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Since: Mar 01, 2004 Posts: 15
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:29 pm
Post subject: Honda generator and small house freezer Archived from groups: can>rec>boating (more info?)
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Some years ago, tired of looking at overpriced boat freezers, we bought
a plain old GE chest type 5 cu ft household freezer for $240. It has
sat out in the weather, working steadily, for at least a decade.
When we take our long vacation, we prefer to anchor. The freezer just
gets unpowered during that time, and we avoid opening it. That works
pretty well. The next day we are up and going and the cruise generator
recharges the battery bank we've had on inverter and powers the freezer.
But if we stay more than a day, or have a few days of short trips
between anchorages, we begin to lose ground and the freezer warms up. (I
can run it off the inverter, but haven't that much spare power.)
SO: We are looking at the little Honda EU1000iA2, which has come highly
recommended. The seller expressed concern about the freezer's starting
amperage. A guy at the appliance store, not able to obtain exact
figures on this old freezer, said that generally household reefers and
freezers (belt driven) take 800 W to start and 400 W to run. I've heard
those same figures from others. The Honda literature says "2200 W to
start and 700 W to run".
Is there anyone on this net who has actually *used* a small generator,
this size, with a small freezer? I'd certainly welcome a word of
reassurance. >> Stay informed about: Honda generator and small house freezer |
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Since: Mar 05, 2004 Posts: 184
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:30 pm
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Chuck Bollinger wrote:
> Some years ago, tired of looking at overpriced boat freezers, we bought
> a plain old GE chest type 5 cu ft household freezer for $240. It has
> sat out in the weather, working steadily, for at least a decade.
>
> When we take our long vacation, we prefer to anchor. The freezer just
> gets unpowered during that time, and we avoid opening it. That works
> pretty well. The next day we are up and going and the cruise generator
> recharges the battery bank we've had on inverter and powers the freezer.
>
> But if we stay more than a day, or have a few days of short trips
> between anchorages, we begin to lose ground and the freezer warms up. (I
> can run it off the inverter, but haven't that much spare power.)
>
> SO: We are looking at the little Honda EU1000iA2, which has come highly
> recommended. The seller expressed concern about the freezer's starting
> amperage. A guy at the appliance store, not able to obtain exact
> figures on this old freezer, said that generally household reefers and
> freezers (belt driven) take 800 W to start and 400 W to run. I've heard
> those same figures from others. The Honda literature says "2200 W to
> start and 700 W to run".
>
> Is there anyone on this net who has actually *used* a small generator,
> this size, with a small freezer? I'd certainly welcome a word of
> reassurance.
>
One answer is to use the genny to sustain the freezer, but include a
battery and invertor for starting surges and normal operation. I
know, it's inefficient, but the alternative is a bigger honking
genny with a big flywheel and more idle inefficiency. Whaddaya
gonna do?
Ice is a buck a bag or so. How long do you have to go to recoup
your losses, what with capital outlay, loss of income, finance
charges and fuel cost? Could you recoup a bit by selling the excess
ice you might make?
There are coolers which use "soft start" technology, requiring less
surge to get going.
There are coolers made to operate from 12v.
Terry K >> Stay informed about: Honda generator and small house freezer |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:26 am
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Chuck Bollinger wrote:
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> But if we stay more than a day, or have a few days of short trips
> between anchorages, we begin to lose ground and the freezer warms up. (I
> can run it off the inverter, but haven't that much spare power.)
>
How about adding to the battery bank or increase the alt's size?
How about these solar panels they sell a Can Tire to recharge at anchor?
All cheaper than a genny.
Jean Dufour
Montreal Qc >> Stay informed about: Honda generator and small house freezer |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:22 pm
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I have a 2000W Honda generator that we use for winter power failures
It can run a large refrigerator/freezer, the sump pump, the furnace some
lights and the TV
I believe the unit you are looking at will run the freezer
Dan
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"Chuck Bollinger" <chuckb RemoveThis @eskimo.com> wrote in message
news:dcmb7e$f2h$1@eskinews.eskimo.com...
> Some years ago, tired of looking at overpriced boat freezers, we bought a
> plain old GE chest type 5 cu ft household freezer for $240. It has sat
> out in the weather, working steadily, for at least a decade.
>
> When we take our long vacation, we prefer to anchor. The freezer just
> gets unpowered during that time, and we avoid opening it. That works
> pretty well. The next day we are up and going and the cruise generator
> recharges the battery bank we've had on inverter and powers the freezer.
>
> But if we stay more than a day, or have a few days of short trips between
> anchorages, we begin to lose ground and the freezer warms up. (I can run
> it off the inverter, but haven't that much spare power.)
>
> SO: We are looking at the little Honda EU1000iA2, which has come highly
> recommended. The seller expressed concern about the freezer's starting
> amperage. A guy at the appliance store, not able to obtain exact figures
> on this old freezer, said that generally household reefers and freezers
> (belt driven) take 800 W to start and 400 W to run. I've heard those same
> figures from others. The Honda literature says "2200 W to start and 700 W
> to run".
>
> Is there anyone on this net who has actually *used* a small generator,
> this size, with a small freezer? I'd certainly welcome a word of
> reassurance.
> >> Stay informed about: Honda generator and small house freezer |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:08 pm
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Thank you all for your answers. I made the question moot yesterday when
I went to my local hardware store and, on the front sidewalk, they were
selling a Coleman Maxa 3000 for $299 (US). It's bigger, of course, but
ok for our trawler, and no question it will do the job.
Best wishes,
Chuck
Chuck Bollinger wrote:
> Some years ago, tired of looking at overpriced boat freezers, we bought
> a plain old GE chest type 5 cu ft household freezer for $240. It has
> sat out in the weather, working steadily, for at least a decade.
>
> When we take our long vacation, we prefer to anchor. The freezer just
> gets unpowered during that time, and we avoid opening it. That works
> pretty well. The next day we are up and going and the cruise generator
> recharges the battery bank we've had on inverter and powers the freezer.
>
> But if we stay more than a day, or have a few days of short trips
> between anchorages, we begin to lose ground and the freezer warms up. (I
> can run it off the inverter, but haven't that much spare power.)
>
> SO: We are looking at the little Honda EU1000iA2, which has come highly
> recommended. The seller expressed concern about the freezer's starting
> amperage. A guy at the appliance store, not able to obtain exact
> figures on this old freezer, said that generally household reefers and
> freezers (belt driven) take 800 W to start and 400 W to run. I've heard
> those same figures from others. The Honda literature says "2200 W to
> start and 700 W to run".
>
> Is there anyone on this net who has actually *used* a small generator,
> this size, with a small freezer? I'd certainly welcome a word of
> reassurance.
> >> Stay informed about: Honda generator and small house freezer |
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Since: Sep 04, 2003 Posts: 44
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:25 pm
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Hi Chuck,
I hope you are alone in the anchorage when you fire that puppy up cuz they can really bark. I have a Yamaha 1000 which
is very similar to the Honda and they are extremely quiet.
Kevin
Chuck Bollinger wrote:
> Thank you all for your answers. I made the question moot yesterday when
> I went to my local hardware store and, on the front sidewalk, they were
> selling a Coleman Maxa 3000 for $299 (US). It's bigger, of course, but
> ok for our trawler, and no question it will do the job.
>
> Best wishes,
> Chuck
>
>
>
> Chuck Bollinger wrote:
>
>> Some years ago, tired of looking at overpriced boat freezers, we
>> bought a plain old GE chest type 5 cu ft household freezer for $240.
>> It has sat out in the weather, working steadily, for at least a decade.
>>
>> When we take our long vacation, we prefer to anchor. The freezer just
>> gets unpowered during that time, and we avoid opening it. That works
>> pretty well. The next day we are up and going and the cruise
>> generator recharges the battery bank we've had on inverter and powers
>> the freezer.
>>
>> But if we stay more than a day, or have a few days of short trips
>> between anchorages, we begin to lose ground and the freezer warms up.
>> (I can run it off the inverter, but haven't that much spare power.)
>>
>> SO: We are looking at the little Honda EU1000iA2, which has come
>> highly recommended. The seller expressed concern about the freezer's
>> starting amperage. A guy at the appliance store, not able to obtain
>> exact figures on this old freezer, said that generally household
>> reefers and freezers (belt driven) take 800 W to start and 400 W to
>> run. I've heard those same figures from others. The Honda literature
>> says "2200 W to start and 700 W to run".
>>
>> Is there anyone on this net who has actually *used* a small generator,
>> this size, with a small freezer? I'd certainly welcome a word of
>> reassurance.
>>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:32 pm
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Kevin & Debbie wrote:
> Hi Chuck,
> I hope you are alone in the anchorage when you fire that puppy up cuz
> they can really bark. I have a Yamaha 1000 which is very similar to the
> Honda and they are extremely quiet.
> Kevin
Well we're very concerned about that. It is a bit louder than the
little Hondas, but we are going to bed it very well to deprive it of a
sounding board, and I am going to see about getting an oversize muffler.
In any case, we will operate it only for about an hour in the middle of
the day - never early in the morning or at night. If it appears that it
needs more, we'll enclose it. We'll have to see how it acts and respond
accordingly.
As for being alone, we prefer anchoring alone anyway. That's what a
boat is for, in our opinion: getting away from things and people.
Chuck
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> Chuck Bollinger wrote:
>
>> Thank you all for your answers. I made the question moot yesterday
>> when I went to my local hardware store and, on the front sidewalk,
>> they were selling a Coleman Maxa 3000 for $299 (US). It's bigger, of
>> course, but ok for our trawler, and no question it will do the job.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck Bollinger wrote:
>>
>>> Some years ago, tired of looking at overpriced boat freezers, we
>>> bought a plain old GE chest type 5 cu ft household freezer for $240.
>>> It has sat out in the weather, working steadily, for at least a decade.
>>>
>>> When we take our long vacation, we prefer to anchor. The freezer
>>> just gets unpowered during that time, and we avoid opening it. That
>>> works pretty well. The next day we are up and going and the cruise
>>> generator recharges the battery bank we've had on inverter and powers
>>> the freezer.
>>>
>>> But if we stay more than a day, or have a few days of short trips
>>> between anchorages, we begin to lose ground and the freezer warms up.
>>> (I can run it off the inverter, but haven't that much spare power.)
>>>
>>> SO: We are looking at the little Honda EU1000iA2, which has come
>>> highly recommended. The seller expressed concern about the freezer's
>>> starting amperage. A guy at the appliance store, not able to obtain
>>> exact figures on this old freezer, said that generally household
>>> reefers and freezers (belt driven) take 800 W to start and 400 W to
>>> run. I've heard those same figures from others. The Honda
>>> literature says "2200 W to start and 700 W to run".
>>>
>>> Is there anyone on this net who has actually *used* a small
>>> generator, this size, with a small freezer? I'd certainly welcome a
>>> word of reassurance.
>>>
>>
> >> Stay informed about: Honda generator and small house freezer |
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