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Since: Nov 10, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 1:40 pm
Post subject: Marine Wiring 2
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Here is what I have:
17ft Aluminium bass boat with 50 HP Evinrude.
This is what I want/need to wire:
Trolling motor 12V
Nav lights front and rear
bilge pump
live well aerator
Electric start
Horn
Would like to run dual batteries. Trolling motor to deep cycle and every
thin else to starting battery. I have priced an onboard battery charger at
Cabelas that will charge both batteries. Is all this necessary?
Should I run large gauge wires from battery to fuse panel in console and run
all circuits from here??
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Since: Dec 02, 2004
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 1:41 pm
Post subject: Re: Marine Wiring 2 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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HiTech Redneck wrote:
> Here is what I have:
>
> 17ft Aluminium <a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=bass%20boat"
onmouseover="window.status='bass boat'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">bass boat</a> with 50 HP
Evinrude.
>
> This is what I want/need to wire:
>
> Trolling motor 12V
> Nav lights front and rear
> <a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=bilge%20pump"
onmouseover="window.status='bilge pump'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">bilge pump</a>
> live well aerator
> Electric start
> Horn
>
> Would like to run dual batteries. Trolling motor to deep cycle and
every
> thin else to starting battery. I have priced an onboard <a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=battery%20charger"
onmouseover="window.status='battery charger'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">battery charger</a> at
> Cabelas that will charge both batteries. Is all this necessary?
>
> Should I run large gauge wires from battery to fuse panel in console
and run
> all circuits from here??
>
> Thanks
I'd use seperate heavy gauge wires for your trolling motor. I know that
mine said to specifically do so, and stated what gauge to use for a
given length. Use an inline fuse for this. For everything else, seeing
how your load is small, you could use your starting battery. I don't
use an onboard charger for my bass boat, I've had crappy luck with
them, it seems the connectors get corroded too easily. I just charge my
trolling motor battery with a Sears charger.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> |
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Since: Jan 04, 2005
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:37 pm
Post subject: Re: Marine Wiring 2 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I'd go with three batteries.
One deep cycle for the trolling motor. Make that a stand-alone circuit.
If you're going to troll for long periods, make sure you have plenty of
amphours. If you can avoid discharging the battery to less than 50% of
capacity, even a deep cycle, it will provide longer and more reliable
service.
A dedicated starting battery for your electric start. Don't put
anything else on this circuit, (IMO), it's just too important to share
with less critical applications like horns, aerators, etc.
A deep cycle battery for the aerator, nav lights, bilge pump, etc.
Connect the starting battery and accessory deep cycle batteries through
a make before break selector switch, ("1,2, both, off"). That will
allow you to draw some juice from the accessory battery, if needed,
when starting your motor.
That may sound like a lot of batteries, but you don't want to go
cheapie with your electrical system. The batteries may not need to be
all that big- and in a 17-footer you don't want to use extra space for
anything, but what should be a two battery setup becomes three with the
trolling motor. >> Stay informed about: Marine Wiring 2 |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:40 pm
Post subject: Re: Marine Wiring 2 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Wieght is a concern. 3 batteries would be to much wieght.
What amperage would nav lights, horn, aerator, etc use?
Basskisser - Does your motor have its own charging system? Is there a way to
set up daul batteries and not use on board charger and have both batteries
charge?
Thanks guys
<gould0738.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1106289477.527087.94320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> I'd go with three batteries.
>
> One deep cycle for the trolling motor. Make that a stand-alone circuit.
> If you're going to troll for long periods, make sure you have plenty of
> amphours. If you can avoid discharging the battery to less than 50% of
> capacity, even a deep cycle, it will provide longer and more reliable
> service.
>
> A dedicated starting battery for your electric start. Don't put
> anything else on this circuit, (IMO), it's just too important to share
> with less critical applications like horns, aerators, etc.
>
> A deep cycle battery for the aerator, nav lights, bilge pump, etc.
>
> Connect the starting battery and accessory deep cycle batteries through
> a make before break selector switch, ("1,2, both, off"). That will
> allow you to draw some juice from the accessory battery, if needed,
> when starting your motor.
>
> That may sound like a lot of batteries, but you don't want to go
> cheapie with your electrical system. The batteries may not need to be
> all that big- and in a 17-footer you don't want to use extra space for
> anything, but what should be a two battery setup becomes three with the
> trolling motor.
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Since: Oct 01, 2003
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:40 pm
Post subject: Re: Marine Wiring 2 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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If you use your trolling motor a lot, and you are not a couple hour
cruise from your favorite trolling spot you MUST have a batt charger.
If weight is a concern.... use 2 batteries.
One starting BACKUP battery and One DEEP cycle battery.
Wire the trolling motor DIRECT to the DEEP CYCLE (Through whatever size
breaker they suggest).
Wire a selector switch to both batteries
Wire everything else to the common on the selector switch.
Add a 2 battery charger
ALWAYS leave the battery switch on the DEEP CYCLE battery (unless your
engine won't start... THEN use the backup starting battery and then
ALWAYS switch right back to the DEEP CYCLE after the engine starts)
This gives you a starting battery that is always ready.... a deep cycle
battery that is always charging and a house system that is tied to the
alternator.
Ed
HiTech Redneck wrote:
> Wieght is a concern. 3 batteries would be to much wieght.
>
> What amperage would nav lights, horn, aerator, etc use?
>
> Basskisser - Does your motor have its own charging system? Is there a way to
> set up daul batteries and not use on board charger and have both batteries
> charge?
>
> Thanks guys
>
> <gould0738.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1106289477.527087.94320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
>>I'd go with three batteries.
>>
>>One deep cycle for the trolling motor. Make that a stand-alone circuit.
>>If you're going to troll for long periods, make sure you have plenty of
>>amphours. If you can avoid discharging the battery to less than 50% of
>>capacity, even a deep cycle, it will provide longer and more reliable
>>service.
>>
>>A dedicated starting battery for your electric start. Don't put
>>anything else on this circuit, (IMO), it's just too important to share
>>with less critical applications like horns, aerators, etc.
>>
>>A deep cycle battery for the aerator, nav lights, bilge pump, etc.
>>
>>Connect the starting battery and accessory deep cycle batteries through
>>a make before break selector switch, ("1,2, both, off"). That will
>>allow you to draw some juice from the accessory battery, if needed,
>>when starting your motor.
>>
>>That may sound like a lot of batteries, but you don't want to go
>>cheapie with your electrical system. The batteries may not need to be
>>all that big- and in a 17-footer you don't want to use extra space for
>>anything, but what should be a two battery setup becomes three with the
>>trolling motor.
>>
>
>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 7:40 pm
Post subject: Re: Marine Wiring 2 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Strongly recommend "The 12 Volt Doctor's Practical Handbook" by Ed Beyn.
Available for many years through BOAT/US. It'll save you it's cost the
first time you complete an electrical project. Mine is the 1983 edition but
remains very current (ha!!) but try for a more recent edition.
Butch
"Ed" <ed DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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> If you use your trolling motor a lot, and you are not a couple hour cruise
> from your favorite trolling spot you MUST have a batt charger.
>
> If weight is a concern.... use 2 batteries.
> One starting BACKUP battery and One DEEP cycle battery.
>
> Wire the trolling motor DIRECT to the DEEP CYCLE (Through whatever size
> breaker they suggest).
>
> Wire a selector switch to both batteries
>
> Wire everything else to the common on the selector switch.
>
> Add a 2 battery charger
>
> ALWAYS leave the battery switch on the DEEP CYCLE battery (unless your
> engine won't start... THEN use the backup starting battery and then ALWAYS
> switch right back to the DEEP CYCLE after the engine starts)
>
> This gives you a starting battery that is always ready.... a deep cycle
> battery that is always charging and a house system that is tied to the
> alternator.
>
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> HiTech Redneck wrote:
>> Wieght is a concern. 3 batteries would be to much wieght.
>>
>> What amperage would nav lights, horn, aerator, etc use?
>>
>> Basskisser - Does your motor have its own charging system? Is there a way
>> to
>> set up daul batteries and not use on board charger and have both
>> batteries
>> charge?
>>
>> Thanks guys
>>
>> <gould0738 DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:1106289477.527087.94320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>I'd go with three batteries.
>>>
>>>One deep cycle for the trolling motor. Make that a stand-alone circuit.
>>>If you're going to troll for long periods, make sure you have plenty of
>>>amphours. If you can avoid discharging the battery to less than 50% of
>>>capacity, even a deep cycle, it will provide longer and more reliable
>>>service.
>>>
>>>A dedicated starting battery for your electric start. Don't put
>>>anything else on this circuit, (IMO), it's just too important to share
>>>with less critical applications like horns, aerators, etc.
>>>
>>>A deep cycle battery for the aerator, nav lights, bilge pump, etc.
>>>
>>>Connect the starting battery and accessory deep cycle batteries through
>>>a make before break selector switch, ("1,2, both, off"). That will
>>>allow you to draw some juice from the accessory battery, if needed,
>>>when starting your motor.
>>>
>>>That may sound like a lot of batteries, but you don't want to go
>>>cheapie with your electrical system. The batteries may not need to be
>>>all that big- and in a 17-footer you don't want to use extra space for
>>>anything, but what should be a two battery setup becomes three with the
>>>trolling motor.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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