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Kevin Debbie

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 3:37 pm
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Merry Christmas group.
I was wondering if any one would know roughly how much insurance is for
PWCs. I'm thinking of getting a fairly new one to tow behind the cruiser
in place of the dinghy. Any suggestions for a company/broker who
specializes in this type of insurance?
TIA.
Kevin

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:49 pm
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Hi Kevin

PWC insurance can range from $300-$600 a year depending on the coverage.
I tow my 96 Seadoo GTX (3 seater)behind my boat without too many
issues. I have a single big block in my cruiser and it cost me around
200 RPM when the Seadoo is in tow and I'm on plane.
We also have a dingy that spends most of its time in storage as there is
no comparison. The PWC is the way to go.

Steve

Kevin & Debbie wrote:

 > Merry Christmas group.
 > I was wondering if any one would know roughly how much insurance is for
 > PWCs. I'm thinking of getting a fairly new one to tow behind the cruiser
 > in place of the dinghy. Any suggestions for a company/broker who
 > specializes in this type of insurance?
 > TIA.
 > Kevin
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Kevin Debbie

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 12:49 am
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Hi Steve
Thanks for the quick response. If you don't mind I have a few other
questions.
How do you tow the ski? I have seen a few methods, ranging from a tow
rope to a "hitch" affair. The one I am thinking of copying is called the
towdster.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.towdster.com/products.htm" target="_blank">http://www.towdster.com/products.htm</a>
I have twin V6's so I would imagine we are in the same category re-
loss of rpm.
I am thinking of the Seadoo GTX RFI, or, depending on price, a newer
RFI model. What is your opinion of Seadoos, and fuel injection compared
to carbs.
You mention that there were some issues regarding towing, what might
those be?
Again, thanks for the info. Any and all thoughts are appreciated,
especially recommendations regarding the ski.

Regards,
Kevin

SJD wrote:
 > Hi Kevin
 >
 > PWC insurance can range from $300-$600 a year depending on the coverage.
 > I tow my 96 Seadoo GTX (3 seater)behind my boat without too many
 > issues. I have a single big block in my cruiser and it cost me around
 > 200 RPM when the Seadoo is in tow and I'm on plane.
 > We also have a dingy that spends most of its time in storage as there is
 > no comparison. The PWC is the way to go.
 >
 > Steve
 >
 > Kevin & Debbie wrote:
 >
  >> Merry Christmas group.
  >> I was wondering if any one would know roughly how much insurance is
  >> for PWCs. I'm thinking of getting a fairly new one to tow behind the
  >> cruiser in place of the dinghy. Any suggestions for a company/broker
  >> who specializes in this type of insurance?
  >> TIA.
  >> Kevin
  >>
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SJD

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 2:16 am
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Hi Kevin

I have made a bridle using 3/8 floating dock rope and use carabiners
that clip on to the tow hooks on the transom. The line extends about
7'- 10' from the transom when extended in the center. I also use a
plastic float on the rope to prevent it from being sucked under when in
reverse. I then have a line that clips to the bridle using another
carabiner and through some trial and error, have the Seadoo extended
around 8-10' behind the rooster tail created from the boat. This was
fairly easy.

The one problem you will run into is the speed of your boat on plane
versus the Seadoo. The boat has a lower plane speed. I have to run my
boat faster than normal to keep the Seadoo on step. If not, the Seadoo
is a great anchor and creates lots of drag. Once you are on step the
issues are almost finished. I hardly notice the trailer being towed.
The only additional thing to remember is quick stopping. When on plane
the Seadoo stays there longer than the boat. Gradual stops are highly
recommended but this isn't too critical.

Before docking the boat, I bring the Seadoo along side opposite of the
side I am docking. I use 3 bumpers to protect my Seadoo from the
boat(or vise versa)and snug the lines to make sure the seadoo follows
the boat and isn't a hazard, especially in reverse.

It takes a bit of practice but with the correct length lines it's very
easy and everything hooks to the cleats. We have be doing this for 5
years and wouldn't go any other way.

Steve

Kevin & Debbie wrote:

 > Hi Steve
 > Thanks for the quick response. If you don't mind I have a few other
 > questions.
 > How do you tow the ski? I have seen a few methods, ranging from a tow
 > rope to a "hitch" affair. The one I am thinking of copying is called the
 > towdster.
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.towdster.com/products.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.towdster.com/products.htm</font</a>>
 > I have twin V6's so I would imagine we are in the same category re-
 > loss of rpm.
 > I am thinking of the Seadoo GTX RFI, or, depending on price, a newer RFI
 > model. What is your opinion of Seadoos, and fuel injection compared to
 > carbs.
 > You mention that there were some issues regarding towing, what might
 > those be?
 > Again, thanks for the info. Any and all thoughts are appreciated,
 > especially recommendations regarding the ski.
 >
 > Regards,
 > Kevin
 >
 > SJD wrote:
 >
  >> Hi Kevin
  >>
  >> PWC insurance can range from $300-$600 a year depending on the
  >> coverage. I tow my 96 Seadoo GTX (3 seater)behind my boat without
  >> too many issues. I have a single big block in my cruiser and it cost
  >> me around 200 RPM when the Seadoo is in tow and I'm on plane.
  >> We also have a dingy that spends most of its time in storage as there
  >> is no comparison. The PWC is the way to go.
  >>
  >> Steve
  >>
  >> Kevin & Debbie wrote:
  >>
   >>> Merry Christmas group.
   >>> I was wondering if any one would know roughly how much insurance is
   >>> for PWCs. I'm thinking of getting a fairly new one to tow behind the
   >>> cruiser in place of the dinghy. Any suggestions for a company/broker
   >>> who specializes in this type of insurance?
   >>> TIA.
   >>> Kevin
   >>>
  >>
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Kevin Debbie

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 1:59 am
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Hey Steve.
Great info. What kind of speed does the seadoo plane at? I usually run
25-28 mph(3400 rpm)with the boat. I kinda hate to have to run at 30 mph
(3800 rpm) and above.
Thanks
Kevin

SJD wrote:
 > Hi Kevin
 >
 > I have made a bridle using 3/8 floating dock rope and use carabiners
 > that clip on to the tow hooks on the transom. The line extends about
 > 7'- 10' from the transom when extended in the center. I also use a
 > plastic float on the rope to prevent it from being sucked under when in
 > reverse. I then have a line that clips to the bridle using another
 > carabiner and through some trial and error, have the Seadoo extended
 > around 8-10' behind the rooster tail created from the boat. This was
 > fairly easy.
 >
 > The one problem you will run into is the speed of your boat on plane
 > versus the Seadoo. The boat has a lower plane speed. I have to run my
 > boat faster than normal to keep the Seadoo on step. If not, the Seadoo
 > is a great anchor and creates lots of drag. Once you are on step the
 > issues are almost finished. I hardly notice the trailer being towed.
 > The only additional thing to remember is quick stopping. When on plane
 > the Seadoo stays there longer than the boat. Gradual stops are highly
 > recommended but this isn't too critical.
 >
 > Before docking the boat, I bring the Seadoo along side opposite of the
 > side I am docking. I use 3 bumpers to protect my Seadoo from the
 > boat(or vise versa)and snug the lines to make sure the seadoo follows
 > the boat and isn't a hazard, especially in reverse.
 >
 > It takes a bit of practice but with the correct length lines it's very
 > easy and everything hooks to the cleats. We have be doing this for 5
 > years and wouldn't go any other way.
 >
 > Steve
 >
 > Kevin & Debbie wrote:
 >
  >> Hi Steve
  >> Thanks for the quick response. If you don't mind I have a few other
  >> questions.
  >> How do you tow the ski? I have seen a few methods, ranging from a tow
  >> rope to a "hitch" affair. The one I am thinking of copying is called
  >> the towdster.
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.towdster.com/products.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.towdster.com/products.htm</font</a>>
  >> I have twin V6's so I would imagine we are in the same category re-
  >> loss of rpm.
  >> I am thinking of the Seadoo GTX RFI, or, depending on price, a newer
  >> RFI model. What is your opinion of Seadoos, and fuel injection
  >> compared to carbs.
  >> You mention that there were some issues regarding towing, what might
  >> those be?
  >> Again, thanks for the info. Any and all thoughts are appreciated,
  >> especially recommendations regarding the ski.
  >>
  >> Regards,
  >> Kevin
  >>
  >> SJD wrote:
  >>
   >>> Hi Kevin
   >>>
   >>> PWC insurance can range from $300-$600 a year depending on the
   >>> coverage. I tow my 96 Seadoo GTX (3 seater)behind my boat without
   >>> too many issues. I have a single big block in my cruiser and it cost
   >>> me around 200 RPM when the Seadoo is in tow and I'm on plane.
   >>> We also have a dingy that spends most of its time in storage as there
   >>> is no comparison. The PWC is the way to go.
   >>>
   >>> Steve
   >>>
   >>> Kevin & Debbie wrote:
   >>>
   >>>> Merry Christmas group.
   >>>> I was wondering if any one would know roughly how much insurance is
   >>>> for PWCs. I'm thinking of getting a fairly new one to tow behind the
   >>>> cruiser in place of the dinghy. Any suggestions for a company/broker
   >>>> who specializes in this type of insurance?
   >>>> TIA.
   >>>> Kevin
   >>>>
   >>>
  >>
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SJD

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 4:43 pm
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You should be fine at 25-28 MPH. My boat runs at 22-24 and the seadoo
is ok but 24 is better. I am running about 3600-3800 RPM to maintain
this. Without the Seadoo I'm running 3600 max to achieve the same speed.

Good luck and Merry Christmas.

Steve

Kevin & Debbie wrote:
 > Hey Steve.
 > Great info. What kind of speed does the seadoo plane at? I usually run
 > 25-28 mph(3400 rpm)with the boat. I kinda hate to have to run at 30 mph
 > (3800 rpm) and above.
 > Thanks
 > Kevin
 >
 > SJD wrote:
 >
  >> Hi Kevin
  >>
  >> I have made a bridle using 3/8 floating dock rope and use carabiners
  >> that clip on to the tow hooks on the transom. The line extends about
  >> 7'- 10' from the transom when extended in the center. I also use a
  >> plastic float on the rope to prevent it from being sucked under when
  >> in reverse. I then have a line that clips to the bridle using another
  >> carabiner and through some trial and error, have the Seadoo extended
  >> around 8-10' behind the rooster tail created from the boat. This was
  >> fairly easy.
  >>
  >> The one problem you will run into is the speed of your boat on plane
  >> versus the Seadoo. The boat has a lower plane speed. I have to run
  >> my boat faster than normal to keep the Seadoo on step. If not, the
  >> Seadoo is a great anchor and creates lots of drag. Once you are on
  >> step the issues are almost finished. I hardly notice the trailer
  >> being towed. The only additional thing to remember is quick stopping.
  >> When on plane the Seadoo stays there longer than the boat. Gradual
  >> stops are highly recommended but this isn't too critical.
  >>
  >> Before docking the boat, I bring the Seadoo along side opposite of the
  >> side I am docking. I use 3 bumpers to protect my Seadoo from the
  >> boat(or vise versa)and snug the lines to make sure the seadoo follows
  >> the boat and isn't a hazard, especially in reverse.
  >>
  >> It takes a bit of practice but with the correct length lines it's very
  >> easy and everything hooks to the cleats. We have be doing this for 5
  >> years and wouldn't go any other way.
  >>
  >> Steve
  >>
  >> Kevin & Debbie wrote:
  >>
   >>> Hi Steve
   >>> Thanks for the quick response. If you don't mind I have a few other
   >>> questions.
   >>> How do you tow the ski? I have seen a few methods, ranging from a tow
   >>> rope to a "hitch" affair. The one I am thinking of copying is called
   >>> the towdster.
<font color=brown>   >>> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.towdster.com/products.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.towdster.com/products.htm</font</a>>
   >>> I have twin V6's so I would imagine we are in the same category re-
   >>> loss of rpm.
   >>> I am thinking of the Seadoo GTX RFI, or, depending on price, a newer
   >>> RFI model. What is your opinion of Seadoos, and fuel injection
   >>> compared to carbs.
   >>> You mention that there were some issues regarding towing, what might
   >>> those be?
   >>> Again, thanks for the info. Any and all thoughts are appreciated,
   >>> especially recommendations regarding the ski.
   >>>
   >>> Regards,
   >>> Kevin
   >>>
   >>> SJD wrote:
   >>>
   >>>> Hi Kevin
   >>>>
   >>>> PWC insurance can range from $300-$600 a year depending on the
   >>>> coverage. I tow my 96 Seadoo GTX (3 seater)behind my boat without
   >>>> too many issues. I have a single big block in my cruiser and it
   >>>> cost me around 200 RPM when the Seadoo is in tow and I'm on plane.
   >>>> We also have a dingy that spends most of its time in storage as
   >>>> there is no comparison. The PWC is the way to go.
   >>>>
   >>>> Steve
   >>>>
   >>>> Kevin & Debbie wrote:
   >>>>
   >>>>> Merry Christmas group.
   >>>>> I was wondering if any one would know roughly how much insurance is
   >>>>> for PWCs. I'm thinking of getting a fairly new one to tow behind
   >>>>> the cruiser in place of the dinghy. Any suggestions for a
   >>>>> company/broker who specializes in this type of insurance?
   >>>>> TIA.
   >>>>> Kevin
   >>>>>
   >>>>
   >>>
  >>
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