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Dave Manby

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:33 pm
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Check this one out

http://www.panoramas.dk/fullscreen3/f8.html
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Details of the Coruh river and my book "Many Rivers To Run" at
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:01 pm
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"Dave Manby" <dave RemoveThis @dmanby.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > Check this one out
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.panoramas.dk/fullscreen3/f8.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.panoramas.dk/fullscreen3/f8.html</font</a>>
 > --
 > Dave Manby
 > Details of the Coruh river and my book "Many Rivers To Run" at
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.dmanby.demon.co.uk</font" target="_blank">http://www.dmanby.demon.co.uk</font</a>>
 >

Aww, Dave, you're breaking my heart!! I want that link to move in 3D down
the canyon, up that side wall, across the shelf, and on up the next
level....

Also, check out <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.leesferry.com/pans/boat.htm" target="_blank">http://www.leesferry.com/pans/boat.htm</a>

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Jim Michaud1

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:11 am
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That's exactly what I'll be doing this coming weekend. I'll be getting the
full 3-D effect as I paddle my canoe through the Grand Canyon for the next
eighteen days. Yee-ahh!

Jim



| Aww, Dave, you're breaking my heart!! I want that link to move in 3D down
| the canyon, up that side wall, across the shelf, and on up the next
| level....
|
| Also, check out http://www.leesferry.com/pans/boat.htm
|
| --riverman
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|
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:30 pm
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Sjeez Jim, aren't you getting bored of that same old Canyon now that
you've seen it all so often? Wink

Wilko

Jim Michaud wrote:

 > That's exactly what I'll be doing this coming weekend. I'll be getting the
 > full 3-D effect as I paddle my canoe through the Grand Canyon for the next
 > eighteen days. Yee-ahh!
 >
 > Jim
 >
 >
 >
 > | Aww, Dave, you're breaking my heart!! I want that link to move in 3D down
 > | the canyon, up that side wall, across the shelf, and on up the next
 > | level....
 > |
<font color=purple> > | Also, check out <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.leesferry.com/pans/boat.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.leesferry.com/pans/boat.htm</font</a>>
 > |
 > | --riverman
 > |
 > |
 >
 >

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Leslie

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:17 am
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I ran it in my canoe at the end of August ... what a blast! I didn't know
you could actually get rollercoaster stomach in a canoe -- last wave in
Hermit! Had some interesting swims too -- that's the 4the dimension! I'm
actually just editing pictures and video right now. What are you paddling?

Leslie



"Jim Michaud" <jim_mic(at)msn.com> wrote in message
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 > That's exactly what I'll be doing this coming weekend. I'll be getting
the
 > full 3-D effect as I paddle my canoe through the Grand Canyon for the next
 > eighteen days. Yee-ahh!
 >
 > Jim
 >
 >
 >
 > | Aww, Dave, you're breaking my heart!! I want that link to move in 3D
down
 > | the canyon, up that side wall, across the shelf, and on up the next
 > | level....
 > |
<font color=purple> > | Also, check out <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.leesferry.com/pans/boat.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.leesferry.com/pans/boat.htm</font</a>>
 > |
 > | --riverman
 > |
 > |
 >
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Bill Tuthill2

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 3:23 pm
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Leslie <ladutton.DeleteThis@ica.net> wrote:
 > I ran it in my canoe at the end of August ... what a blast! I didn't know
 > you could actually get rollercoaster stomach in a canoe -- last wave in
 > Hermit! Had some interesting swims too -- that's the 4the dimension! I'm
 > actually just editing pictures and video right now. What are you paddling?

Did you actually run Lava in your canoe?

A friend of mine had a very deep swim there, and afterward
her lungs were never the same.

I usually paddle either an inflatable kayak (IK) or row a raft
(if you're asking in general). Some of my friends IKed the Canyon
with no swims, but I think they sneaked Lava.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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riverman

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 7:20 am
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"Bill Tuthill" <can RemoveThis @spam.co> wrote in message
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 > Leslie <ladutton RemoveThis @ica.net> wrote:
  >> I ran it in my canoe at the end of August ... what a blast! I didn't know
  >> you could actually get rollercoaster stomach in a canoe -- last wave in
  >> Hermit! Had some interesting swims too -- that's the 4the dimension!
  >> I'm
  >> actually just editing pictures and video right now. What are you
  >> paddling?
 >
 > Did you actually run Lava in your canoe?
 >
 > A friend of mine had a very deep swim there, and afterward
 > her lungs were never the same.
 >
 > I usually paddle either an inflatable kayak (IK) or row a raft
 > (if you're asking in general). Some of my friends IKed the Canyon
 > with no swims, but I think they sneaked Lava.
 >

What's the current open boat route through Lava? I haven't been down since
before the big washouts in (when was the first one which Drifter was there
for; 1994?) Before that, there was the Bubble Line run (through the V Wave)
where my friend Garret got postage stamped on the black rock, swam from his
OC, and actually went under the rock through a tunnel in the riverbed
boulders that had never had been known before (or searched out since, I
believe). After the first debris flow, I believe the main run was on the
left, and an open boater could pick a class 3+ (out of 6) line through the
pourovers and rocks. Since then, I believe the current has scoured out the
left side again making the left run too shallow, and that Lava is again
beginning to look like itsoldself, with the low-water run through the Vwave,
the high water run down the center-left side skirting the ledgehole.

But I could be wrong about all this...I was always looking at it with a
rafter's eye. My Open Boaters' eye had me washed ashore in pieces many miles
upstream already. Anyone got historical route details for open boats?

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Byron Funnell

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:01 am
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Anyone got historical route details for open boats?
 >
 > --riverman
 >
 >

I too am interested in any good open boat information for the Grand Canyon
in general. I will be the only open boat on a trip in March. Could be
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Dave Manby

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:13 pm
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Anywhere you like at Crystal it has gone and is not a problem anymore.
I rowed my raft through the middle last Oct just for the hell of it


In message <BDA3BFAD.D766%pezeshki@wsu.edu>, Charles Pezeshki
<pezeshki RemoveThis @wsu.edu> writes
 >in article 2u728lF27dlpcU1 RemoveThis @uni-berlin.de, riverman at nospam RemoveThis @sorry.com wrote
 >on 10/26/04 3:35 AM:
 >
  >> If you have some free time in Flagstaff, contact Garrett Schniewind at
  >> Canyon Explorations. He's OCed it many times, and can give you lots of
  >> input. In general, though, stay left.
  >>
  >> Left at Crystal (Slate Creek run)
  >> Left at Lava
  >> Left at Hermit, Hance and Grapevine
  >> Left at Badger, Soap Creek
  >> Left at Dubendorff....
  >>
  >> Weird how that happens, eh?
  >>
  >> --riverman
 >
 >Hi Myron,
 >
 >Don't think that left at Crystal advice is very good. Crystal is a very
 >easy boulder garden down the right.
 >
 >Best,
 >
 >Chuck
 >http://www.wildcountry.info
 >

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