Digital photography & boating

Don White wrote:
 > "Harry Krause" <piedtypecase.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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  >> Who is using what these days if you are into digital photography while
  >> on the boat?
  >>
  >> Cameras, lenses, image "processing" software, printers, paper?
  >>
  >> I've switched almost entirely from film to digital, and am still working
  >> my way through the various software suites to find the one I like
  >> (translation: does what I want-whatever that is at the moment-without
  >> having to read 300 pages into the manual).
  >>
  >> Anyone using lens filters out on the water to deepen, darken, lighten
  >> skies and water?
  >>
  >> If you're using a digital SLR, what's your favorite lens?
  >>
  >> Just to get the ball rolling here.
  >>
 >
 > I've been holding back to see if these new fangled contraptions last. I
 > still use my Minolta SRT200 SLR 35mm camera but will probably change over
 > by Christmas. Just waiting for a 'super deal' to pop up. What I really want
 > is a combination good quality movie camera that takes stills comparable to a
 > 4 or 5 megapixel digital. I'd probably go with the mini DV format.
 > I hear the mini DVD's aren't always compatable with your DVD player for TV
 > showings.
 >
 >

I switched to digital and in fact recently sold off my film SLR. My
wife, though, prefers a small film camera she can tuck in her purse when
she travels.

I've never gotten involved in home movies or videos. I figured it was
ocmplicated enought holding and focusing a camera for one steady shot!

I'm still experimenting to find the "right" digital software package.
I've been playing around a little with the trial version of Adobe's
Photoshop CS, but man, it is complicated, but it is one of the few that
reads the "raw" images my digital camera outputs.






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Still shooting film here. I need five different lenses for my work, some as
short as 19mm for shooting interior photos. Most digital cameras stress *zoom*
imaging.
I don't ned a zoom, I can always put on a longer lens.

I did find one outfit that would offer the variety of lenses required. $3500.
If I didn't already have a nice camera, I'd spring for it- but that's a lot to
pay simply to avoid film development costs and duplicate what I've already got
with a newer technology.
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Gould 0738 wrote:
 > Still shooting film here. I need five different lenses for my work, some as
 > short as 19mm for shooting interior photos. Most digital cameras stress *zoom*
 > imaging.
 > I don't ned a zoom, I can always put on a longer lens.

Well, you aren't really going to find a wide angle of that focal length
suitable with most digital SLRs, unless you find one where electronics
(the ccd) don't hang a magnification on the lens. I see your point.


 >
 > I did find one outfit that would offer the variety of lenses required. $3500.
 > If I didn't already have a nice camera, I'd spring for it- but that's a lot to
 > pay simply to avoid film development costs and duplicate what I've already got
 > with a newer technology.

While digital SLR technology is moving along, and really good cameras
are getting much cheaper (and more expensive at the upper end of the SLR
scale), good quality lenses are not cheap and won't become so. The lens
is still physics and glass, not electronics.





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Harry Krause wrote:
 > Gould 0738 wrote:
  >> Still shooting film here. I need five different lenses for my work, some as
  >> short as 19mm for shooting interior photos. Most digital cameras stress *zoom*
  >> imaging.
  >> I don't ned a zoom, I can always put on a longer lens.


Forgot...another reason to go digital. With digital "negs" and some
decent software, you can much more easily take care of "problems" in
your shots without having to scan a real negative or slide (and thus
lose a generation of sharpness). Take a nice inside shot and there's a
damned wastebasket you can't crop out? Make it disappear digitally!





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son of Howdy Doody and Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either
of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 08:40:08 -0400, Harry Krause
<piedtypecase.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

 >Who is using what these days if you are into digital photography while
 >on the boat?
 >
 >Cameras, lenses, image "processing" software, printers, paper?
 >
 >I've switched almost entirely from film to digital, and am still working
 >my way through the various software suites to find the one I like
 >(translation: does what I want-whatever that is at the moment-without
 >having to read 300 pages into the manual).
 >
 >Anyone using lens filters out on the water to deepen, darken, lighten
 >skies and water?
 >
 >If you're using a digital SLR, what's your favorite lens?
 >
 >Just to get the ball rolling here.

Both actually. I have a restored F1 35 mm that a photographer at my
Dad's newspaper gave me when I was discharged from the service. It
has a full set of lenses including a massive 600mm Tele. I prefer the
35 mm format with Fuji film of differing speeds for most work - it's
fairly easy to have pictures put into hi-res digital format when they
are processed - I got out the personal processing deal a long time ago
- it's easier to have a lab do it then play with the digital images.

As to lenses, most of the work I do is with a standard 50 mm, but I am
partial to a 60/180 telephoto a lot.

As to digital, I'm not sold on the digital SLR format yet. I've seen
some good work done with digital SLRs by competant photographers, but
there is nothing like good paper and a real lens to capture a picture.
I have two Olympus digital cameras - a C-500 and a little point and
shoot 1.3 megapixel thingy that works really well.

As to software, I noticed a little on down that you used the trial
version of Adobe - it's a PITA and I don't like it. I have used,
since the begining lo those many years ago and it was version .8, is
Paint Shop Pro - now up to Version 8. It's not intuitive, I'll give
you that, but the results are amazing once you get used to it. And
it's much easier to learn than Adobe.

Later,

Tom
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

  >>If you're using a digital SLR, what's your favorite lens?
  >>
  >>Just to get the ball rolling here.
 >
 > Both actually. I have a restored F1 35 mm that a photographer at my
 > Dad's newspaper gave me when I was discharged from the service. It
 > has a full set of lenses including a massive 600mm Tele. I prefer the
 > 35 mm format with Fuji film of differing speeds for most work - it's
 > fairly easy to have pictures put into hi-res digital format when they
 > are processed - I got out the personal processing deal a long time ago
 > - it's easier to have a lab do it then play with the digital images.


Hot damn! I remember the F. It was a fine camera. Still is. I used one
in the early 1960s to defend myself from a couple of bozo klowns in
Bogalusa. Borrowed it from the school photo lab. Had a wide drab green
web strap. Used the strap to swing the camera and smack upside the head
a nice fellow who wanted to beat up the student driver of our car
because...because...because...because he was black. Put a small dent in
the chrome trim, but did not damage the camera.


 >
 > As to lenses, most of the work I do is with a standard 50 mm, but I am
 > partial to a 60/180 telephoto a lot.


You ever encounter the 180 f2.5? What a chunka glass!

 >
 > As to digital, I'm not sold on the digital SLR format yet. I've seen
 > some good work done with digital SLRs by competant photographers, but
 > there is nothing like good paper and a real lens to capture a picture.
 > I have two Olympus digital cameras - a C-500 and a little point and
 > shoot 1.3 megapixel thingy that works really well.
 >
 > As to software, I noticed a little on down that you used the trial
 > version of Adobe - it's a PITA and I don't like it. I have used,
 > since the begining lo those many years ago and it was version .8, is
 > Paint Shop Pro - now up to Version 8. It's not intuitive, I'll give
 > you that, but the results are amazing once you get used to it. And
 > it's much easier to learn than Adobe.
 >
 > Later,
 >
 > Tom
 >

I messed with PSP for a couple of weeks..the newer one that includes
ability to read Nikon digital NEFs. It's a good program. But so far, I
think I like Adobe better.


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son of Howdy Doody and Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either
of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:20:42 -0400, Harry Krause
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 >Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
 >
   >>>If you're using a digital SLR, what's your favorite lens?
   >>>
   >>>Just to get the ball rolling here.
  >>
  >> Both actually. I have a restored F1 35 mm that a photographer at my
  >> Dad's newspaper gave me when I was discharged from the service. It
  >> has a full set of lenses including a massive 600mm Tele. I prefer the
  >> 35 mm format with Fuji film of differing speeds for most work - it's
  >> fairly easy to have pictures put into hi-res digital format when they
  >> are processed - I got out the personal processing deal a long time ago
  >> - it's easier to have a lab do it then play with the digital images.
 >
 >
 >Hot damn! I remember the F. It was a fine camera. Still is. I used one
 >in the early 1960s to defend myself from a couple of bozo klowns in
 >Bogalusa. Borrowed it from the school photo lab. Had a wide drab green
 >web strap. Used the strap to swing the camera and smack upside the head
 >a nice fellow who wanted to beat up the student driver of our car
 >because...because...because...because he was black. Put a small dent in
 >the chrome trim, but did not damage the camera.

I don't know if you remember back that far, but the Boston Hearld
American won a Pulitzer for new photo in the late '60s of a little
girl falling after being released by her mother on a burning fire
escape and the fire fighters waiting to catch her?

This camera took that picture.

  >> As to lenses, most of the work I do is with a standard 50 mm, but I am
  >> partial to a 60/180 telephoto a lot.
 >
 >
 >You ever encounter the 180 f2.5? What a chunka glass!
 >
  >>
  >> As to digital, I'm not sold on the digital SLR format yet. I've seen
  >> some good work done with digital SLRs by competant photographers, but
  >> there is nothing like good paper and a real lens to capture a picture.
  >> I have two Olympus digital cameras - a C-500 and a little point and
  >> shoot 1.3 megapixel thingy that works really well.
  >>
  >> As to software, I noticed a little on down that you used the trial
  >> version of Adobe - it's a PITA and I don't like it. I have used,
  >> since the begining lo those many years ago and it was version .8, is
  >> Paint Shop Pro - now up to Version 8. It's not intuitive, I'll give
  >> you that, but the results are amazing once you get used to it. And
  >> it's much easier to learn than Adobe.
 >
 >I messed with PSP for a couple of weeks..the newer one that includes
 >ability to read Nikon digital NEFs. It's a good program. But so far, I
 >think I like Adobe better.

I have this argument all the time with friends and relatives.

To each their own. :>)

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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:20:42 -0400, Harry Krause
<piedtypecase RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

 >You ever encounter the 180 f2.5? What a chunka glass!

Yes and even bigger. I can't remeber the size, but it was used to
take 35 mm pictures of stars - damn lens had two tri-pods to hold it
in place.


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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
 > On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:20:42 -0400, Harry Krause
 > <piedtypecase.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
 >
  >>You ever encounter the 180 f2.5? What a chunka glass!
 >
 > Yes and even bigger. I can't remeber the size, but it was used to
 > take 35 mm pictures of stars - damn lens had two tri-pods to hold it
 > in place.
 >
 >
 > Later,
 >
 > Tom


There was a fellow named Rich Clarkson who some decades ago was the
absolutely best sports photog around...he worked the mid-west, mostly
Big 8 and pro, and he was the only one I ever met who could successfully
hand-hold the 180 INDOORS at b-ball and track and field events. Great
photographer.



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son of Howdy Doody and Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either
of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

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Harry, I use a Nikon D-100 exclusively now. I have a Nikon N-90 35mm SLR
as backup, as they both use the same AF lenses. My favorite lens is my 17
to 35mm zoom. It's wide enough to give you a bit of wide angle with the
digital camera and still work as a "Normal" lens. I use an Omega circular
polarizer for shots around water and always keep sky/UV filters on all my
lenses. I carry a 17-35, 28-70 and a 70-200 which I seldom use with the
digital All the lenses are Sigma APO HSM f2.8's except for the 17-35 which
is an f2.8-f4. I chose Sigma lenses after reading several reviews,
and just couldn't afford real Nikon lenses. I've had the D-100 for over a
year and love it. My photo software is a full version of Photoshop 7.0,
although I'm about ready to upgrade to Photoshop CE.


Harry Krause <piedtypecase.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in news:2r5d4aF16jph0U1@uni-
berlin.de:

 > Who is using what these days if you are into digital photography while
 > on the boat?
 >
 > Cameras, lenses, image "processing" software, printers, paper?
 >
 > I've switched almost entirely from film to digital, and am still working
 > my way through the various software suites to find the one I like
 > (translation: does what I want-whatever that is at the moment-without
 > having to read 300 pages into the manual).
 >
 > Anyone using lens filters out on the water to deepen, darken, lighten
 > skies and water?
 >
 > If you're using a digital SLR, what's your favorite lens?
 >
 > Just to get the ball rolling here.
 >
 >
 >
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W6JCW Bob wrote:
 > Harry, I use a Nikon D-100 exclusively now. I have a Nikon N-90 35mm SLR
 > as backup, as they both use the same AF lenses. My favorite lens is my 17
 > to 35mm zoom. It's wide enough to give you a bit of wide angle with the
 > digital camera and still work as a "Normal" lens. I use an Omega circular
 > polarizer for shots around water and always keep sky/UV filters on all my
 > lenses. I carry a 17-35, 28-70 and a 70-200 which I seldom use with the
 > digital All the lenses are Sigma APO HSM f2.8's except for the 17-35 which
 > is an f2.8-f4. I chose Sigma lenses after reading several reviews,
 > and just couldn't afford real Nikon lenses. I've had the D-100 for over a
 > year and love it. My photo software is a full version of Photoshop 7.0,
 > although I'm about ready to upgrade to Photoshop CE.
 >
 >
 > Harry Krause <piedtypecase DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in news:2r5d4aF16jph0U1@uni-
 > berlin.de:
 >
  >> Who is using what these days if you are into digital photography while
  >> on the boat?
 >


Yeah! I have a D100 and a D70 for backup...but...I like the D70 better.
In fact, I might trade the D100 in on some different gear. I'm looking
at the 60 mm macro lens; it'll be a 90 mm on the D70 and that's pretty
close to perfect for the "head shot" portraits I do for newsletters and
suchlike. I've also got the 70-200 zoom and the zoome that came with the
D70, plus a 105 2.5, which used to be one of my favorites, but with
digital is a little too long for portraits.

Sigman makes fine lenses.

I'm close to biting the bullet and buying PS CS. I've been messing with
the free trial for a while and though the software really is
complicated, it does lots of stuff more smoothly than some of the other
packages I've seen.

I'll look into that Omega polarizer...thanks for the tip.



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son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

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W6JCW Bob wrote:
 > Harry, I use a Nikon D-100 exclusively now. I have a Nikon N-90 35mm SLR
 > as backup, as they both use the same AF lenses. My favorite lens is my 17
 > to 35mm zoom. It's wide enough to give you a bit of wide angle with the
 > digital camera and still work as a "Normal" lens. I use an Omega circular
 > polarizer for shots around water and always keep sky/UV filters on all my
 > lenses. I carry a 17-35, 28-70 and a 70-200 which I seldom use with the
 > digital All the lenses are Sigma APO HSM f2.8's except for the 17-35 which
 > is an f2.8-f4. I chose Sigma lenses after reading several reviews,
 > and just couldn't afford real Nikon lenses. I've had the D-100 for over a
 > year and love it. My photo software is a full version of Photoshop 7.0,
 > although I'm about ready to upgrade to Photoshop CE.
 >
 >
 > Harry Krause <piedtypecase.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in news:2r5d4aF16jph0U1@uni-
 > berlin.de:
 >
 >
  >>Who is using what these days if you are into digital photography while
  >>on the boat?
  >>
  >>Cameras, lenses, image "processing" software, printers, paper?
  >>
  >>I've switched almost entirely from film to digital, and am still working
  >>my way through the various software suites to find the one I like
  >>(translation: does what I want-whatever that is at the moment-without
  >>having to read 300 pages into the manual).
  >>
  >>Anyone using lens filters out on the water to deepen, darken, lighten
  >>skies and water?
  >>
  >>If you're using a digital SLR, what's your favorite lens?
  >>
  >>Just to get the ball rolling here.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
 >
 >

If you like the Sigma lenses, you should check out the
Sigma digital SLR with the Foveon image sensor. don't
be fooled by it's "modest" pixel count.
it generates real RGB at *each* pixel - none of the
spatial artifacts you get with the usual filter group
structure. the effective resolution is at least 6x
the raw pixel count - comparing a Foveon with other
imaging arrays.

I believe Sigma is on their second generation (at least)
of the body - tweaks from field use, etc, etc.

no promises, but it's worth a looky

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My wife uses a small camera for traveling and after her Olympus died in 14
months and the repair charge is $13 less than a new camera and only 1/2 the
warrantee. I got her a Nikon Coolpix 2500. 2M pixel camera that takes
great pictures for the scrapbook. 2MP is all you need for 4x6 prints.
Looking for a waterproof camera for a Galapago's and Amazon trip next year.
Sony DSC-60u is good to 5' but no zoom. Looking at the Pentax optio 43 now.
Bill

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 > Don White wrote:
  > > "Harry Krause" <piedtypecase.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
  > > news:2r5d4aF16jph0U1@uni-berlin.de...
   > >> Who is using what these days if you are into digital photography while
   > >> on the boat?
   > >>
   > >> Cameras, lenses, image "processing" software, printers, paper?
   > >>
   > >> I've switched almost entirely from film to digital, and am still
working
   > >> my way through the various software suites to find the one I like
   > >> (translation: does what I want-whatever that is at the moment-without
   > >> having to read 300 pages into the manual).
   > >>
   > >> Anyone using lens filters out on the water to deepen, darken, lighten
   > >> skies and water?
   > >>
   > >> If you're using a digital SLR, what's your favorite lens?
   > >>
   > >> Just to get the ball rolling here.
   > >>
  > >
  > > I've been holding back to see if these new fangled contraptions last. I
  > > still use my Minolta SRT200 SLR 35mm camera but will probably change
over
  > > by Christmas. Just waiting for a 'super deal' to pop up. What I really
want
  > > is a combination good quality movie camera that takes stills comparable
to a
  > > 4 or 5 megapixel digital. I'd probably go with the mini DV format.
  > > I hear the mini DVD's aren't always compatable with your DVD player for
TV
  > > showings.
  > >
  > >
 >
 > I switched to digital and in fact recently sold off my film SLR. My
 > wife, though, prefers a small film camera she can tuck in her purse when
 > she travels.
 >
 > I've never gotten involved in home movies or videos. I figured it was
 > ocmplicated enought holding and focusing a camera for one steady shot!
 >
 > I'm still experimenting to find the "right" digital software package.
 > I've been playing around a little with the trial version of Adobe's
 > Photoshop CS, but man, it is complicated, but it is one of the few that
 > reads the "raw" images my digital camera outputs.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > --
 > We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
 > son of Howdy Doody and Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either
 > of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
 > incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a
pariah.
 >
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