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Barney Boater

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:28 pm
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Hi, I'm looking for some websites that have dock building infomation, tips,
advice, etc. I am especially looking for information on the best way to
build a crib for the dock. One question in particular that I have is how to
attach the cedar beams together that I will be using for the crib, spikes or
large bolts? Also looking for just general dock building advice/info.

Website references or any direct advice on building techniques would be
greatly appreciated.

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Tom Ruta

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 1:56 am
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On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 16:28:44 -0500, "Barney Boater"
<onthelake.RemoveThis@planetearth.com> wrote:

 >
 >Hi, I'm looking for some websites that have dock building infomation, tips,
 >advice, etc. I am especially looking for information on the best way to
 >build a crib for the dock. One question in particular that I have is how to
 >attach the cedar beams together that I will be using for the crib, spikes or
 >large bolts? Also looking for just general dock building advice/info.
 >
 >Website references or any direct advice on building techniques would be
 >greatly appreciated.
 >
Get approval form the local authorities first. Or get fined,
possibly.

There are lots of dock plan sites around (like Tie Down or Overton's)
but they do not deal with cribbing. There's some info in
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D1580170986/CottageCountryOnA/104-4409860-9275121" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D1580170986/CottageCountryOnA/...-440986</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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Sparky1

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 8:45 am
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I built my last one from ideas in:

The Dock Manual
By Max Burns
ISBN: 1-58017-098-6

Covers cribs, excellent illustrations, tips, tricks, hardware, materials...
just wonderful.

Good luck,
Sparky


"Barney Boater" <onthelake RemoveThis @planetearth.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > Hi, I'm looking for some websites that have dock building infomation,
tips,
 > advice, etc. I am especially looking for information on the best way to
 > build a crib for the dock. One question in particular that I have is how
to
 > attach the cedar beams together that I will be using for the crib, spikes
or
 > large bolts? Also looking for just general dock building advice/info.
 >
 > Website references or any direct advice on building techniques would be
 > greatly appreciated.
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Jim Thompson1

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:32 pm
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"Barney Boater" <onthelake.TakeThisOut@planetearth.com> wrote in message news:<f845c.1403$E71.195535@news20.bellglobal.com>...
 > Hi, I'm looking for some websites that have dock building infomation, tips,
 > advice, etc. I am especially looking for information on the best way to
 > build a crib for the dock. One question in particular that I have is how to
 > attach the cedar beams together that I will be using for the crib, spikes or
 > large bolts? Also looking for just general dock building advice/info.
 >
 > Website references or any direct advice on building techniques would be
 > greatly appreciated.


What is a crib? (other than a rock/sports star's house)<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Jim Carter

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:52 am
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"Jim Thompson" <jim.thompson.TakeThisOut@lagosantafe.com> wrote in message
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 > "Barney Boater" <onthelake.TakeThisOut@planetearth.com> wrote in message
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  > > Hi, I'm looking for some websites that have dock building infomation,
tips,
  > > advice, etc. I am especially looking for information on the best way to
  > > build a crib for the dock.
( snip )
 > What is a crib? (other than a rock/sports star's house)

A crib is a rectangle of wooden beams that is filled with rock and boulders
and it forms the base for a walkway to a dock and they are sunk and filled
with the rocks to form the base for the decks of the piers. Most that I
have seen are bolted together to form the crib. Sometimes the nailed
together cribs will not withstand the force of ice flows.

James D. Carter, Port Captain, GLCC
"The Boat"
Bayfield<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Jim Thompson1

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:29 pm
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 > A crib is a rectangle of wooden beams that is filled with rock and boulders
 > and it forms the base for a walkway to a dock and they are sunk and filled
 > with the rocks to form the base for the decks of the piers. Most that I
 > have seen are bolted together to form the crib. Sometimes the nailed
 > together cribs will not withstand the force of ice flows.
 >
 >
Thanks not commonly used on private lakes around here. Sounds like a lot
of work!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Tom Ruta

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 4:45 am
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On 16 Mar 2004 15:29:48 -0800, jim.thompson.TakeThisOut@lagosantafe.com (Jim
Thompson) wrote:

  >> A crib is a rectangle of wooden beams that is filled with rock and boulders
  >> and it forms the base for a walkway to a dock and they are sunk and filled
  >> with the rocks to form the base for the decks of the piers. Most that I
  >> have seen are bolted together to form the crib. Sometimes the nailed
  >> together cribs will not withstand the force of ice flows.
  >>
  >>
 >Thanks not commonly used on private lakes around here. Sounds like a lot
 >of work!

You have pack ice? If not then no cribbing needed. And even then,
I've seen ice take out massive cribbing.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Mr Mrs Bailey

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:40 am
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If your lake isn't to big then a dock with a crib will last a long time. It
requires the least amount of maintenance and the highest amount of
stability. Roll in docks are the easiest solution to ice flow damage, but
they have limited application. Floating dock are a lot of work in the
spring and fall, but if taken care of will last the longest. There is a
company around here (Toronto, Ont) that builds all aluminium roll in docks
that two people can easily roll in. I would expect that this is an
expensive solution. Mind you, depending on you situation, building three or
four cribs can be a lot of work. I helped my cousin put in a dock at the
cottage that was four cribs and the water depth off the two deepest cribs
was 12' deep. We it took us two weekends just to build and fill the cribs.
Nice U shaped dock when we were done, but it sure cut into our ski time.

Give us some information: water depth at the end of the dock? Length and
Width of your dock? Size of your lake? Changes in water depth over the
year?

Drew

"Tom Ruta" <rutat.RemoveThis@cadvision.com> wrote in message
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 > On 16 Mar 2004 15:29:48 -0800, jim.thompson.RemoveThis@lagosantafe.com (Jim
 > Thompson) wrote:
 >
   > >> A crib is a rectangle of wooden beams that is filled with rock and
boulders
   > >> and it forms the base for a walkway to a dock and they are sunk and
filled
   > >> with the rocks to form the base for the decks of the piers. Most that
I
   > >> have seen are bolted together to form the crib. Sometimes the nailed
   > >> together cribs will not withstand the force of ice flows.
   > >>
   > >>
  > >Thanks not commonly used on private lakes around here. Sounds like a lot
  > >of work!
 >
 > You have pack ice? If not then no cribbing needed. And even then,
 > I've seen ice take out massive cribbing.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 2:16 pm
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 >
 > You have pack ice?

Just in the margarita's!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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