Dumbass!

JohnH wrote:
> On 7 Oct 2006 10:13:13 -0700, tschnautz.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >Jim, did the "new" mechanic feel there was no other engine damage?
> >
> >Unless the winterizing is already done, I'd still ask them to run a
> >compression test, to see if a cylinder is low on compression. ie burned
> >halve, blown head gasket, or even a cracked head.
> >
> >These engines are pretty tough, but can still be hurt by accessive
> >heat, and in some cases, it doesn't take much, either.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > JimH wrote:
> >> I went to check on the repairs on my boat this morning, get the winterizing
> >> set up and square away on my bill. The engine was running rough after my
> >> overheating episode this summer. My new mechanic found that the port side
> >> exhaust manifold gaskets had failed due to the overheating and were allowing
> >> water into 2 of the cylinders. They also found that the oil cooler was
> >> leaking and the wrong spark plugs were installed (I had my old marina do a
> >> tune up on the boat last summer).
> >>
> >> Every time the *OMC Certified* mechanic at my old marina touched my boat he
> >> screwed something up. First he never replaced the impeller like I asked him
> >> to, saying he checked it and was working fine. Then the boat overheated
> >> because the impeller failed. Then he installed the wrong temperature
> >> thermostat when trying to "fix" the problem, never finding the bad manifold
> >> gasket. Earlier he used the wrong spark plugs during a routine tune-up.
> >>
> >> Boy am I glad we switched marinas and now have a good mechanic.
>
> Wow! Sounds like more bad karma.

Actually it is good karma John as things are all fixed and I found a
great marina and mechanic.

My *bad karma*, as you and Reggie talked about in recent months, was
due to a dumbass presenting himself as an OMC certified mechanic. My
other *bad karma* was due to an old sump pump I failed to change.

LOL....I guess this *karma* thing is easy to turn around.


> Hope everything works out for Jim. ;>)

Why thank you John, but if already has.

Anyway........Friends are coming over in 15 minutes or so to watch the
OSU/BGSU game and then feast on 6 slabs of baby back ribs I marinated
in my special wet rub overnight. 3 slabs are cooked.....3 more are in
the oven as I type this. They will later be slathered with BBQ sauce
and grilled for 5 to 10 minutes on the outside grill.

Beer is on ice. Cole slaw was made this morning. Mmmm, mmmmm.
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If you are eating in the livingroom in front of the wide screen, I hope
you have the place covered in paper towels, or a big painters drop
cloth.

Ribs? be careful, you might actually get that sauce in your mouth!

LOL!




JimH wrote:
> JohnH wrote:
> > On 7 Oct 2006 10:13:13 -0700, tschnautz RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > >Jim, did the "new" mechanic feel there was no other engine damage?
> > >
> > >Unless the winterizing is already done, I'd still ask them to run a
> > >compression test, to see if a cylinder is low on compression. ie burned
> > >halve, blown head gasket, or even a cracked head.
> > >
> > >These engines are pretty tough, but can still be hurt by accessive
> > >heat, and in some cases, it doesn't take much, either.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > JimH wrote:
> > >> I went to check on the repairs on my boat this morning, get the winterizing
> > >> set up and square away on my bill. The engine was running rough after my
> > >> overheating episode this summer. My new mechanic found that the port side
> > >> exhaust manifold gaskets had failed due to the overheating and were allowing
> > >> water into 2 of the cylinders. They also found that the oil cooler was
> > >> leaking and the wrong spark plugs were installed (I had my old marina do a
> > >> tune up on the boat last summer).
> > >>
> > >> Every time the *OMC Certified* mechanic at my old marina touched my boat he
> > >> screwed something up. First he never replaced the impeller like I asked him
> > >> to, saying he checked it and was working fine. Then the boat overheated
> > >> because the impeller failed. Then he installed the wrong temperature
> > >> thermostat when trying to "fix" the problem, never finding the bad manifold
> > >> gasket. Earlier he used the wrong spark plugs during a routine tune-up.
> > >>
> > >> Boy am I glad we switched marinas and now have a good mechanic.
> >
> > Wow! Sounds like more bad karma.
>
> Actually it is good karma John as things are all fixed and I found a
> great marina and mechanic.
>
> My *bad karma*, as you and Reggie talked about in recent months, was
> due to a dumbass presenting himself as an OMC certified mechanic. My
> other *bad karma* was due to an old sump pump I failed to change.
>
> LOL....I guess this *karma* thing is easy to turn around.
>
>
> > Hope everything works out for Jim. ;>)
>
> Why thank you John, but if already has.
>
> Anyway........Friends are coming over in 15 minutes or so to watch the
> OSU/BGSU game and then feast on 6 slabs of baby back ribs I marinated
> in my special wet rub overnight. 3 slabs are cooked.....3 more are in
> the oven as I type this. They will later be slathered with BBQ sauce
> and grilled for 5 to 10 minutes on the outside grill.
>
> Beer is on ice. Cole slaw was made this morning. Mmmm, mmmmm.
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Yes, they ran a compression test on all cylinders and said there was no
damage.


<tschnautz.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Jim, did the "new" mechanic feel there was no other engine damage?
>
> Unless the winterizing is already done, I'd still ask them to run a
> compression test, to see if a cylinder is low on compression. ie burned
> halve, blown head gasket, or even a cracked head.
>
> These engines are pretty tough, but can still be hurt by accessive
> heat, and in some cases, it doesn't take much, either.
>
>
>
>
> JimH wrote:
>> I went to check on the repairs on my boat this morning, get the
>> winterizing
>> set up and square away on my bill. The engine was running rough after
>> my
>> overheating episode this summer. My new mechanic found that the port
>> side
>> exhaust manifold gaskets had failed due to the overheating and were
>> allowing
>> water into 2 of the cylinders. They also found that the oil cooler was
>> leaking and the wrong spark plugs were installed (I had my old marina do
>> a
>> tune up on the boat last summer).
>>
>> Every time the *OMC Certified* mechanic at my old marina touched my boat
>> he
>> screwed something up. First he never replaced the impeller like I asked
>> him
>> to, saying he checked it and was working fine. Then the boat overheated
>> because the impeller failed. Then he installed the wrong temperature
>> thermostat when trying to "fix" the problem, never finding the bad
>> manifold
>> gasket. Earlier he used the wrong spark plugs during a routine tune-up.
>>
>> Boy am I glad we switched marinas and now have a good mechanic.
>
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On 7 Oct 2006 10:13:13 -0700, tschnautz RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:

>Jim, did the "new" mechanic feel there was no other engine damage?
>
>Unless the winterizing is already done, I'd still ask them to run a
>compression test, to see if a cylinder is low on compression. ie burned
>halve, blown head gasket, or even a cracked head.
>
>These engines are pretty tough, but can still be hurt by accessive
>heat, and in some cases, it doesn't take much, either.
>
>
>
>
> JimH wrote:
>> I went to check on the repairs on my boat this morning, get the winterizing
>> set up and square away on my bill. The engine was running rough after my
>> overheating episode this summer. My new mechanic found that the port side
>> exhaust manifold gaskets had failed due to the overheating and were allowing
>> water into 2 of the cylinders. They also found that the oil cooler was
>> leaking and the wrong spark plugs were installed (I had my old marina do a
>> tune up on the boat last summer).
>>
>> Every time the *OMC Certified* mechanic at my old marina touched my boat he
>> screwed something up. First he never replaced the impeller like I asked him
>> to, saying he checked it and was working fine. Then the boat overheated
>> because the impeller failed. Then he installed the wrong temperature
>> thermostat when trying to "fix" the problem, never finding the bad manifold
>> gasket. Earlier he used the wrong spark plugs during a routine tune-up.
>>
>> Boy am I glad we switched marinas and now have a good mechanic.

Wow! Sounds like more bad karma. Hope everything works out for Jim. ;>)
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But John, with consideration, he did give you the credit:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/84a976ee...54b1d/2


JohnH wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 16:59:02 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
> <nospamlantaga RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >JohnH wrote:
> >> On 7 Oct 2006 10:13:13 -0700, tschnautz RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jim, did the "new" mechanic feel there was no other engine damage?
> >>>
> >>> Unless the winterizing is already done, I'd still ask them to run a
> >>> compression test, to see if a cylinder is low on compression. ie burned
> >>> halve, blown head gasket, or even a cracked head.
> >>>
> >>> These engines are pretty tough, but can still be hurt by accessive
> >>> heat, and in some cases, it doesn't take much, either.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> JimH wrote:
> >>>> I went to check on the repairs on my boat this morning, get the winterizing
> >>>> set up and square away on my bill. The engine was running rough after my
> >>>> overheating episode this summer. My new mechanic found that the port side
> >>>> exhaust manifold gaskets had failed due to the overheating and were allowing
> >>>> water into 2 of the cylinders. They also found that the oil cooler was
> >>>> leaking and the wrong spark plugs were installed (I had my old marina do a
> >>>> tune up on the boat last summer).
> >>>>
> >>>> Every time the *OMC Certified* mechanic at my old marina touched my boat he
> >>>> screwed something up. First he never replaced the impeller like I asked him
> >>>> to, saying he checked it and was working fine. Then the boat overheated
> >>>> because the impeller failed. Then he installed the wrong temperature
> >>>> thermostat when trying to "fix" the problem, never finding the bad manifold
> >>>> gasket. Earlier he used the wrong spark plugs during a routine tune-up.
> >>>>
> >>>> Boy am I glad we switched marinas and now have a good mechanic.
> >>
> >> Wow! Sounds like more bad karma. Hope everything works out for Jim. ;>)
> >
> >I remember telling JimH that his mechanic was a dumbass last summer, for
> >all the reason listed here. Yet, JimH response was his mechanice was an
> >OMC certified mechanic, and who was I to question his mechanice's
> >judgment. There is an old expression, "Fool me once, shame on you.
> >Fool my twice, shame on me". I remember JimH not only getting fooled
> >over and over again, but being very nasty when I told him him mechanic
> >was an dumbass whose ignorance was going to cost him money. Some
> >people wonder why so many bad things happen to them, when to everyone
> >else it is obvious.
>
> JimH is not known as one who heeds good advice. It sounds like his new
> mechanic is sure finding a lot of things to 'fix'. I hope he's not letting
> himself in for another scam. I'd be checking a few things myself before
> letting all that work be done.
>
> But hey, he didn't ask for my advice, and if he did I wouldn't see it
> anyway.
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JimH wrote:
> I went to check on the repairs on my boat this morning, get the winterizing
> set up and square away on my bill. The engine was running rough after my
> overheating episode this summer. My new mechanic found that the port side
> exhaust manifold gaskets had failed due to the overheating and were allowing
> water into 2 of the cylinders. They also found that the oil cooler was
> leaking and the wrong spark plugs were installed (I had my old marina do a
> tune up on the boat last summer).
>
> Every time the *OMC Certified* mechanic at my old marina touched my boat he
> screwed something up. First he never replaced the impeller like I asked him
> to, saying he checked it and was working fine. Then the boat overheated
> because the impeller failed. Then he installed the wrong temperature
> thermostat when trying to "fix" the problem, never finding the bad manifold
> gasket. Earlier he used the wrong spark plugs during a routine tune-up.
>
> Boy am I glad we switched marinas and now have a good mechanic.
>
>


If you want a job done right, you've gotta do it yourself, that's what
I've always gone by and so far so good.
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true, but still.....


JohnH wrote:
> You're correct! I'd forgotten about that post, although it was after the
> fact, wasn't it?
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JohnH wrote:
> On 7 Oct 2006 10:13:13 -0700, tschnautz RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Jim, did the "new" mechanic feel there was no other engine damage?
>>
>> Unless the winterizing is already done, I'd still ask them to run a
>> compression test, to see if a cylinder is low on compression. ie burned
>> halve, blown head gasket, or even a cracked head.
>>
>> These engines are pretty tough, but can still be hurt by accessive
>> heat, and in some cases, it doesn't take much, either.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> JimH wrote:
>>> I went to check on the repairs on my boat this morning, get the winterizing
>>> set up and square away on my bill. The engine was running rough after my
>>> overheating episode this summer. My new mechanic found that the port side
>>> exhaust manifold gaskets had failed due to the overheating and were allowing
>>> water into 2 of the cylinders. They also found that the oil cooler was
>>> leaking and the wrong spark plugs were installed (I had my old marina do a
>>> tune up on the boat last summer).
>>>
>>> Every time the *OMC Certified* mechanic at my old marina touched my boat he
>>> screwed something up. First he never replaced the impeller like I asked him
>>> to, saying he checked it and was working fine. Then the boat overheated
>>> because the impeller failed. Then he installed the wrong temperature
>>> thermostat when trying to "fix" the problem, never finding the bad manifold
>>> gasket. Earlier he used the wrong spark plugs during a routine tune-up.
>>>
>>> Boy am I glad we switched marinas and now have a good mechanic.
>
> Wow! Sounds like more bad karma. Hope everything works out for Jim. ;>)

I remember telling JimH that his mechanic was a dumbass last summer, for
all the reason listed here. Yet, JimH response was his mechanice was an
OMC certified mechanic, and who was I to question his mechanice's
judgment. There is an old expression, "Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool my twice, shame on me". I remember JimH not only getting fooled
over and over again, but being very nasty when I told him him mechanic
was an dumbass whose ignorance was going to cost him money. Some
people wonder why so many bad things happen to them, when to everyone
else it is obvious.
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On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 16:59:02 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
<nospamlantaga RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

>JohnH wrote:
>> On 7 Oct 2006 10:13:13 -0700, tschnautz RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Jim, did the "new" mechanic feel there was no other engine damage?
>>>
>>> Unless the winterizing is already done, I'd still ask them to run a
>>> compression test, to see if a cylinder is low on compression. ie burned
>>> halve, blown head gasket, or even a cracked head.
>>>
>>> These engines are pretty tough, but can still be hurt by accessive
>>> heat, and in some cases, it doesn't take much, either.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> JimH wrote:
>>>> I went to check on the repairs on my boat this morning, get the winterizing
>>>> set up and square away on my bill. The engine was running rough after my
>>>> overheating episode this summer. My new mechanic found that the port side
>>>> exhaust manifold gaskets had failed due to the overheating and were allowing
>>>> water into 2 of the cylinders. They also found that the oil cooler was
>>>> leaking and the wrong spark plugs were installed (I had my old marina do a
>>>> tune up on the boat last summer).
>>>>
>>>> Every time the *OMC Certified* mechanic at my old marina touched my boat he
>>>> screwed something up. First he never replaced the impeller like I asked him
>>>> to, saying he checked it and was working fine. Then the boat overheated
>>>> because the impeller failed. Then he installed the wrong temperature
>>>> thermostat when trying to "fix" the problem, never finding the bad manifold
>>>> gasket. Earlier he used the wrong spark plugs during a routine tune-up.
>>>>
>>>> Boy am I glad we switched marinas and now have a good mechanic.
>>
>> Wow! Sounds like more bad karma. Hope everything works out for Jim. ;>)
>
>I remember telling JimH that his mechanic was a dumbass last summer, for
>all the reason listed here. Yet, JimH response was his mechanice was an
>OMC certified mechanic, and who was I to question his mechanice's
>judgment. There is an old expression, "Fool me once, shame on you.
>Fool my twice, shame on me". I remember JimH not only getting fooled
>over and over again, but being very nasty when I told him him mechanic
>was an dumbass whose ignorance was going to cost him money. Some
>people wonder why so many bad things happen to them, when to everyone
>else it is obvious.

JimH is not known as one who heeds good advice. It sounds like his new
mechanic is sure finding a lot of things to 'fix'. I hope he's not letting
himself in for another scam. I'd be checking a few things myself before
letting all that work be done.

But hey, he didn't ask for my advice, and if he did I wouldn't see it
anyway.
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James Sweet wrote:
> JimH wrote:
>> I went to check on the repairs on my boat this morning, get the
>> winterizing set up and square away on my bill. The engine was
>> running rough after my overheating episode this summer. My new
>> mechanic found that the port side exhaust manifold gaskets had failed
>> due to the overheating and were allowing water into 2 of the
>> cylinders. They also found that the oil cooler was leaking and the
>> wrong spark plugs were installed (I had my old marina do a tune up on
>> the boat last summer).
>>
>> Every time the *OMC Certified* mechanic at my old marina touched my
>> boat he screwed something up. First he never replaced the impeller
>> like I asked him to, saying he checked it and was working fine. Then
>> the boat overheated because the impeller failed. Then he installed
>> the wrong temperature thermostat when trying to "fix" the problem,
>> never finding the bad manifold gasket. Earlier he used the wrong
>> spark plugs during a routine tune-up.
>>
>> Boy am I glad we switched marinas and now have a good mechanic.
>>
>
>
> If you want a job done right, you've gotta do it yourself, that's what
> I've always gone by and so far so good.

Do you do your own dentistry? What about surgery, do you use a mirror
with the scapel?
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On 7 Oct 2006 14:50:15 -0700, tschnautz.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:

>But John, with consideration, he did give you the credit:
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/84a976ee74c54b1d/2c735381961e2002?lnk=gst&q=I+should+have+listened+to+Johnh&rnum=1#2c735381961e2002
>

>> JimH is not known as one who heeds good advice. It sounds like his new
>> mechanic is sure finding a lot of things to 'fix'. I hope he's not letting
>> himself in for another scam. I'd be checking a few things myself before
>> letting all that work be done.
>>
>> But hey, he didn't ask for my advice, and if he did I wouldn't see it
>> anyway.

You're correct! I'd forgotten about that post, although it was after the
fact, wasn't it?
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<tschnautz DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> true, but still.....

Actually not true. I gave him credit when I found out. And it was not the
manifold itself but the gasket so thechnically his advice was not correct.

Anyway...................

Some folks like to live their lives remembering the petty (and often untrue)
negative things of the past rather than enjoying the good things of the
present........making their entire life negative. John and bassy need to
watch the old Disney film "Old Yeller", especially the part where Fess
Parker talks to his son Tommy Kirk about how to get over losing his dog.

An interesting observation..........John is acting very *Kevinesque* lately.
Both need to chill and move on with life.

>
>
> JohnH wrote:
>> You're correct! I'd forgotten about that post, ..

Why am I not surprised?

>>.....although it was after the fact, wasn't it?

What does that have to do with anything? I gave you credit.

Grow up and move on already John.
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<tschnautz.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> JimH wrote:
>> JohnH wrote:
>> > On 7 Oct 2006 10:13:13 -0700, tschnautz.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> > >Jim, did the "new" mechanic feel there was no other engine damage?
>> > >
>> > >Unless the winterizing is already done, I'd still ask them to run a
>> > >compression test, to see if a cylinder is low on compression. ie
>> > >burned
>> > >halve, blown head gasket, or even a cracked head.
>> > >
>> > >These engines are pretty tough, but can still be hurt by accessive
>> > >heat, and in some cases, it doesn't take much, either.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > JimH wrote:
>> > >> I went to check on the repairs on my boat this morning, get the
>> > >> winterizing
>> > >> set up and square away on my bill. The engine was running rough
>> > >> after my
>> > >> overheating episode this summer. My new mechanic found that the
>> > >> port side
>> > >> exhaust manifold gaskets had failed due to the overheating and were
>> > >> allowing
>> > >> water into 2 of the cylinders. They also found that the oil cooler
>> > >> was
>> > >> leaking and the wrong spark plugs were installed (I had my old
>> > >> marina do a
>> > >> tune up on the boat last summer).
>> > >>
>> > >> Every time the *OMC Certified* mechanic at my old marina touched my
>> > >> boat he
>> > >> screwed something up. First he never replaced the impeller like I
>> > >> asked him
>> > >> to, saying he checked it and was working fine. Then the boat
>> > >> overheated
>> > >> because the impeller failed. Then he installed the wrong
>> > >> temperature
>> > >> thermostat when trying to "fix" the problem, never finding the bad
>> > >> manifold
>> > >> gasket. Earlier he used the wrong spark plugs during a routine
>> > >> tune-up.
>> > >>
>> > >> Boy am I glad we switched marinas and now have a good mechanic.
>> >
>> > Wow! Sounds like more bad karma.
>>
>> Actually it is good karma John as things are all fixed and I found a
>> great marina and mechanic.
>>
>> My *bad karma*, as you and Reggie talked about in recent months, was
>> due to a dumbass presenting himself as an OMC certified mechanic. My
>> other *bad karma* was due to an old sump pump I failed to change.
>>
>> LOL....I guess this *karma* thing is easy to turn around.
>>
>>
>> > Hope everything works out for Jim. ;>)
>>
>> Why thank you John, but if already has.
>>
>> Anyway........Friends are coming over in 15 minutes or so to watch the
>> OSU/BGSU game and then feast on 6 slabs of baby back ribs I marinated
>> in my special wet rub overnight. 3 slabs are cooked.....3 more are in
>> the oven as I type this. They will later be slathered with BBQ sauce
>> and grilled for 5 to 10 minutes on the outside grill.
>>
>> Beer is on ice. Cole slaw was made this morning. Mmmm, mmmmm.
>
> If you are eating in the livingroom in front of the wide screen, I hope
> you have the place covered in paper towels, or a big painters drop
> cloth.
>
> Ribs? be careful, you might actually get that sauce in your mouth!
>
> LOL!


We ate at the kitchen table (avoiding the mess by eating in the dining room
over nice carpeting) and at the adjacent kitchen counter (we had 11 people
in total). The atmosphere was relaxed and informal. The ribs were great
and OSU played an acceptable but uninspiring game. Later, while sitting
around the family room and talking about nothing some of our friends had
seconds......all while sitting on upholstered furniture and not getting
sauce on the furniture. No drips, spills or stains.............we knew they
could do.

It was a good day..............my boat is fixed.............no furniture was
ruined while eating ribs.......we had a great time with our friends. Add to
that the fact that our daughter now has full senses back in her tongue after
the removal of 4 wisdom teeth.

Wahoo! We now officially have good karma.

PS: Dog gone it! If we only knew restoring our karma from bad to good was
only this simple we would have spent the money months ago to have it
changed.
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