Documents for (Circumnavigation)

Salut ET!

First, you need the boat that'll get you there! Second, you'll need
the same traveling documentation (passport, visas, vaccination
certificate if required) as you'd have for other ways of traveling.
You and your boat need to be compliant with all regulations of YOUR
OWN country, not the countries you visit up to certain limits
described further below. Our French cousins, for example, need special
training and licences to venture out more than 6 miles from shore.
Their boats are to be specifically approved for oceanic cruise. Here,
the PCOC is all that is required and is all that you need as legal
proof of competence in foreign countries as per international marine
law. And if you get the fancy of doing it on a surf board, no laws
will forbid you here to try as long as it complies with the
International and Canadian collisions regulation. That's why most of
these crazy stunts start on our side of the pond. That would be
completely illegal in France for Frenchmen. For international
communication purposes also, a Radio Station licence and the marine
operator permit are also required.

You need also to learn about all the specific regulations in the
countries you intend to visit. For example: Foreigners coming here in
Canada have a 43 days limit after what they have to equip their boat
with Canadian Coast Guard approved material the same as a Canadian
one. Many US States have limitations in duration of stay after which
you must pay State Taxes on your boat's value. The Bahamas plainly
requires cash if you want to be cleared into their territory. Having
the boat registered as a Canadian boat (Blue Book) instead of having
only a provincial permit will shure help you clear faster customs.
Well, you know how much red tape is involved when you pass from a
country to another. The farther you are from home and the more strange
and exotic these requirements may be. As you prepare your itinerary,
enquire about the specific places you have in mind to newsgroups such
as this one or sailing forums.

So you need to prepare the same for such a trip as you would for any
other individual mean of travel, like going around the world in a
bike, car or by foot. And for sure, having the boat that can do it and
enough experience and humility to know the boat's limits and your own
in order not to get killed, if not needed are preferable. But this,
you'll discover soon enough, if ever "en route pour le Golfe
St-Laurent!!!"

And I'll pass over the obvious such as very good knowledge of wheather
in oceanic conditions, emergency measures such as thourough first aid
(doctors are far apart) and, of course, all the needed charts and
local cruising guides you may find.

If you are really new to sail, I'd suggest you join your local CPS
squadron and take a few lessons with a Sailing school like "Les
Blanchons" if you haven't allready. They give advanced trainning to
sailors on the Lower St-Lawrence and, in the Gulf, you'll have a sneak
peak at what awaits you once in wide open sea. You may decide that,
after all, you have all the water you need at home! At least for now!

Salut bien!

Jean Dufour
Moyac 1
Montréal, Qc

PS: T'es où exactement?

J'viens d'piger trop tard ton fil sur fr.rec.bateaux, désolé!

ET wrote:
>
> Hello or good evening has all! I am new in the domain of the sail and I live
> in Quebec...
>
> I wonder what are documents that one has need to make a circumnavigation. (I
> know that people of other country one a different regimentation that us to
> Canada,
> it is why if you answer me, to Specify from where you come.
> the most precise soyer that possible and if you have the model of experience
> that happened to you and of the something that you had not thought and that
> finally you had need in court of voyage.
>
> I let you my e-mail if you have documents that you want to appear to me
>
> z32-40 RemoveThis @hotmail.com
>
> Thank you has the advance and good wind!
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My greeting,



Well to answer you honestly if I had not specified that I was new in the
domain who would have answered me?





I would have to add it surely that I was new in offshore sailing , and to
reassure you on my expertise I am descended of a family with a very big
past, present, and maritime future, because I come from Magdalen Islands, in
principle I think therefore well to have scope to lead imported the very
that els ships that they are had sail or no.



To conclude I would say that I spent more time in my life on water that on
the earth and for those that think that the floor of cows is more secur that
the sea and well I would answer this (I had a neighbor who did only say
during all his life that it was dangerous. And well one day he was right it
rose of his rocking chair descended of it gallery got ready has cross the
street to go at the seaside and then he had a heart attack! .



(One day a friend my asked why I wasted my time on my old 470, I answered
him to go one day farther, the same friend a few years asked me later the
same question this time the I was in preparation on my finn, and I answered
him the same thing (to go farther) and well I am rendered has this now
farther and it is why I ask this question..



There are several reasons in a man's life that pushes it to make things
incompressibleses, for the other!







"Charles T. Low" <ctlow4.RemoveThis@boatUNdocking.com[withoutUN]> a écrit dans le
message de news: 440af83d$0$7207$4c56cdcf@news.ripnet.com...
> ET: for goodness sake, _call home_!
>
> I don't know about the documents, but a standard response under these
> circumstances is: if you're new to sail, why are you thinking about this?
> It's like never having driven a car and wanting suddenly to do a Nascar
> race.
>
> What is your previous boating experience? Training? Reading?
>
> ====
>
> Charles T. Low
> www.boatdocking.com
>
> ====
>
> "ET" <z32-40.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MweOf.21652$W%5.415919@weber.videotron.net...
>> Hello or good evening has all! I am new in the domain of the sail and I
>> live
>> in Quebec...
>>
>> I wonder what are documents that one has need to make a circumnavigation.
>> (I
>> know that people of other country one a different regimentation that us
>> to
>> Canada,
>> it is why if you answer me, to Specify from where you come.
>> the most precise soyer that possible and if you have the model of
>> experience
>> that happened to you and of the something that you had not thought and
>> that
>> finally you had need in court of voyage.
>>
>>
>> I let you my e-mail if you have documents that you want to appear to me
>>
>> z32-40.RemoveThis@hotmail.com
>>
>> Thank you has the advance and good wind!
>
>
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ET,

1/ Try that again in French. I mean that in the most courteous way, but
it's very hard to decipher! (Not that my French is any better!) Essay ca
encore en francais. Je souhaite rester aussi polis que possible, mais c'est
tres difficile a comprendre. (Vous voyez que je n'ecrit pas le francais tres
bien non plus.)

2/ And thank for adding in that extra detail. It helps.

I do opine, however and from time to time, that there is no one so dangerous
as an experienced expert, unless they remember all the time to respect the
intricacies of their theory and practice, continue to pay attention to all
the details, and don't over-extend themselves beyond their level of
expertise. In other words, never let years of uneventful boating delude us
into thinking that we are safe, or more than lucky, or know more than we do.

That means that your boating heritage and experience do matter, but I would
need further convincing that they qualify you for true "blue water." What
about formal training, for example?

Thanks again. Looking forward to more detail.

Charles

====

Charles T. Low
www.boatdocking.com

====

"ET" <z32-40.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:qraPf.41336$Nb5.651689@weber.videotron.net...
> My greeting,
>
> Well to answer you honestly if I had not specified that I was new in the
> domain who would have answered me?
>
> I would have to add it surely that I was new in offshore sailing , and to
> reassure you on my expertise I am descended of a family with a very big
> past, present, and maritime future, because I come from Magdalen Islands,
> in principle I think therefore well to have scope to lead imported the
> very that els ships that they are had sail or no.
>
> To conclude I would say that I spent more time in my life on water that on
> the earth and for those that think that the floor of cows is more secur
> that the sea and well I would answer this (I had a neighbor who did only
> say during all his life that it was dangerous. And well one day he was
> right it rose of his rocking chair descended of it gallery got ready has
> cross the street to go at the seaside and then he had a heart attack! .
>
> (One day a friend my asked why I wasted my time on my old 470, I answered
> him to go one day farther, the same friend a few years asked me later the
> same question this time the I was in preparation on my finn, and I
> answered him the same thing (to go farther) and well I am rendered has
> this now farther and it is why I ask this question..
>
> There are several reasons in a man's life that pushes it to make things
> incompressibleses, for the other!
 >> Stay informed about: Documents for (Circumnavigation) 

Hello Charles!

Look at a map of the maritimes, 40 or so miles North West of Cape
Breton and see the sand bar dead amidst the Gulf of St-Lawrence called
Magdalen Islands? These people are borned in boats and as far as
respecting the sea, they almost go to church in 'em every Sunday. I
think loosing a familly member to the sea sure makes you ponder the
risks involved in daring it. Deep in what must be the last of real
fishermen country in Quebec, no family there was spared the plight of
seing one more fishing boat with a loved one aboard not coming back.
Unfortunately too common, even today, in the fishing community and
industry. They make no exceptions there. Without wanting to depreciate
what's learned in the CPS and such schools, I believe that by the age
of 10, these guys know more about boats, the sea and what the sea can
do to boats than the average and well trained "continental" pleasure
boater. I believe he knows very well about this part.

I'm glad I met him over the newsgroups as myself would consider an
accomplishment one day to cruise to his waters and he gave me very
good advice on how to approach the Islands after the 100 miles leg in
the Gulf toward it. I do believe the only point he ignored and asked
about (as he also reads the French newsgroup fr.rec.bateaux) was the
legal paper work involved in such endeavours. Our French cousins love
paperworks and permits. It is almost like they need a permit just to
look at a boat! Not the same here in Canada. Nototious familly in
Quebec did this on the Sailboat La V'limeuse, raising their familly
aboard over several years. Imagine! 3 teenagers in a tight place and
no Ritalin. Yes, it's a real challenge but it has been done and will
be done again! Reading their books may be a good start. They have a
website easily found by googling " la V'limeuse".

Now, about the limit of navigation Frenches on the other side of the
pond have, he may have wondered if such limits wera applicable to us
when cruising in their country and they don't. Ours do. Only limit to
your navigation is if you want to be insured for the trip, that may be
another ball game. Mr insurer has his say over this. (Just got my
renewal and it made me remember!) Personnaly I am limited south of
50N, north of 42N, east of 95W and a 100 limit from the coasts. French
territory St-Pierre et Miquelon, although a short swim from
Newfoundland's coast is off limit though! But insurance is not an
obligation but you ain't gotta be the financially nervous type then!

But I will sure rely on his advice before going out in the open of the
Gulf of St-Lawrence for the first time. Only thing I wonder is why,
being surrounded by the best destinations in maritime Canada he wants
to cruise so far first? Doubling and most possibly tripling the
trouble it's allready here?

Let's look at the romantic adventure of a new Italian friend we read
over fr.rec.bateaux. Although both countries are members of the
European community and have now common territorial waters and laws,
this Italian who normally should have no problem cruising European
waters under Italian law is now stuck in Greece with a broken engine,
no mechanics and a Port Authority who doesn't want to see him leave to
sea in this state, billing him big dough for the stay. He got a
reality check about the romantism of international travel and
unplanned expenses and he wasn't even out of Europe! For him now,
Greece is a third world country in his book. He just bought the boat
and was planning on such big time adventures. Not as romantic as first
planned he should figure out now!

I know I would spend 10 or 20 years cruising the Atlantic Provinces
then Maine toward the Chesapeake Bay and still not have seen enough!
After all, we have the longest coasts in the world, much to explore
here and often more remote than one could wish. That Newfoundland
coast could be more than enough for starter. Then goin' around it may
be quite another endeavour! People often ignore the wonders
surrounding them every day!

Jean Dufour
Montreal, Qc

"Charles T. Low" wrote:
>
> ET,
>
> 1/ Try that again in French. I mean that in the most courteous way, but
> it's very hard to decipher! (Not that my French is any better!) Essay ca
> encore en francais. Je souhaite rester aussi polis que possible, mais c'est
> tres difficile a comprendre. (Vous voyez que je n'ecrit pas le francais tres
> bien non plus.)
>
> 2/ And thank for adding in that extra detail. It helps.
>
> I do opine, however and from time to time, that there is no one so dangerous
> as an experienced expert, unless they remember all the time to respect the
> intricacies of their theory and practice, continue to pay attention to all
> the details, and don't over-extend themselves beyond their level of
> expertise. In other words, never let years of uneventful boating delude us
> into thinking that we are safe, or more than lucky, or know more than we do.
>
> That means that your boating heritage and experience do matter, but I would
> need further convincing that they qualify you for true "blue water." What
> about formal training, for example?
>
> Thanks again. Looking forward to more detail.
>
> Charles
>
> ====
>
> Charles T. Low
> www.boatdocking.com
>
> ====d
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Merci, Jean,

I understand what you say about being born in boats. Nonetheless, regular
crossings in "big" water do not equal trans-oceanic boating. As one example,
the medical/dental concerns are completely different. You are so far from
help, once you're in the middle, that it's a different kettle of fish in
many, many ways.

I've never done it, so I'm just surmising.

Also, you unintentionally reinforce my point by saying that "deep in what
must be the last of real fishermen country in Quebec, no family there was
spared the plight of seeing one more fishing boat with a loved one aboard
not coming back." It may be like family farming: one of the highest-injury
occupations known, and many of the "incidents" would be preventable with
proper training and adherence to "industrial" standards. That high a rate of
mishap would be illegal for big business.

Thanks again. I hope you don't mind that we're disagreeing. (I don't.)

Charles

====

Charles T. Low
www.boatdocking.com

====

"Jean Dufour" <moyac1.removethis DeleteThis @sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4415C4A4.9DB9420C@sympatico.ca...
> Hello Charles!
>
> Look at a map of the maritimes, 40 or so miles North West of Cape
> Breton and see the sand bar dead amidst the Gulf of St-Lawrence called
> Magdalen Islands? These people are borned in boats and as far as
> respecting the sea, they almost go to church in 'em every Sunday. I
> think loosing a familly member to the sea sure makes you ponder the
> risks involved in daring it. Deep in what must be the last of real
> fishermen country in Quebec, no family there was spared the plight of
> seing one more fishing boat with a loved one aboard not coming back.
> Unfortunately too common, even today, in the fishing community and
> industry. They make no exceptions there. Without wanting to depreciate
> what's learned in the CPS and such schools, I believe that by the age
> of 10, these guys know more about boats, the sea and what the sea can
> do to boats than the average and well trained "continental" pleasure
> boater. I believe he knows very well about this part.
>
> I'm glad I met him over the newsgroups as myself would consider an
> accomplishment one day to cruise to his waters and he gave me very
> good advice on how to approach the Islands after the 100 miles leg in
> the Gulf toward it. I do believe the only point he ignored and asked
> about (as he also reads the French newsgroup fr.rec.bateaux) was the
> legal paper work involved in such endeavours. Our French cousins love
> paperworks and permits. It is almost like they need a permit just to
> look at a boat! Not the same here in Canada. Nototious familly in
> Quebec did this on the Sailboat La V'limeuse, raising their familly
> aboard over several years. Imagine! 3 teenagers in a tight place and
> no Ritalin. Yes, it's a real challenge but it has been done and will
> be done again! Reading their books may be a good start. They have a
> website easily found by googling " la V'limeuse".
>
> Now, about the limit of navigation Frenches on the other side of the
> pond have, he may have wondered if such limits wera applicable to us
> when cruising in their country and they don't. Ours do. Only limit to
> your navigation is if you want to be insured for the trip, that may be
> another ball game. Mr insurer has his say over this. (Just got my
> renewal and it made me remember!) Personnaly I am limited south of
> 50N, north of 42N, east of 95W and a 100 limit from the coasts. French
> territory St-Pierre et Miquelon, although a short swim from
> Newfoundland's coast is off limit though! But insurance is not an
> obligation but you ain't gotta be the financially nervous type then!
>
> But I will sure rely on his advice before going out in the open of the
> Gulf of St-Lawrence for the first time. Only thing I wonder is why,
> being surrounded by the best destinations in maritime Canada he wants
> to cruise so far first? Doubling and most possibly tripling the
> trouble it's allready here?
>
> Let's look at the romantic adventure of a new Italian friend we read
> over fr.rec.bateaux. Although both countries are members of the
> European community and have now common territorial waters and laws,
> this Italian who normally should have no problem cruising European
> waters under Italian law is now stuck in Greece with a broken engine,
> no mechanics and a Port Authority who doesn't want to see him leave to
> sea in this state, billing him big dough for the stay. He got a
> reality check about the romantism of international travel and
> unplanned expenses and he wasn't even out of Europe! For him now,
> Greece is a third world country in his book. He just bought the boat
> and was planning on such big time adventures. Not as romantic as first
> planned he should figure out now!
>
> I know I would spend 10 or 20 years cruising the Atlantic Provinces
> then Maine toward the Chesapeake Bay and still not have seen enough!
> After all, we have the longest coasts in the world, much to explore
> here and often more remote than one could wish. That Newfoundland
> coast could be more than enough for starter. Then goin' around it may
> be quite another endeavour! People often ignore the wonders
> surrounding them every day!
>
> Jean Dufour
> Montreal, Qc
 >> Stay informed about: Documents for (Circumnavigation) 

Hello Charles!

"Charles T. Low" wrote:
>
> Merci, Jean,
>
> I understand what you say about being born in boats. Nonetheless, regular
> crossings in "big" water do not equal trans-oceanic boating. As one example,
> the medical/dental concerns are completely different. You are so far from
> help, once you're in the middle, that it's a different kettle of fish in
> many, many ways.
>
> I've never done it, so I'm just surmising.
>
> Also, you unintentionally reinforce my point by saying that "deep in what
> must be the last of real fishermen country in Quebec, no family there was
> spared the plight of seeing one more fishing boat with a loved one aboard
> not coming back." It may be like family farming: one of the highest-injury
> occupations known, and many of the "incidents" would be preventable with
> proper training and adherence to "industrial" standards. That high a rate of
> mishap would be illegal for big business.
>
> Thanks again. I hope you don't mind that we're disagreeing. (I don't.)
>

I don't think we really disagree. I just pointed out he's in a
position to appreciate that more than the majority of inland boaters.
And apparently, one doesn't have to be that far out in the blue to get
into deep trouble. I don't know if this made the news through Canada
or was this just aired locally but a guy from Ville La Baie has been
rescued this week after spending 4 months drifting in the Atlantic on
his wrecked boat with only a box of rice and 2 jerrycans of water. He
left New York for Bermudas, only a quarter of the way to the other
side, and never made it that far. He saw many passing cargos but
wasn't seen. It's one thing to plan and avoid trouble but it's quite
another to leave with enough will to survive in case of problem!!!
Keep them flares close to you at any time, anyways!!!

I do not want to minimize such endeavour. I just pointed out his
question was more about the paperwork involved. Never did I say your
thoughts weren't wise. Maybe I intended to add a little local color
for those who don't know how lost in the middle of the Gulf they are.
I may reinforce what you say, yes, because we don't disagree.

Let alone the cruising training, I believe the redtape aspect would be
enough to discourage me of going around the world since I'm not a
travel agent (but one may be of help to him). And I won't even go into
the matter of the volatile international situations one WILL encounter
going around the globe. There's no way you can avoid them all while
bragging you'll travel only in safe countries and seas.

Personnally, I'd begin to evaluate crossing the Atlantic to see our
French cousins, as a first evident step, long before considering
making it around around the globe.

My goals don't go that far but they do bring toward the Gulf and his
corner of the pond. I approach it really carefully because the Gulf is
the part of the Quebec-St-Malo transat race participants fear the
most, comparing it often to Cape Horn in difficulty level. If these
seasoned sailors fear and respect the place, I have every reasons in
the world to think the same.

Cheers!

Jean
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Just scanning the posts from here and have been always interesrested in
transatlantics adn Circumnavigation. Living in Cape Breton, east coast of
island we see more than our share of sailors leave our shores to cross to
Portugal adn further across to Europe and other Euro destinations. You would
be amazed at the variety of craft to make this crossing several times. Even
more interesting it is always exciting to meet the persons on board. The
smallest sail boat I have seen cross was a 26 ft wooden sloop, wooden mast,
worn sails, adn very low freeboard. Teh skipper claimed he had made this
journey several times before although the first time in this boat. As far as
I know he and his gal made it!. I have also witnessed the Daddy's Boat
Syndrome where two young couples stayed for a night or so aty anchor in our
harbour then struck out across the pond ( yeah we all call it the Pond!) to
Portugal. Several days out he radioed he was in trouble (really scared) and
the crew and skipp were heli lifted out. Now the local newfies go hear there
is a really big 50+ ft sailboat out there now abandoned and out they go into
the storm to put a line on it adn claim the prize. In a nutshell, I have
sailed to Quebec, Montreal, Gaspe, Ontario and in the Gulf. adn as well to
Magdalene Islands. All teh waters are beautiful and like all wise sailors we
must sselect our days to make passages. The people in all the places we have
stayed are very pleasant and open minded and are great fun to visit with. So
come sail teh Gulf and Atlantic Side meet the people enjoy the hospitality
and all we have to show and select your sailing days. There is no where you
cannot go. I have seen 28 ft Grampian cross to France with no complications.
Just by selecting the correct weather window and being in toucjh with
weather system information.
Take cAre
W Worthylake



"Jean Dufour" <moyac1.remove.TakeThisOut@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44424BA5.915656E5@sympatico.ca...
> Hello Charles!
>
> "Charles T. Low" wrote:
>>
>> Merci, Jean,
>>
>> I understand what you say about being born in boats. Nonetheless, regular
>> crossings in "big" water do not equal trans-oceanic boating. As one
>> example,
>> the medical/dental concerns are completely different. You are so far from
>> help, once you're in the middle, that it's a different kettle of fish in
>> many, many ways.
>>
>> I've never done it, so I'm just surmising.
>>
>> Also, you unintentionally reinforce my point by saying that "deep in what
>> must be the last of real fishermen country in Quebec, no family there was
>> spared the plight of seeing one more fishing boat with a loved one aboard
>> not coming back." It may be like family farming: one of the
>> highest-injury
>> occupations known, and many of the "incidents" would be preventable with
>> proper training and adherence to "industrial" standards. That high a rate
>> of
>> mishap would be illegal for big business.
>>
>> Thanks again. I hope you don't mind that we're disagreeing. (I don't.)
>>
>
> I don't think we really disagree. I just pointed out he's in a
> position to appreciate that more than the majority of inland boaters.
> And apparently, one doesn't have to be that far out in the blue to get
> into deep trouble. I don't know if this made the news through Canada
> or was this just aired locally but a guy from Ville La Baie has been
> rescued this week after spending 4 months drifting in the Atlantic on
> his wrecked boat with only a box of rice and 2 jerrycans of water. He
> left New York for Bermudas, only a quarter of the way to the other
> side, and never made it that far. He saw many passing cargos but
> wasn't seen. It's one thing to plan and avoid trouble but it's quite
> another to leave with enough will to survive in case of problem!!!
> Keep them flares close to you at any time, anyways!!!
>
> I do not want to minimize such endeavour. I just pointed out his
> question was more about the paperwork involved. Never did I say your
> thoughts weren't wise. Maybe I intended to add a little local color
> for those who don't know how lost in the middle of the Gulf they are.
> I may reinforce what you say, yes, because we don't disagree.
>
> Let alone the cruising training, I believe the redtape aspect would be
> enough to discourage me of going around the world since I'm not a
> travel agent (but one may be of help to him). And I won't even go into
> the matter of the volatile international situations one WILL encounter
> going around the globe. There's no way you can avoid them all while
> bragging you'll travel only in safe countries and seas.
>
> Personnally, I'd begin to evaluate crossing the Atlantic to see our
> French cousins, as a first evident step, long before considering
> making it around around the globe.
>
> My goals don't go that far but they do bring toward the Gulf and his
> corner of the pond. I approach it really carefully because the Gulf is
> the part of the Quebec-St-Malo transat race participants fear the
> most, comparing it often to Cape Horn in difficulty level. If these
> seasoned sailors fear and respect the place, I have every reasons in
> the world to think the same.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Jean
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He left Long Island on December 22nd for
> Bermudas an was not heard from 'til last week. he saild 4 days and
> survived 16 weeks on the wreck with only 2 kilos of sugar, 2 boxes of
> Kraft dinners, 2 barrels (?) of fresh water, a bag of rice and a few
> cans of food. He said his favorite in the last days was a mix of
> sugar, ketchup and water.

That sounds a lot like my diet in college!
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Hello Charles.

He asked his questoin over several newsgroups. He had several answers
on rec.boat.cruising with references to global cruise books and some
examples of documentations asked for in several countries. He also
asked over the French newsgroup fr.rec.bateaux and I continued
discussion in French over there. I personnally refered him to the
website and books from the crew of La V'limeuse, a couple who raised
their teens sailing around the world and to check for conference from
well known Quebec sailor Yves Gelinas who did the thing singlehandedly
on an Alberg 29.

And again, I told him he has one of the best cruising spots in the
World around him so why go through all this trouble when surrounded by
so much marine wonders is a mystery to me. But, again, these questions
needs answers even when were just dreamin' about nice adventures! As I
am moving toward his neck of the sea, he provided me with usefull tips
to approach his Islands.

Person livin in France would have to go thru intensive training to get
progressively, with experience, the offshore licences (expensive also)
and need a boat rated by their "affmar" for to leave from France for
the same trip. Much more fun to live on this side of the ocean for
this matter. By international rules, papers and licences and permits
needed are the ones required under one's own flag/country to do any
kind of navigation. And by what I read, the European Union was to
simplify a lot of things in navigations matters but it doesn't mean
there that you can cruise this freely between European countries, even
for an European. Much redtape is still left and it rather adds to the
confusion there as there is not yet an European navigation flag. Yet,
one may still have a limitation in stay before complying to their code
of equipment and/or pay taxes. (42 days, I believe, for a foreign
vessel visiting Canada after what his foreign approved safety
equipment must be replaced by CCG approved material for example.)

So his reasearch over this "paper" matters should look more like a
"travel agent" type of reasearch. Each countries intended to be
visited needs different types of things, have their different
restrictions, and so on... with any mean of transports, these days,
one can't just say "oh! lets make it left into Java, just for fun!"
Visas are still needed in many place in world.

Be well and yes, be safe!

Jean
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