Neat "sea rally" in planning stages for Memorial Day

"Short Wave Sportfishing" <removeemail RemoveThis @swsports.org> wrote in message
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> Chuck Gould wrote:
>> One of my business contacts is putting the finishing touches on a plan
>> to host an endurance and efficiency trial over Memorial Day Weekend.
>> The course will run from Everett, Washington to Ketchikan, Alaska
>> (about 700 miles)...and back! Participants must complete the run in 72
>> hours, and burn no more than 500 gallons of fuel.
>
> That's 1.4 gallons per mile and an average speed of roughly 9.8 knots -
> call it 10 mph.
>
> What's the prize? And what's the size and weight limitations?
>
> Hmmmm - 700 miles, 500 gallons of gas - 72 hours...
>
> Heh, heh, heh.
>
> Depending on the prize, it might be worth driving out there.


700 miles or 1400 miles? I took it to be 700 miles .... one way.

Mrs. E's GB could just about make it ... but not in 72 hours or less.

Eisboch
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Eisboch wrote:
> "Short Wave Sportfishing" <removeemail RemoveThis @swsports.org> wrote in message
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>> Chuck Gould wrote:
>>> One of my business contacts is putting the finishing touches on a plan
>>> to host an endurance and efficiency trial over Memorial Day Weekend.
>>> The course will run from Everett, Washington to Ketchikan, Alaska
>>> (about 700 miles)...and back! Participants must complete the run in 72
>>> hours, and burn no more than 500 gallons of fuel.
>> That's 1.4 gallons per mile and an average speed of roughly 9.8 knots -
>> call it 10 mph.
>>
>> What's the prize? And what's the size and weight limitations?
>>
>> Hmmmm - 700 miles, 500 gallons of gas - 72 hours...
>>
>> Heh, heh, heh.
>>
>> Depending on the prize, it might be worth driving out there.
>
> 700 miles or 1400 miles? I took it to be 700 miles .... one way.
>
> Mrs. E's GB could just about make it ... but not in 72 hours or less.

1400 miles in 72 hours? That's about 20 mph average.

That's why I'm curious about the size and weight rules. I could do it
in the Ranger with gas and time to spare. :>)
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On Feb 24, 12:26�pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
<removeem....DeleteThis@swsports.org> wrote:
> Eisboch wrote:
> > "Short Wave Sportfishing" <removeem....DeleteThis@swsports.org> wrote in message
> >news:mw0Eh.2010$A_1.659@fe01.news.easynews.com...
> >> Chuck Gould wrote:
> >>> One of my business contacts is putting the finishing touches on a plan
> >>> to host an endurance and efficiency trial over Memorial Day Weekend.
> >>> The course will run from Everett, Washington to Ketchikan, Alaska
> >>> (about 700 miles)...and back! Participants must complete the run in 72
> >>> hours, and burn no more than 500 gallons of fuel.
> >> That's 1.4 gallons per mile and an average speed of roughly 9.8 knots -
> >> call it 10 mph.
>
> >> What's the prize?  And what's the size and weight limitations?
>
> >> Hmmmm - 700 miles, 500 gallons of gas - 72 hours...
>
> >> Heh, heh, heh.
>
> >> Depending on the prize, it might be worth driving out there.
>
> > 700 miles or 1400 miles?  I took it to be 700 miles .... one way.
>
> > Mrs. E's GB could just about make it ... but not in 72 hours or less.
>
> 1400 miles in 72 hours?  That's about 20 mph average.
>
> That's why  I'm curious about the size and weight rules.  I could do it
> in the Ranger with gas and time to spare.  :>)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

It's approximately 1400 miles, and as far as I know there are no size
or weight limitations. The challenge is to make the run in 72 hours or
less and use no more than 500 gallons of fuel. There are boats that
could do 8 hours or so each way- but probably at closer to 5000
gallons than 500,

A fair stretch of the run is pretty exposed and there won't be an
opportunity to wait for a weather window, so if the weather is snotty
between Prince Rupert and Ketchikan an extremely lightweight boat will
have a tough time of it. If it's just way too crazy, I would expect
most people would bag it rather than take a serious risk of coming to
ruin. Number one priority will be getting everybody back home safely.

Prizes will be trophies, hats, tee-shirts, bragging rights and (of
value to the dealers and manufacturers) the claim to the number one
spot. It's going to be a lot of fun. We'll be running a lot of
publicity in the magazine, and I think some of the local broadcast
media may pick this story up as weill.

If you seriously think you might consider participating, send me an
email and I will respond to you with contact information that would
put you in touch with the organizer of the event. (Don't want to
offend the "spam" sensitive)
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Chuck Gould wrote:

> If you seriously think you might consider participating, send me an
> email and I will respond to you with contact information that would
> put you in touch with the organizer of the event. (Don't want to
> offend the "spam" sensitive)

I was just joking around - there's no way I'd try it in the Ranger on
those waters.

I do know somebody who might be interested though. He's got a 28'
Blackfin on a trailer wth twin 200 HO ETECS like mine. I'll bet he
would be interested.

I'll give him a call this afternoon.
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
> Chuck Gould wrote:
>
>> If you seriously think you might consider participating, send me an
>> email and I will respond to you with contact information that would
>> put you in touch with the organizer of the event. (Don't want to
>> offend the "spam" sensitive)
>
> I was just joking around - there's no way I'd try it in the Ranger on
> those waters.
>
> I do know somebody who might be interested though. He's got a 28'
> Blackfin on a trailer wth twin 200 HO ETECS like mine. I'll bet he
> would be interested.
>
> I'll give him a call this afternoon.

Iceboating in the Pacific NW?
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On 24 Feb 2007 23:36:21 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
<chuckgould.chuck.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>We'll be running a lot of
>publicity in the magazine, and I think some of the local broadcast
>media may pick this story up as weill.

There might be some liability risks to encouraging a bunch of folks to
go offshore. I've had quite a lot of experience with offshore ocean
racing in sailboats. The sponsors of these events are extremely
safety concious to the point of having a mandated list of safety
equipment and boat design features, crew and captain experience
requirements with resumes, documented SSB radio checks, certified
liferafts, and compulsory safety inspections.

The terms of this "rally" seem heavily slanted to a certain kind of
boat, probably power cats. Everyone else might as well stay home.
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Wayne.B wrote:
> On 24 Feb 2007 23:36:21 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
> <chuckgould.chuck DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We'll be running a lot of
>> publicity in the magazine, and I think some of the local broadcast
>> media may pick this story up as weill.
>
> There might be some liability risks to encouraging a bunch of folks to
> go offshore. I've had quite a lot of experience with offshore ocean
> racing in sailboats. The sponsors of these events are extremely
> safety concious to the point of having a mandated list of safety
> equipment and boat design features, crew and captain experience
> requirements with resumes, documented SSB radio checks, certified
> liferafts, and compulsory safety inspections.

Good point.

> The terms of this "rally" seem heavily slanted to a certain kind of
> boat, probably power cats. Everyone else might as well stay home.

Interesting you should mention that. I was just talking to my buddy
with the Blackfin about this and he thought much the same. We were
chatting about engines and I'm the side of outboards and he's thinking
some small block I/O setup because it fit the parameters of speed and
milage while I'm on the side of beating the parameters.

I'd love to know.
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
> Wayne.B wrote:
>> On 24 Feb 2007 23:36:21 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
>> <chuckgould.chuck.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We'll be running a lot of
>>> publicity in the magazine, and I think some of the local broadcast
>>> media may pick this story up as weill.
>>
>> There might be some liability risks to encouraging a bunch of folks to
>> go offshore. I've had quite a lot of experience with offshore ocean
>> racing in sailboats. The sponsors of these events are extremely
>> safety concious to the point of having a mandated list of safety
>> equipment and boat design features, crew and captain experience
>> requirements with resumes, documented SSB radio checks, certified
>> liferafts, and compulsory safety inspections.
>
> Good point.
>
>> The terms of this "rally" seem heavily slanted to a certain kind of
>> boat, probably power cats. Everyone else might as well stay home.
>
> Interesting you should mention that. I was just talking to my buddy
> with the Blackfin about this and he thought much the same. We were
> chatting about engines and I'm the side of outboards and he's thinking
> some small block I/O setup because it fit the parameters of speed and
> milage while I'm on the side of beating the parameters.
>
> I'd love to know.


Speaking of blackfin, the company, or at least a company using the name
is back in business.

http://www.blackfinboats.com/
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"Harry Krause" <harry.krause DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Speaking of blackfin, the company, or at least a company using the name is
> back in business.
>
> http://www.blackfinboats.com/
>

I always liked the original Blackfins and know several people who have the
sportsfishing models. (one converted from twin 454 gassers to diesels).

I am curious if this "new" Blackfin Co. intends to build in-boards as well
as the outboard models shown on the website. It may be a case where, like
Century who is owned by Yamaha I believe, the name was purchased and boats
are being built simply as platforms for engines.

Eisboch
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Eisboch wrote:
> "Harry Krause" <harry.krause.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:54ds6jF2041q8U2@mid.individual.net...
>
>>
>> Speaking of blackfin, the company, or at least a company using the name is
>> back in business.
>>
>> http://www.blackfinboats.com/
>>
>
> I always liked the original Blackfins and know several people who have the
> sportsfishing models. (one converted from twin 454 gassers to diesels).
>
> I am curious if this "new" Blackfin Co. intends to build in-boards as well
> as the outboard models shown on the website. It may be a case where, like
> Century who is owned by Yamaha I believe, the name was purchased and boats
> are being built simply as platforms for engines.
>
> Eisboch
>
>


I echo your feelings for the original blackfins, which to me seemed to
be the successors to the earlier Bertrams. Most of the newer sportfish
boats these days seem to be in the condo vein, rather than the offshore
sportfish vein.
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On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:55:35 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
<removeemail.RemoveThis@swsports.org> wrote:

>We were
>chatting about engines and I'm the side of outboards and he's thinking
>some small block I/O setup because it fit the parameters of speed and
>milage while I'm on the side of beating the parameters.

Most small block I/Os that I'm familiar with get around 2 nmpg, maybe
2 1/2 on a good day. Those boats are way too small to cruise on big
water for 1400 miles without getting beat up pretty badly.

I think a power cat around 30 ft with diesels is about right but even
they would need a halfway decent weather window for the offshore part
of the trip.

Anything much bigger than that will either not have the speed or not
have the fuel economy.
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On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:03:17 -0500, Harry Krause
<harry.krause.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>I echo your feelings for the original blackfins, which to me seemed to
>be the successors to the earlier Bertrams. Most of the newer sportfish
>boats these days seem to be in the condo vein, rather than the offshore
>sportfish vein.

One of my neighbors down the canal had a real sweet looking Flybridge
Blackfin for sale last year. It looked a lot like a Bertram 31.
Unfortunately it had small gas engines with a lot of hours and it was
just crying out for an expensive repower with diesels.
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Wayne.B wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:55:35 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
> <removeemail.DeleteThis@swsports.org> wrote:
>
>> We were
>> chatting about engines and I'm the side of outboards and he's thinking
>> some small block I/O setup because it fit the parameters of speed and
>> milage while I'm on the side of beating the parameters.
>
> Most small block I/Os that I'm familiar with get around 2 nmpg, maybe
> 2 1/2 on a good day. Those boats are way too small to cruise on big
> water for 1400 miles without getting beat up pretty badly.
>
> I think a power cat around 30 ft with diesels is about right but even
> they would need a halfway decent weather window for the offshore part
> of the trip.
>
> Anything much bigger than that will either not have the speed or not
> have the fuel economy.

Could be.
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