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Since: Aug 09, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:03 pm
Post subject: Hardware Store Epoxy (in a tube)
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You have all seen them, a double barreled syringe for small repair jobs.
I've used them myself around the shop, rather than mess with the pumps, etc.
for simple jobs.
I'm putting together a fiberglass repair kit to keep on the boat while
cruising. Just for the small crack or ding or broken widget.
Not sure how good this stuff really is, compared to West System,etc.
Can I mix it with the fillers, etc.?, will it bond to polyester lay-up for
small hull repairs. I have boxes and bags of scrap cloth, etc. and more
fillers than I will ever use.
The biggest advantage, I see, is convenience and cost. ACE Hardware has
store brand for a couple bucks a tube.
I have also noticed that these tubes seem to survive for several years, even
after they have been opened. I use one the other day that was at least 5-6
years old and it still kicked over.
Thoughts??
Steve
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:05 am
Post subject: Re: Hardware Store Epoxy (in a tube) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:58 am
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Steve wrote:
> You have all seen them, a double barreled syringe for small repair jobs.
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> I've used them myself around the shop, rather than mess with the pumps, etc.
> for simple jobs.
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> I'm putting together a fiberglass repair kit to keep on the boat while
> cruising. Just for the small crack or ding or broken widget.
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> Not sure how good this stuff really is, compared to West System,etc.
Dunno, I've never done a direct comparison, testing the two against each
other. I have used both & prefer West, but the stuff in 2 parallel
syringes does a good job even if several years old (as you noted). Once
I used it for overnight repair of a spinnaker sheet block fitting
(actually, the deck around the fitting) and it was strong enough 14
hours later to race in 20 knot winds. Years later that repair was still
sound & had been painted over & all but forgotten.
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> Can I mix it with the fillers, etc.?,
Yes
> ... will it bond to polyester lay-up for
> small hull repairs.
Yes... although it should be noted that there are several things you can
& should do to improve the bond.
The doubt that I would have is about quantity, I tend to find I have
only about 2/3 the epoxy on hand that I need for any given job... maybe
I have a habit of letting jobs expand too much.
Fresh Breezes- Doug King >> Stay informed about: Hardware Store Epoxy (in a tube) |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:04 am
Post subject: Re: Hardware Store Epoxy (in a tube) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Steve,
You have a problen with the tubes in that you are stuck (no pun intended
) with the filler that is there and no chance to use cloth.
Stop by BoatWest and look up 382036 with is a six-pack of little
packages. Throw that in a box with pill bottles (labeled) of fillers
and a sandwich bag of assorted cloth patches. Add some clean yogurt
cups, stir sticks and at least three gloves.
You are ready for anything that can be repaired underway.
Matt Colie A.Sloop "Bonne Ide'e"
Lifelong Waterman, Licensed Mariner and Pathological Sailor
Steve wrote:
> You have all seen them, a double barreled syringe for small repair jobs.
>
> I've used them myself around the shop, rather than mess with the pumps, etc.
> for simple jobs.
>
> I'm putting together a fiberglass repair kit to keep on the boat while
> cruising. Just for the small crack or ding or broken widget.
>
> Not sure how good this stuff really is, compared to West System,etc.
>
> Can I mix it with the fillers, etc.?, will it bond to polyester lay-up for
> small hull repairs. I have boxes and bags of scrap cloth, etc. and more
> fillers than I will ever use.
>
> The biggest advantage, I see, is convenience and cost. ACE Hardware has
> store brand for a couple bucks a tube.
>
> I have also noticed that these tubes seem to survive for several years, even
> after they have been opened. I use one the other day that was at least 5-6
> years old and it still kicked over.
>
> Thoughts??
>
> Steve
> s/v Good Intentions
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Hardware Store Epoxy (in a tube) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Steve" wrote:
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>You have all seen them, a double barreled syringe for small repair jobs.
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>I've used them myself around the shop, rather than mess with the pumps, etc.
>for simple jobs.
>
>I'm putting together a fiberglass repair kit to keep on the boat while
>cruising. Just for the small crack or ding or broken widget.
>
>Not sure how good this stuff really is, compared to West System,etc.
>
>Can I mix it with the fillers, etc.?, will it bond to polyester lay-up for
>small hull repairs. I have boxes and bags of scrap cloth, etc. and more
>fillers than I will ever use.
>
>The biggest advantage, I see, is convenience and cost. ACE Hardware has
>store brand for a couple bucks a tube.
>
>I have also noticed that these tubes seem to survive for several years, even
>after they have been opened. I use one the other day that was at least 5-6
>years old and it still kicked over.
Something to think about.
Glass has a shelf life.
Would probably get 2-3 yards of 17 oz double bias glass cut into 36"x50"
pieces that could be individually bagged pieces, preferably vacuum bagged.
Add a 50 yard roll of 6" "boat tape" glass.
Get a 1 gallon kit of laminating epoxy, a box of surgical gloves, some
mixing sticks, a sleeve of 2 oz cups from the restaurant supply house
and some 2" chip brushes.
Pack the whole thing in a plastic box and you are good to go.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:36 pm
Post subject: Re: Hardware Store Epoxy (in a tube) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hardware store epoxy is all I use, but not in syringes, in "toothpaste
tubes" instead. I tried the syringes once and found them too stiff, hard
to work, and wastefull.
I use epoxy strictly for small sealing and repair jobs on the small
plywood boats I've built, when nothing cheaper will do.
I've mixed it with talc (baby powder) and sanding dust for fillers. Works
fine.
I have a package in front of me now. It's called LePage regular epxoy
glue, 2 x 37ml tubes in a bubble pack.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:08 am
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:19 am
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System 3 has a kit with replaceable tubes that allows you to squeeze a
measured amount into any small repair. It has a little more waste than you
may have with he hardware kits but it is good stuff. I have used the
hardware kits with success on non boat stuff.
Brian >> Stay informed about: Hardware Store Epoxy (in a tube) |
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