Help me buy paddling clothes?

"Oci-One Kanubi" wrote:

>I like shorts and short-sleeve button-front shirts from Columbia

You don't like full brim hats? Instead you like ball
style?

I guess what I need is very specific advise on what
shorts and hat to buy
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"Oci-One Kanubi" wrote:

>I also always carry a drybag that contains a pair of polypro-like
>longjohns, a fleece sweater, and a pair of rain pants. Pull all that
>on over my shorts, along with the paddling jacket, and I can stand a
>drop from 80 to 50 degrees in air temperature, or warm myself after
>capsizing from 65 degree air into 50 degree water.

Good idea!

advice on what brand dry bag and what size to buy as a
first one?
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"Oci-One Kanubi" wrote in


> Convertible pants are good, as are the convertible shirts (roll-up long
> sleeves) that you can buy in the same kind of store that sells the
> pants -- purveyors of camping and trekking gear, typically. Be sure
> they are of synthetic material.
>
> I like shorts and short-sleeve button-front shirts from Columbia
> Sportswear and Ex Officio, usually available in the same stores or in
> stores that cater to fly-fishermen. These are of quick-drying
> synthetic material and I wear 'em with socks and underwear of a similar
> material.

Several mail order places carry synthetic shirts like this. I actually
prefer the long sleeves for UV protection. They're often labeled as
"trekking shirts". Sierra Trading Post is a good source for these. LL
Bean, NRS, Cabelas, or one of many other outdoor gear mailing order internet
sites have them as well.
>
> I wear Converse Chuck Taylor's All Stars in my whitewater canoe, but
> I'm a decided minority on the river in that respect.
>
> I always carry a paddling jacket in case of rain or other unexpected
> chill, and if I'm paddling some stream so tame that I won't be wearing
> a helmet, I wear a long-billed fly-fisherman's baseball-style cap --
> also of a synthetic material, and with a bill stiffened by something
> other than cardboard, so I can dip a capfull of river water to cool my
> head, without ruining the cap.

A few years ago I picked up a baseball style cap at Florida Bay Outfitters
that was made of a synthetic material and had a neoprene bill. It's nice
having a cap that'll float if you want to cool off by doing a couple of
rolls.
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John Fereira wrote:

>
>Several mail order places carry synthetic shirts like this. I actually
>prefer the long sleeves for UV protection.

yeah I want long sleeve as I'm fair complected

Or convertible sleeve where you can zip or roll sleeves
up
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Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:

>Also I'd recommend a set of neoprene boots... I can't imagine the Mississippi
>being all that clean... (probably cleaner than the Chicago though).

No...it's probably NOT very clean

Plus muddy as hell

So you think neoprene boots better than open toe
sandals like Chaco or Teva for such muddy conditions?
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I do not advocate sandals in boats that incorporate a center
support.....this would run the length of the front cockpit to the tip, where
the paddler has one leg on each side of the support. These often have a
cutout where your hells could actually touch to facilitate more foot room. A
sandal's heel can become snagged in the cutout and prevent a needed exit.
Mostly in WW boats, but I'm sure other craft have this feature as well. IF
the boat has a totally open cockpit, no problem, sandals are fine.


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> "Grip" wrote:
>
> >Assuming you are thinking ONLY of warm weather summer paddling in a
> >recreational boat, touring yak, or canoe: buy a good PFD (life jacket)
> >first, and KEEP IT ON!
>
> Oh yeah...will do on the PFD!!
>
>
> So you do NOT advocate sandals such as Chacos?
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Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:

>I don't go in rivers around here without them... neoprene boots and gloves
>(gloves vary on how truely messy it is and if you think your going to be
>poking around)... the last thing you want to do is scrape a hand or toe on
>something, cut it and let that water in...

Ooooo... yes you are right

Didn't think abt dirty river water getting into cuts on
foot..... i.e. using open sandals that is
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"Oci-One Kanubi" wrote in message

>
snip...


> I wear Converse Chuck Taylor's All Stars in my whitewater
> canoe, but
> I'm a decided minority on the river in that respect.



Richard,

I always wore converse all-stars in the 70s. They really gripped
wet rocks and were still good for portages. When the last pair
finally wore out and it was time to replace them, the soles were
not the same material, it was much harder, and were decidedly
slippier on wet rocks. I haven't looked for them since the early
80s, so are the soles somewhat 'softer' again?




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Oci-One Kanubi wrote:
>
> I cannot really compare. But the current soles are a little more
> slippery than I would like. I wear them for the firm sole, since I
> paddle kneeling with my toes pointed straight down: the sole (attached
> to the high tops lashed around the ankle) supports the weight of the
> foot and lower leg, rather than the toes.

The 5.10 stealth rubber soles are better than old Converse soles
for traction on a wide variety of surfaces.

Felt is better on algae-covered rock, vibram is better on dry rock,
but I don't think anything beats stealth rubber for sand-covered surfaces,
both wet and dry. Avoid wearing them at home, because they scuff floors
with black skidmarks. They also wear out fast on pavement.

I'm not a gearhead, but I believe stealth rubber soles are available
on many products. I wear Chaco sandals with 5.10 (dot pattern) soles.
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Ok..let me pose this question to the group

I don't have a knife...any kind of knife

What exact brand/model of knife should I buy for
general use in kayak on river? To cut myself lose in a
tangle (emergency)..... to cut food...etc
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Any kind of cheap stainless folder with a built on clip will suffice, unless
you want to attach it your PFD, then look at Gerber, there are
others...google river knife...I'm too lazy


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> Ok..let me pose this question to the group
>
> I don't have a knife...any kind of knife
>
> What exact brand/model of knife should I buy for
> general use in kayak on river? To cut myself lose in a
> tangle (emergency)..... to cut food...etc
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Wilko wrote:

>
>Whenever you use throwlines, make sure to carry paramedic's shears or a
>sharp knife as well!

Ok but where to buy such a thing?

I'm going to REI this weekend so will get the Gerber
shortly river knife as well
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me RemoveThis @privacy.net wrote:
> Wilko wrote:
> >
> >Whenever you use throwlines, make sure to carry paramedic's shears or a
> >sharp knife as well!
>
> Ok but where to buy such a thing?
>
> I'm going to REI this weekend so will get the Gerber shortly river knife as well

I'm not a metallurgist, but I married a metallurgist's daughter, and
I've found out a little about metals (actually, those three facts have
nothing to do with each other).

Anyhow, I've learned that stainless steel does not mean the same as
rustproof, especially if you paddle in salt water. The most rustproof
knives have lots of chromium (the shiny stuff) in the layup, um, alloy.
The sharpest knives have lots of carbon in the alloy.

So, high carbon knives are easy to make sharp, but rust. High chromium
knives are a pain to sharpen, but don't rust as fast. YMMV

1. Pay money. 2. Take choice.

As I think about it, my mother-in-law sometimes does pottery, but I
know nothing at all about ceramic (e.g., Boker) knives.

Steve
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