Interesting analysis .... Obama/Biden

Eisboch wrote:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080823/ap_on_el_pr/veepstakes_analysis;_y...AjIrvBr
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> or
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> http://tinyurl.com/5lsqcz
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I think says it all:


After all, Biden is anything but a change agent, having been in office
longer than half of all Americans have been alive. Longer than McCain.

And he talks too much.

On the same day he announced his second bid for the presidency, Biden
found himself explaining why he had described Obama as "clean."

And there's the 2007 ABC interview in which Biden said he would stand by
an earlier statement that Obama was not ready to serve as president.

It seems Obama is worried that some voters are starting to agree.
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Eisboch wrote:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080823/ap_on_el_pr/veepstakes_analysis;_y...AjIrvBr
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> or
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> http://tinyurl.com/5lsqcz
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>

Yawn.
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On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 07:44:47 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


> I was just thinking .... if McCain goes with Romney, it will be an
> interesting match up with Obama/Biden, especially when both sides start
> playing dirty.

I could be wrong, but Romney doesn't seem to fit for me. He's a Mormon,
which wouldn't make a difference to me, but to evangelicals? It's a big
part of the Republican base, a part of the base that is lukewarm on
McCain as it is.
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On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 06:45:13 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall,
Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
<nospamplease.TakeThisOut@here.com> wrote:

>Eisboch wrote:
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080823/ap_on_el_pr/veepstakes_analysis;_y...AjIrvBr
>>
>> or
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/5lsqcz
>>
>>
>>
>I think says it all:
>
>
>After all, Biden is anything but a change agent, having been in office
>longer than half of all Americans have been alive. Longer than McCain.
>
>And he talks too much.
>
>On the same day he announced his second bid for the presidency, Biden
>found himself explaining why he had described Obama as "clean."
>
>And there's the 2007 ABC interview in which Biden said he would stand by
>an earlier statement that Obama was not ready to serve as president.
>
>It seems Obama is worried that some voters are starting to agree.

Here's a short little article with a great last line:

"Why is it this way round: why isn't the able, experienced, reassuring guy
the one at the top of the ticket?"


http://tinyurl.com/6cko88
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John H. wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 06:45:13 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall,
> Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
> <nospamplease.DeleteThis@here.com> wrote:
>
>> Eisboch wrote:
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080823/ap_on_el_pr/veepstakes_analysis;_y...AjIrvBr
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/5lsqcz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I think says it all:
>>
>>
>> After all, Biden is anything but a change agent, having been in office
>> longer than half of all Americans have been alive. Longer than McCain.
>>
>> And he talks too much.
>>
>> On the same day he announced his second bid for the presidency, Biden
>> found himself explaining why he had described Obama as "clean."
>>
>> And there's the 2007 ABC interview in which Biden said he would stand by
>> an earlier statement that Obama was not ready to serve as president.
>>
>> It seems Obama is worried that some voters are starting to agree.
>
> Here's a short little article with a great last line:
>
> "Why is it this way round: why isn't the able, experienced, reassuring guy
> the one at the top of the ticket?"
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6cko88

LOL, Obama is beginning to look like all the other Dem tickets,
stumbling all over himself and letting a sure thing get away.

With all of the problems the Rep's have had in the last few years, it
looks like they will blow this one too. I NEVER would have guessed that
was possible.
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"hk" <payer33859.RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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> Eisboch wrote:
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080823/ap_on_el_pr/veepstakes_analysis;_y...AjIrvBr
>>
>> or
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/5lsqcz
>>
>>
>>
>
> Yawn.


Now, both Bill Clinton and Joe Biden will be giving speeches at the
convention.

Time for another DVR hard drive upgrade.

Eisboch
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Eisboch wrote:
> "hk" <payer33859 DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
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>> Eisboch wrote:
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080823/ap_on_el_pr/veepstakes_analysis;_y...AjIrvBr
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/5lsqcz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Yawn.
>
>
> Now, both Bill Clinton and Joe Biden will be giving speeches at the
> convention.
>
> Time for another DVR hard drive upgrade.
>
> Eisboch
>
>

I wonder if the DNC will start to play music (as the do at the Oscars)
if they go beyond their allotted time slot.
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"Eisboch" <rce DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "hk" <payer33859 DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
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>> Eisboch wrote:
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080823/ap_on_el_pr/veepstakes_analysis;_y...AjIrvBr
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/5lsqcz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Yawn.
>
>
> Now, both Bill Clinton and Joe Biden will be giving speeches at the
> convention.
>
> Time for another DVR hard drive upgrade.
>
> Eisboch
>


I was just thinking .... if McCain goes with Romney, it will be an
interesting match up with Obama/Biden, especially when both sides start
playing dirty.

Obama and Romney are more alike .... somewhat reserved and polite in their
exchanges. Both find it somewhat uncomfortable to engage in close quarter,
confrontational attacks.

It will be left to McCain versus Biden in the game of making viscous,
personal attacks. Both are evenly matched, with Biden perhaps having a
slight advantage in the capability of pure, unadulterated nastiness.

Eisboch
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On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 06:42:27 -0500, thunder RemoveThis @TAKEOUTgti.net wrote:

>
>> LOL, Obama is beginning to look like all the other Dem tickets,
>> stumbling all over himself and letting a sure thing get away.
>>
>> With all of the problems the Rep's have had in the last few years, it
>> looks like they will blow this one too. I NEVER would have guessed that
>> was possible.
>
>Don't go wetting yourself just yet. The campaign is just starting, and a
>lot can and will happen. At this time in 1988, Dukakis was up by 17
>points. Funny, but I don't remember a President Dukakis.

Ah, Dukakis also chose a well known beltway insider as a running mate. I
wonder if Biden will be able to best this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-7gpgXNWYI
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thunder.TakeThisOut@TAKEOUTgti.net wrote:
>> LOL, Obama is beginning to look like all the other Dem tickets,
>> stumbling all over himself and letting a sure thing get away.
>>
>> With all of the problems the Rep's have had in the last few years, it
>> looks like they will blow this one too. I NEVER would have guessed that
>> was possible.
>
> Don't go wetting yourself just yet. The campaign is just starting, and a
> lot can and will happen. At this time in 1988, Dukakis was up by 17
> points. Funny, but I don't remember a President Dukakis.

That is exactly what I was saying. The Dem's have a long and infamous
history of blowing the lead in presidential campaigns. Obama doesn't
want to disappoint anyone and screw up their track record.
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On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 06:42:27 -0500, thunder RemoveThis @TAKEOUTgti.net wrote:

>
>> LOL, Obama is beginning to look like all the other Dem tickets,
>> stumbling all over himself and letting a sure thing get away.
>>
>> With all of the problems the Rep's have had in the last few years, it
>> looks like they will blow this one too. I NEVER would have guessed that
>> was possible.
>
>Don't go wetting yourself just yet. The campaign is just starting, and a
>lot can and will happen. At this time in 1988, Dukakis was up by 17
>points. Funny, but I don't remember a President Dukakis.

Let's face it - President Dukakis wasn't going to happen anyway.

Obama reminds me a lot of Dukakis actually - same prevarication, same
intellectual approach to questions never giving a straight answer -
same lack of practical experience in the real world.

It's going to be a close race - maybe. I've been reading the
breakouts on the polls and Obama is running way behind in some key
demographics - even among union members which you would think is a
strong point.

Can't tell now - need to get through the conventions and get some
solid data sets.
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On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:03:29 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
<email.DeleteThis@swsportsremove.org> wrote:

>On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 06:42:27 -0500, thunder.DeleteThis@TAKEOUTgti.net wrote:
>
>>
>>> LOL, Obama is beginning to look like all the other Dem tickets,
>>> stumbling all over himself and letting a sure thing get away.
>>>
>>> With all of the problems the Rep's have had in the last few years, it
>>> looks like they will blow this one too. I NEVER would have guessed that
>>> was possible.
>>
>>Don't go wetting yourself just yet. The campaign is just starting, and a
>>lot can and will happen. At this time in 1988, Dukakis was up by 17
>>points. Funny, but I don't remember a President Dukakis.
>
>Let's face it - President Dukakis wasn't going to happen anyway.
>
>Obama reminds me a lot of Dukakis actually - same prevarication, same
>intellectual approach to questions never giving a straight answer -
>same lack of practical experience in the real world.
>
>It's going to be a close race - maybe. I've been reading the
>breakouts on the polls and Obama is running way behind in some key
>demographics - even among union members which you would think is a
>strong point.
>
>Can't tell now - need to get through the conventions and get some
>solid data sets.

Go ahead and call it. You did pretty well on gas prices, although another
fifty cent decline wouldn't bother me much.
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On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 07:44:47 -0400, "Eisboch" <rce.TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote:

>
>"Eisboch" <rce.TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>> "hk" <payer33859.TakeThisOut@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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>>> Eisboch wrote:
>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080823/ap_on_el_pr/veepstakes_analysis;_y...AjIrvBr
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/5lsqcz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yawn.
>>
>>
>> Now, both Bill Clinton and Joe Biden will be giving speeches at the
>> convention.
>>
>> Time for another DVR hard drive upgrade.
>
>I was just thinking .... if McCain goes with Romney, it will be an
>interesting match up with Obama/Biden, especially when both sides start
>playing dirty.
>
>Obama and Romney are more alike .... somewhat reserved and polite in their
>exchanges. Both find it somewhat uncomfortable to engage in close quarter,
>confrontational attacks.
>
>It will be left to McCain versus Biden in the game of making viscous,
>personal attacks. Both are evenly matched, with Biden perhaps having a
>slight advantage in the capability of pure, unadulterated nastiness.

Under that scenario, McCain and Biden squaring off would only
emphasize Obama's weakness.

Which (heh - this is a good one) would mean that Biden is Obama's
Cheney. :>)

Which, now that I think about it, makes a lot of sense.
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