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Alan Wallace

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 3:04 pm
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Hello Folks, our club is intending in putting in some channel marker and
hazard buoys. The commercial offerings we have found are quite expensive so
we thought that there might be something out there that someone or some
group has designed and built and that they would be willing to share their
experience and knowledge with us. If we can make something that is less
expensive then we can put out more buoys.
We were thinking of 8" white plastic pipe. cut off in 3' sections, capped
and filled with expanding foam. Painted the appropriate colors etc and
anchored with the appropriate weight of ballast and chain/cable.
However I'm sure that others have come up with "better" designs in the past.

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Charles T. Low1

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 3:04 pm
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I don't know if private organizations are allowed to put out
"non-conforming" bouys or not. People have been known to consult with the
Coast Guard for advice - and perhaps permission - about this. Certainly, if
you're on any kind of recognized waterway (where, by the way?), you should
let someone know so it can go in "Advice to Mariners" and be incorporated in
future chart updates.

You do say "painted the appropriate colours," so that would be "conforming,"
it seems. (And anyway, I have seen private bouys that did not conform, now
that I think of it, and have been in use that way for years. This was at a
private resort.)

OTOH, asking for permission often leads to a long, complicated bureaucratic
struggle. Whether it would in this case I do not know. Sometimes just doing
something and then "advising" the authorities later works better. But
sometimes it doesn't!

How expensive are the commercial bouys?

I will be interested to hear how this goes.

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"Alan Wallace" <awallace.RemoveThis@crrstv.net> wrote in message
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 > Hello Folks, our club is intending in putting in some channel marker and
 > hazard buoys. The commercial offerings we have found are quite expensive
so
 > we thought that there might be something out there that someone or some
 > group has designed and built and that they would be willing to share their
 > experience and knowledge with us. If we can make something that is less
 > expensive then we can put out more buoys.
 > We were thinking of 8" white plastic pipe. cut off in 3' sections, capped
 > and filled with expanding foam. Painted the appropriate colors etc and
 > anchored with the appropriate weight of ballast and chain/cable.
 > However I'm sure that others have come up with "better" designs in the
past.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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Drew Dalgleish

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 6:27 pm
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On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 12:04:15 GMT, "Alan Wallace" <awallace.DeleteThis@crrstv.net>
wrote:

 >Hello Folks, our club is intending in putting in some channel marker and
 >hazard buoys. The commercial offerings we have found are quite expensive so
 >we thought that there might be something out there that someone or some
 >group has designed and built and that they would be willing to share their
 >experience and knowledge with us. If we can make something that is less
 >expensive then we can put out more buoys.
 >We were thinking of 8" white plastic pipe. cut off in 3' sections, capped
 >and filled with expanding foam. Painted the appropriate colors etc and
 >anchored with the appropriate weight of ballast and chain/cable.
 >However I'm sure that others have come up with "better" designs in the past.
 >
 >
some sand to weigh down one end so it floats vertically and red or
green reflective tape around the top. I can't imagine paint sticking
to plastic for very long. At our lake the popular cheap solution is
old bleach bottles<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Terry Spragg4

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 7:49 pm
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Drew Dalgleish wrote:
 > On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 12:04:15 GMT, "Alan Wallace" <awallace RemoveThis @crrstv.net>
 > wrote:
 >
 >
  >>Hello Folks, our club is intending in putting in some channel marker and
  >>hazard buoys. The commercial offerings we have found are quite expensive so
  >>we thought that there might be something out there that someone or some
  >>group has designed and built and that they would be willing to share their
  >>experience and knowledge with us. If we can make something that is less
  >>expensive then we can put out more buoys.
  >>We were thinking of 8" white plastic pipe. cut off in 3' sections, capped
  >>and filled with expanding foam. Painted the appropriate colors etc and
  >>anchored with the appropriate weight of ballast and chain/cable.
  >>However I'm sure that others have come up with "better" designs in the past.
  >>
  >>
 >
 > some sand to weigh down one end so it floats vertically and red or
 > green reflective tape around the top. I can't imagine paint sticking
 > to plastic for very long. At our lake the popular cheap solution is
 > old bleach bottles

Clear pop bottles painted on the inside with non fade UV resitant
paint, a quality string, a few links of chain to attract the bouy to
an area above the anchor and a cinder block is cheap, recoverable
before ice time, and inexpensively replaced by someone with a depth
sounds.

If one drifts, and some strusting soul crashes, burns, dies and
sinks, who will be liable?

The floats are not a problem. The idiots who will blame you for
their own stupidity will be the rweal problem.

Around here, local fisherment mark their secret passages with
trimmed trees driven into the bottom, leaving only a few branches at
the top for visibility. They are renewed each year. Seems a couple
of bent aluminium pie plates strung up in the boughs might show up
on radar, and a little spray paint seems positively extravagant,
given that they are private marks, and those using them should know
something about the local charts.

Nobody knows who sets these marks, as they do it in secret, like the
crop circle boys.

Would the law be liable if they tore them out?

Good luck.

Terry K<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Sparky1

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 6:36 am
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Our lake association (inland lake, no channels to other lakes) has recently
begun to replace the plethura of old propane tanks and bleach bottles with
orange water ski course markers (12" round plastic balls with a rope eye).
These are definitely much more visible in almost any condition (except night
time). They also provide consistancy when out cruising our lake. If you see
one of these, you know it was put there by the lake association and you
trust it to be accurate. Our lake association carries insurance against
potential law suits.

A good addition would be to add some sort of reflective taping to the ball
to aid in night time navigation - even if it has to be replaced yearly.

We're on our 3rd year with these, increasing the number each year, and have
only had positive response.

Good luck!




"Alan Wallace" <awallace DeleteThis @crrstv.net> wrote in message
news:3LDwc.54356$Np3.2405579@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
 > Hello Folks, our club is intending in putting in some channel marker and
 > hazard buoys. The commercial offerings we have found are quite expensive
so
 > we thought that there might be something out there that someone or some
 > group has designed and built and that they would be willing to share their
 > experience and knowledge with us. If we can make something that is less
 > expensive then we can put out more buoys.
 > We were thinking of 8" white plastic pipe. cut off in 3' sections, capped
 > and filled with expanding foam. Painted the appropriate colors etc and
 > anchored with the appropriate weight of ballast and chain/cable.
 > However I'm sure that others have come up with "better" designs in the
past.
 >
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A Sailor

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 8:09 pm
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 03:36:41 GMT, "Sparky" <nomail DeleteThis @nomail.com> wrote:
 >orange water ski course markers (12" round plastic balls with a rope eye).
 >These are definitely much more visible in almost any condition (except night
 >time). They also provide consistancy when out cruising our lake. If you see
 >one of these, you know it was put there by the lake association and you
 >trust it to be accurate. Our lake association carries insurance against
 >potential law suits.
 >
 >A good addition would be to add some sort of reflective taping to the ball
 >to aid in night time navigation - even if it has to be replaced yearly.

Which side do you keep an orange ball on? (Of course, if it's a lake wich way is
downbound?) Seriously, sounds like a good marker. Round inflateable bumpers make
a decent marker too. I've seen em in orange as well as white.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Don White

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 2:00 am
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I suppose little 'cardinal buoys' would be out of the question. With the
colour scheme you'd know which side the danger is on...assuming you carry a
compass.
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