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Harry Krause

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:26 pm
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 3:31 pm
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"Harry Krause" <harry.krause.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> GPS is offered free and will soon be upgraded, but the EU has succeeded in
> signing up China, India and Israel among its partners in developing
> Galileo.


So, will the EU system be free to users, including foreign countries as the
US GPS system is?

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 4:04 pm
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:09 pm
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"Harry Krause" <harry.krause.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Eisboch wrote:
>> "Harry Krause" <harry.krause.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:41g3mkF1edml8U1@individual.net...
>>> GPS is offered free and will soon be upgraded, but the EU has succeeded
>>> in signing up China, India and Israel among its partners in developing
>>> Galileo.
>>
>>
>> So, will the EU system be free to users, including foreign countries as
>> the US GPS system is?
>>
>> Eisboch
>
>
> It would have to be. Unless...a coin-operated Euro GPS vending device from
> Garmin? Drop in a Euro? I've not seen a Euro coin, actually.

There are Euro coins. The country of minting is stamped on the outside
edge.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:44 pm
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:05 pm
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 21:44:29 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
<onetwothree.TakeThisOut@four.com> wrote:

>I've read that it will be, but I'm not as sure about compatibility. As
>I understand it, they are not going to use the same standard timing
>signals/algorithm as the US system, but I'm not sure of that. I had
>thought that the ITU had enforced a universal standard, but I can't
>find anything to verify that.
>
>Hopefully, it will be compatible.

================================

It would be nice but frankly I doubt it. That would not be
Euro-centric enough to justify the cost.

They could even elect to encrypt the signal and require paid
subscriptions like premium channels on satellite TV.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:47 am
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Harry Krause wrote:

> Eisboch wrote:
>
>> "Harry Krause" <harry.krause DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:41g3mkF1edml8U1@individual.net...
>>
>>> GPS is offered free and will soon be upgraded, but the EU has
>>> succeeded in signing up China, India and Israel among its partners in
>>> developing Galileo.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, will the EU system be free to users, including foreign countries
>> as the US GPS system is?
>>
>> Eisboch
>>
>
>
> It would have to be. Unless...a coin-operated Euro GPS vending device
> from Garmin? Drop in a Euro? I've not seen a Euro coin, actually.

The Dish Network and DirecTV aren't compatible. They could simply
transmit on a different frequency. It still could be free, you would
have to buy another GPS.

Dan
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:16 am
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:44 am
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" <onetwothree RemoveThis @four.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 22:05:28 -0500, Wayne.B
> <waynebatrecdotboats RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 21:44:29 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
>><onetwothree RemoveThis @four.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I've read that it will be, but I'm not as sure about compatibility. As
>>>I understand it, they are not going to use the same standard timing
>>>signals/algorithm as the US system, but I'm not sure of that. I had
>>>thought that the ITU had enforced a universal standard, but I can't
>>>find anything to verify that.
>>>
>>>Hopefully, it will be compatible.
>>
>>================================
>>
>>It would be nice but frankly I doubt it. That would not be
>>Euro-centric enough to justify the cost.
>>
>>They could even elect to encrypt the signal and require paid
>>subscriptions like premium channels on satellite TV.
>
> I tried looking it up on the ITU site, but couldn't find it.
>
> It seems like I read about it a few years ago when they first proposed
> their own system. There was some discussion about frequency
> compatibility, similar algorithms, etc., but one of the WRC
> conferences established that the US system was the best and the
> Europeans were just going to augment what was currently in place much
> like they do with the EPIRB system.
>
> I can't find any data that says that though, so it might not be.

Maybe it is an addendum to the Russian GLONASS system?
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 7:36 am
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from: VOA.com

Currently, the only worldwide player in the field is the United States. Its
Global Positioning System networks allow users to measure distances and
positions with great precision.

While the U.S. initially maintained that an additional navigation system
would be unnecessary, SSTL Chief Executive Officer Martin Sweeting
disagrees.

"It is quite important that Europe has an independent capability on this,"
he said. "To be reliant just on one system, particularly if it is a military
system, does not make a lot of sense. Europe's economy is really bound up in
satellite timing and you know, navigation is just one of the applications."

The U.S. and EU have agreed to make the two systems compatible.

Professor Chris Snowden from the University of Surrey says China's
participation in the program is significant.

"China is going to become a world power in its own right and we see that
developing as inevitable that will happen," he said. "I think that it is
actually important that Europe engages in this also to maintain its
position."

The idea is to test this prototype and another to be launched later in 2006.
If the scientists are then satisfied, some 30 satellites are envisioned
being sent into to orbit to form the basis of the navigation network.

"Bill McKee" <bmckeespam.RemoveThis@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> "Shortwave Sportfishing" <onetwothree.RemoveThis@four.com> wrote in message
> news:t1l6r15b6nsl4qgeu8b3ovpb24ebgsjtjl@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 22:05:28 -0500, Wayne.B
>> <waynebatrecdotboats.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 21:44:29 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
>>><onetwothree.RemoveThis@four.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I've read that it will be, but I'm not as sure about compatibility. As
>>>>I understand it, they are not going to use the same standard timing
>>>>signals/algorithm as the US system, but I'm not sure of that. I had
>>>>thought that the ITU had enforced a universal standard, but I can't
>>>>find anything to verify that.
>>>>
>>>>Hopefully, it will be compatible.
>>>
>>>================================
>>>
>>>It would be nice but frankly I doubt it. That would not be
>>>Euro-centric enough to justify the cost.
>>>
>>>They could even elect to encrypt the signal and require paid
>>>subscriptions like premium channels on satellite TV.
>>
>> I tried looking it up on the ITU site, but couldn't find it.
>>
>> It seems like I read about it a few years ago when they first proposed
>> their own system. There was some discussion about frequency
>> compatibility, similar algorithms, etc., but one of the WRC
>> conferences established that the US system was the best and the
>> Europeans were just going to augment what was currently in place much
>> like they do with the EPIRB system.
>>
>> I can't find any data that says that though, so it might not be.
>
> Maybe it is an addendum to the Russian GLONASS system?
>
>
>
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:23 am
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