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user18

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 9:31 am
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Hi all

anyone ever use the platinum spark plugs in a wave runner?
or has anyone ever put racing fuel 110 octane+ in a stock wave runner?

Thanks
Mark

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Larrysperf

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 1:14 am
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 >
 >Hi all
 >
 >anyone ever use the platinum spark plugs in a wave runner?
 >or has anyone ever put racing fuel 110 octane+ in a stock wave runner?
 >
 >Thanks
 >Mark
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >

Waste of $$$$$. You dont need them.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 8:49 am
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what about racing fuel?
Thanks



On 18 May 2004 22:14:22 GMT, larrysperf RemoveThis @aol.com (Larrysperf) wrote:

  >>
  >>Hi all
  >>
  >>anyone ever use the platinum spark plugs in a wave runner?
  >>or has anyone ever put racing fuel 110 octane+ in a stock wave runner?
  >>
  >>Thanks
  >>Mark
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
 >
 >Waste of $$$$$. You dont need them.
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Mr. HPT1

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 9:25 am
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Racing fuel will not provide any benefits with out changing compression
according to octane rating of a fuel.
In fact your engine may loose power due to slower burning fuel.
Waist of money and efforts.

George Ski
HPT Sport USA
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 > what about racing fuel?
 > Thanks
 >
 >
 >

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   > >>
   > >>Hi all
   > >>
   > >>anyone ever use the platinum spark plugs in a wave runner?
   > >>or has anyone ever put racing fuel 110 octane+ in a stock wave runner?
   > >>
   > >>Thanks
   > >>Mark
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
  > >
  > >Waste of $$$$$. You dont need them.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 1:56 pm
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putting higer octane fuel than is required does NOTHING for performance. In
fact it can degrade performance in some situations.

Same goes for cars. Thousands of morons think they are doing their car a
favor buy buying " the good gas" when it is designed for 87 octane. All
they are doing is wasting $$$. 99% of the cars on the road today are
designed to run on 87!


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 > Hi all
 >
 > anyone ever use the platinum spark plugs in a wave runner?
 > or has anyone ever put racing fuel 110 octane+ in a stock wave runner?
 >
 > Thanks
 > Mark
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Carl Farrington

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 9:28 pm
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Chief_Wiggum wrote:
 > putting higer octane fuel than is required does NOTHING for
 > performance. In fact it can degrade performance in some situations.
 >
 > Same goes for cars. Thousands of morons think they are doing their
 > car a favor buy buying " the good gas" when it is designed for 87
 > octane. All they are doing is wasting $$$. 99% of the cars on the
 > road today are designed to run on 87!

I'd have to disagree! Any engine which can actively detect knocking and
adjust its timing right up to the limit before knocking occurs will benefit
from the higher octane fuel.

I'd say this is far more than 1% of the cars on the road. I'm sure the
JetSki's don't have active knock sensing though.
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Mr. HPT1

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 2:22 am
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Carl, you have the right to disagree, but the fact remains the same.
Two stroke engine can lose great deal of torque if octane rating ( burning
speed of fuel ) dos not correspond to port time duration, corrected
compression and combustion chamber temperature.
These are the facts. If fuel is burning when transfer ports open, your scoot
will not be happy at all.
In fact if such power plant is subjected to a heavy load, you will be
talking to your banker very soon.
And if you come across what I call two stroke rapist who will take you to
cleaners, chances are your wife will serve you with divorce papers.
LOL
You have the right to do what ever you wish with my response.
The ugly Chief was correct.

X ring George
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 > Chief_Wiggum wrote:
  > > putting higer octane fuel than is required does NOTHING for
  > > performance. In fact it can degrade performance in some situations.
  > >
  > > Same goes for cars. Thousands of morons think they are doing their
  > > car a favor buy buying " the good gas" when it is designed for 87
  > > octane. All they are doing is wasting $$$. 99% of the cars on the
  > > road today are designed to run on 87!
 >
 > I'd have to disagree! Any engine which can actively detect knocking and
 > adjust its timing right up to the limit before knocking occurs will
benefit
 > from the higher octane fuel.
 >
 > I'd say this is far more than 1% of the cars on the road. I'm sure the
 > JetSki's don't have active knock sensing though.
 >
 >
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Tom Howlin1

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 9:06 pm
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"Carl Farrington" wrote in message ...
 > Chief_Wiggum wrote:
  > > putting higer octane fuel than is required does NOTHING for
  > > performance. In fact it can degrade performance in some situations.
  > >
  > > Same goes for cars. Thousands of morons think they are doing their
  > > car a favor buy buying " the good gas" when it is designed for 87
  > > octane. All they are doing is wasting $$$. 99% of the cars on the
  > > road today are designed to run on 87!
 >
 > I'd have to disagree! Any engine which can actively detect knocking and
 > adjust its timing right up to the limit before knocking occurs will benefit
 > from the higher octane fuel.
 >
 > I'd say this is far more than 1% of the cars on the road. I'm sure the
 > JetSki's don't have active knock sensing though.

Benefit how? More performance, possibly, better fuel mileage, no. My
03 4Runner has a knock sensor and will run slightly better on premium
than regular but not the $.20 a gallon difference worth, especially
with today's prices. Most cars (99%?) were designed to run on 87 and
don't NEED the higher octane unless the owner wants to believe they
are getting more performance. In cars without knock sensors, the
higher octane can actually create operating problems and should be
avoided. Even more so with two-strokes because of the plug fouling
issues associated with too slow a flame front. Mercury outboards
specifically prohibit the running of high test because of driveability
issues.

Tom
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Carl Farrington

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 1:38 am
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Mr. HPT wrote:
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  >> Chief_Wiggum wrote:
   >>> putting higer octane fuel than is required does NOTHING for
   >>> performance. In fact it can degrade performance in some situations.
   >>>
   >>> Same goes for cars. Thousands of morons think they are doing their
   >>> car a favor buy buying " the good gas" when it is designed for 87
   >>> octane. All they are doing is wasting $$$. 99% of the cars on the
   >>> road today are designed to run on 87!
  >>
  >> I'd have to disagree! Any engine which can actively detect knocking
  >> and adjust its timing right up to the limit before knocking occurs
  >> will benefit from the higher octane fuel.
  >>
  >> I'd say this is far more than 1% of the cars on the road. I'm sure
  >> the JetSki's don't have active knock sensing though.

 > Carl, you have the right to disagree, but the fact remains the same.
 > Two stroke engine can lose great deal of torque if octane rating (
 > burning speed of fuel ) dos not correspond to port time duration,
 > corrected compression and combustion chamber temperature.
 > These are the facts. If fuel is burning when transfer ports open,
 > your scoot will not be happy at all.
 > In fact if such power plant is subjected to a heavy load, you will be
 > talking to your banker very soon.
 > And if you come across what I call two stroke rapist who will take
 > you to cleaners, chances are your wife will serve you with divorce
 > papers.
 > LOL
 > You have the right to do what ever you wish with my response.
 > The ugly Chief was correct.


Not talking about two strokes. Talking about people putting super unleaded
fuel in their cars.
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