Is
> there a scematic on the internet?
> Thanks Peter

I'm in the same boat, so to speak. Navico is out of bussiness, Simrand
bought them out but dosen't do any work on Navico parts and has no
parts.

The cable is just a couple of twisted pairs. You can just check it
with an ohm meter. The windset can be tested by using another cable to
your display head.

If you decide to abandon your Navico instraments I might be interested
in buying some parts to keep my system going.

Clark Willix ( ) www.goecities.com/willix




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Clark
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Meindert Sprang

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:01 am
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"nollaigoc" wrote in message

> Hi
>
> The Navico Corus system uses the canbus protocol,
> http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_CAN.html
> an open protocol, which is commonly used in automotive engine control
> systems. This is similar to NEMA but faster. Try googling for canbus
> and you may be able to find information to help you to troubleshoot.

And don't forgot to bring a good digital storage scope and a CAN bus
analyzer.....

Meindert
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John Proctor

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Since: Sep 12, 2006
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:26 am
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On 2006-09-21 07:26:45 +1000, "nollaigoc" said:

> Hi
>
> The Navico Corus system uses the canbus protocol,
> http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_CAN.html
> an open protocol, which is commonly used in automotive engine control
> systems. This is similar to NEMA but faster. Try googling for canbus
> and you may be able to find information to help you to troubleshoot.
> The cable ends need terminating resistors.
>
> I too have a Navico corus system. When Simrad bought out Navico, they
> abandoned the Navico product line in favour of their proprietary
> system. Very anti-competetive.
>
> Good Luck
>
> Clark wrote:
>> Peter Wrote:
>>> I have a Navico Corus windset. It does not work anymore. Before I send
>>> it
>>> to
>>> the manufactory I want to measure if there is a problem with the
>>> windset or
>>> the cable. Who knows what I can measure on the cable(colors) or
>>> windset? Is
>>> there a scematic on the internet?
>>> Thanks Peter
>>
>> I'm in the same boat, so to speak. Navico is out of bussiness, Simrand
>> bought them out but dosen't do any work on Navico parts and has no
>> parts.
>>
>> The cable is just a couple of twisted pairs. You can just check it
>> with an ohm meter. The windset can be tested by using another cable to
>> your display head.
>>
>> If you decide to abandon your Navico instraments I might be interested
>> in buying some parts to keep my system going.
>>
>> Clark Willix ( ) www.goecities.com/willix
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Clark

Well the interface may be stabdard but the data protocol sent over it
is not. It can be whatever the user (manufacturer wants).

As soon as any Navico gear stops working you have three choices:

1. Fix it yourself
2. Dump it and get along without it
3. Replace it with something that is supported

Simrad's parent has a handy knack of acquiring competitors and then
deep sixing them. Navico is one such case. I wonder how long B&G will
exist since they have been bought out by Kongsberg too?

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Regards,
John
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