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Since: Jul 07, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 4:06 am
Post subject: Foam Car Toppers for Rack?
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| Would those foam car toppers stop a kayak from sliding from
side-to-side (within the ties) when the car turns? Apparently my rack
is slippery in the rain with a kayak that has recently been 303ed....
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Since: Aug 11, 2003
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:25 am
Post subject: Re: Foam Car Toppers for Rack? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Those foam blocks that have grooves for the rack on one side and are
slightly V shaped on the other side are all I've ever used. I've never had a
boat slip. I used a band saw and cut the top of the blocks to match the
contour of the hull to reduce deformation when the straps are pulled snug.
Never saw the need to get saddles or rollers. a 60lb boat ain't nothin' to
lift and I always load from the side. Plus, all that "business" attached to
the rack would get in the way when carrying other things like plywood and
such.
"River Wild" <web_jcman.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Would those foam car toppers stop a kayak from sliding from
> side-to-side (within the ties) when the car turns? Apparently my rack
> is slippery in the rain with a kayak that has recently been 303ed....
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 10:58 pm
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web_jcman.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com (River Wild) writes:
> Would those foam car toppers stop a kayak from sliding from
> side-to-side (within the ties) when the car turns? Apparently my rack
> is slippery in the rain with a kayak that has recently been 303ed....
"Foam car toppers" meaning those big chunks of foam that are
supposed to substitute for a rack? Waste of money, if you've got a
rack already. Try pipe insulation, it'll cost you about a buck.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 5:19 am
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Mary Malmros <malmros RemoveThis @shore.net> wrote in message news:<gp7r83lw3xp.fsf RemoveThis @nautilus.shore.net>...
> web_jcman RemoveThis @yahoo.com (River Wild) writes:
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> > Would those foam car toppers stop a kayak from sliding from
> > side-to-side (within the ties) when the car turns? Apparently my rack
> > is slippery in the rain with a kayak that has recently been 303ed....
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> "Foam car toppers" meaning those big chunks of foam that are
> supposed to substitute for a rack? Waste of money, if you've got a
> rack already. Try pipe insulation, it'll cost you about a buck.
Well, the foam ones you put on the existing rack, anyway. I think
they're $25 or $30. Didn't think of pipe insulation - might be a good
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 9:48 pm
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I found the pipe insulation to be worthless. They compress down to nothing with
a weight on it. I think those foam pads made to fit on a rack are better. The
material has a lot more density.
I originally taped some carpet on my rack and that worked, but my wife
complained that it looked tacky so now, I have saddles.
Lynn
>> Would those foam car toppers stop a kayak from sliding from
>> side-to-side (within the ties) when the car turns? Apparently my rack
>> is slippery in the rain with a kayak that has recently been 303ed....
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>"Foam car toppers" meaning those big chunks of foam that are
>supposed to substitute for a rack? Waste of money, if you've got a
>rack already. Try pipe insulation, it'll cost you about a buck.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Foam Car Toppers for Rack? |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 9:48 pm
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"LLutton" <llutton.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I found the pipe insulation to be worthless. They compress down to nothing
with
> a weight on it. I think those foam pads made to fit on a rack are better.
The
> material has a lot more density.
I agree. The pipe insulation us so so if you are using stackers but do
nothing to stabalize the boat if you are strapping it down horizontally on
it's hull or deck. The foam pads can be recut to match your hull shape
which reduces hull distortion considerably. To clarify, I'm talking about
using the foam blocks on a factory or aftermarket rack. Not strapped to the
roof as a substitute for a rack.
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> I originally taped some carpet on my rack and that worked, but my wife
> complained that it looked tacky so now, I have saddles.
> Lynn
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> >> Would those foam car toppers stop a kayak from sliding from
> >> side-to-side (within the ties) when the car turns? Apparently my rack
> >> is slippery in the rain with a kayak that has recently been 303ed....
> >
> >"Foam car toppers" meaning those big chunks of foam that are
> >supposed to substitute for a rack? Waste of money, if you've got a
> >rack already. Try pipe insulation, it'll cost you about a buck.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 9:18 am
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Dave Van <dave.TakeThisOut@bricknospamgarage.com> wrote:
: "LLutton" <llutton.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
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:> I found the pipe insulation to be worthless. They compress down to nothing
: with
:> a weight on it. I think those foam pads made to fit on a rack are better.
: The
:> material has a lot more density.
: I agree. The pipe insulation us so so if you are using stackers but do
: nothing to stabalize the boat if you are strapping it down horizontally on
: it's hull or deck. The foam pads can be recut to match your hull shape
: which reduces hull distortion considerably. To clarify, I'm talking about
: using the foam blocks on a factory or aftermarket rack. Not strapped to the
: roof as a substitute for a rack.
Well, first, I'll say I haven't tried this idea, so your milage may vary...
(I have saddles), but, if I was going to try again on a new rack, I think
i'd try 2 pairs of u-bolts from Home Depot, Menards, Ace or <insert hardware
store name here> over a small chunk of pipe insulation (avoid scratching
rack and car).
If you can put one on each side of the boat and tighten that so they don't
move, then you have something to keep the boat from slipping side to side so
long as the boat is tight to the rack.
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John Nelson
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 9:34 am
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On 17 Aug 2003 18:48:05 GMT, llutton DeleteThis @aol.com (LLutton) wrote:
>I found the pipe insulation to be worthless. They compress down to nothing with
>a weight on it. I think those foam pads made to fit on a rack are better. The
>material has a lot more density.
Haven't tried it but hear the "water noodles" are perfect. They'
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 12:34 am
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llutton.DeleteThis@aol.com (LLutton) writes:
> I found the pipe insulation to be worthless. They compress down to nothing with
> a weight on it.
But the object is to keep the boat from sliding, not to provide it
with a comfy snuggly doggie bed which it doesn't need. Anything
that'll make some friction ought to work. Hell, vinyl tape would
probably work.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 6:46 pm
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Well, for plastic and Whitewater boats I agree with you Mary, but for
lightweight Kevlar/Glass touring beds, Yakima style bars end up putting a
lot of force on a small area that can lead to cracks. Saddles and padding
help distribute the force.
Geoff
Mary Malmros <malmros.DeleteThis@shore.net> wrote in message
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> llutton.DeleteThis@aol.com (LLutton) writes:
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> > I found the pipe insulation to be worthless. They compress down to
nothing with
> > a weight on it.
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> But the object is to keep the boat from sliding, not to provide it
> with a comfy snuggly doggie bed which it doesn't need. Anything
> that'll make some friction ought to work. Hell, vinyl tape would
> probably work.
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> Mary Malmros malmros.DeleteThis@shore.net
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 2:03 am
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I guess the pipe insulation, or tape would keep the kayak from slipping
sideways. Aren't you concerned about distortion from sliding the kayak and
tightening it down on steel roof rack bars?
Lynn
>But the object is to keep the boat from sliding, not to provide it
>with a comfy snuggly doggie bed which it doesn't need. Anything
>that'll make some friction ought to work. Hell, vinyl tape would
>probably work.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 2:05 am
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